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[yurinka]

But this is not about only the home console. This ranking is about home console plus hybrid console plus portable console. It is about all hardware by a console manufacturer. We knew someone was going to say, "but what about just home consoles". That was to be expected. But there are some Nintendo Home consoles that's not included in this list because they were released either in the first generation or the second generation. Nintendo has released consoles in all generations. I think that all Nintendo hardware should be included, but for some reason this list starts with the NES and not the color TV game 15.

The tweet says 'home console'. Not home console plus 'hybrid' plus portables.

I forgot the about the Color TV series. Nintendo shared sales numbers, but a book mentioned 3M (later wikipedia and other book quoted that number), I'll add it.

 

[yurinka]

The tears hit his butt with force.

I just shared some factual, objective data.

If it buthurts you or make you salty because doesn't fit your fanboy fantasies isn't my issue.

 

[adamsapple]

I just shared some factual, objective data.

PS1 102.49M
PS2 160.63M
PS3 88.15M
PS4 117.2M
PS5 80.2M
PSP 82.5M
Vita: 17M

Total: 648.17

648.17 < 860.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

The power of exclusives

The power of starting 11 years earlier.

 

[Ridicululzz]

Sony could've easily eclipsed this number if not for the covid shortages

 

[Ebrietas]

Critical success, commercial success, influence are all objective, measurable metrics

Nintendo ranks ahead of everyone else on all of those

How is "influence" measured or counted? Do you get an influence "number" like you would with units sold? No, of course not. It's a subjective assessment. Who is no. 2, 3, 4, etc. on the influence ranking? Should be easy to determine that if it's objective, no harder than measuring someone's weight.

"Communication and even hardware, place in pop culture"...again subjective nonsense. Means whatever the heck he wants it to mean.

Nintendo has sold the most amount of console hardware units. Just like Sony has sold the most amount of console software units. Those are the only objective facts. Anything else is fanboy chest thumping.

 

[Aldric]

How is "influence" measured or counted? Do you get an influence "number" like you would with units sold? No, of course not. It's a subjective assessment. Who is no. 2, 3, 4, etc. on the influence ranking? Should be easy to determine that if it's objective, no harder than measuring someone's weight.

It's pretty easy to determine the number of genres Nintendo have essentially codified if you know anything about videogames. Platformers, Metroid"vania", platform fighters, kart racers, 3D games as a whole with OoT and Mario 64. You could also cite the huge number of major industry figures like Miyazaki, Dan Houser, Nomura, Yoko Taro, the Team Cherry guys or more recently the guy responsible for last year's GOTY saying how they took inspiration from Nintendo and their games, and that list is far from being exhaustive. As for the n°2 if that's a serious question that'd probably be Capcom. Huge impact on the fighting game genre, survival horror, visual novels, the monster hunting arpg subgenre and the entire over the shoulder 3D action adventure template with RE4.

"Communication and even hardware, place in pop culture"...again subjective nonsense. Means whatever the heck he wants it to mean.

Oh my bad you didn't understand what I mean, I should have been more explicit I forgot people who seethe about Nintendo tend to be a bit slow.

Communication obviously refered to the Nintendo Direct format and how everyone now has their own version of that style of presentation pioneered by Nintendo. Hardware is pretty explicit with plenty of examples including the two gen 7 HD consoles scrambling to get motion controls after the Wii was a massive hit with Kinect and PS Move or more recently Sony working on a new handheld to try to get some of that Switch marketshare and place in pop culture is also pretty obvious, Mario just had a movie that ended up being the second highest grossing animated picture in history and Pokemon is one of the most lucrative multimedia franchise in the world, above the likes of Harry Potter or Marvel.

Again you're free to try and argue other videogame devs/publishers are on the same level or higher than Nintendo on all those fronts at the same time. Good luck.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Sony could've easily eclipsed this number if not for the covid shortages

 

[ecosse_011172]

The power of starting 11 years earlier.

 

[LordOcidax]

The power of starting 11 years earlier.

Do you think that Sony is going sell 212 million of consoles in the next 11 years? . Serious question.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Do you think that Sony is going sell 212 million of consoles in the next 11 years? . Serious question.

 

[Ebrietas]

It's pretty easy to determine the number of genres Nintendo have essentially codified if you know anything about videogames. Platformers, Metroid"vania", platform fighters, kart racers, 3D games as a whole with OoT and Mario 64. You could also cite the huge number of major industry figures like Miyazaki, Dan Houser, Nomura, Yoko Taro, the Team Cherry guys or more recently the guy responsible for last year's GOTY saying how they took inspiration from Nintendo and their games, and that list is far from being exhaustive. As for the n°2 if that's a serious question that'd probably be Capcom. Huge impact on the fighting game genre, survival horror, visual novels, the monster hunting arpg subgenre and the entire over the shoulder 3D action adventure template with RE4.


Oh my bad you didn't understand what I mean, I should have been more explicit I forgot people who seethe about Nintendo tend to be a bit slow.

Communication obviously refered to the Nintendo Direct format and how everyone now has their own version of that style of presentation pioneered by Nintendo. Hardware is pretty explicit with plenty of examples including the two gen 7 HD consoles scrambling to get motion controls after the Wii was a massive hit with Kinect and PS Move or more recently Sony working on a new handheld to try to get some of that Switch marketshare and place in pop culture is also pretty obvious, Mario just had a movie that ended up being the second highest grossing animated picture in history and Pokemon is one of the most lucrative multimedia franchise in the world, above the likes of Harry Potter or Marvel.

Again you're free to try and argue other videogame devs/publishers are on the same level or higher than Nintendo on all those fronts at the same time. Good luck.

Lol, omg dude I'm not arguing against your opinions. I'm simply telling you that they are nothing more than opinions. Not objective facts. Feel free to think Nintendo is the biggest, strongest, fastest, smartest, hottest, most amazing entity who everyone and everything in the entire multiverse owes their existence to.

And it's telling that you say Capcom is probably no. 2 Why is it "probably"? If this is some objective science you are practicing you should know exactly who is no. 2, 3, 4, etc.

Anyway, not going to waste any more time on this. Have a nice day.

 

[Aldric]

Didn't even try, very disappointing.

 

[iHaunter]

Those are amazing numbers and make PS2's best-selling console record even more impressive.

I don't think anything will beat the PS2.

 

[Crm114]

Unfortunately, GigaBowser is still unavailable, so I have to cover for him again:

OMG YES YES YES NINTENDO NUMBA ONE 4EVA they sell 860 MILLION HARDWARE and 5.9 BILLION GAMES bros this is INSANE like mario himself go knock on every door and sell cartridge LOL nintendo best console brand in da WHOLE WORLD playstation?? xbox?? who?? i only know mushroom kingdom

Nintendo make my childhood, my adulthood, my futurehood i breath zelda, i dream mario kart, i wake up smash bros… BIG W company forever

Nice try but not dyslexic or retarded enough

 

[reinking]

Congrats to Nintendo. It's a great accomplishment. I'm not sure why some people are being buttheads on either side of the conversation.

edited because....

 

[EverydayBeast]

I still remember playing Mario for the first time time

 

[j0hnnix]

When the man Gigabowser comes back he will make sure to bring this back to the top for the forum.

Congrats on Nintendo sticking to their guns and out living Sega and still keeping strong.

 

[Danjin44]

People get so salty every time there is a news about Nintendo is doing well.

They simply can't just move on.

 

[pulicat]

Those are amazing numbers and make PS2's best-selling console record even more impressive.

PS2 numbers aren't really impressive when most of its units were sold at discounted price (~$149 - $99) and barely making any profits despite record numbers hardware sales.

Top 5 most profitable consoles of all time
1. Nintendo Switch - $25 billion
2. Playstation 5 - $13 billion
3. Nintendo Wii - $11 billion
4. Nintendo DS - $10 billion
5. Playstation 4 - $9 billion

Playstation 2 - $2 billion

 

[Unknown?]

Holy shit those are big numbers.

As big as your hard on?

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

VirtuaBoy comeback any day now.

Congrats to Nintendo, awesome games and consoles. They stayed/stay true to just making great games, always.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

Nintendo are the GOATs. No, not everything they do is fantastic, but the vast majority of games and hardware released have been. Just ignore the Virtual Boy.

 

[Super Lemon Drop]

It's funny because video games have been my preferred and favorite form of entertainment for more than 40 years over TV, movies, music, books, etc.
Getting a NES for Christmas when I was a kid in the 80's is still one of my favorite life memories, especially of my late father. You could even say that I am passionate about video games and gaming.

I honestly cannot care less about sales numbers, no matter how "big" they are or who they are about. A corporation sold things. Congratulations? They did what they were supposed to do? I don't care about weekly sales, monthly sales, quarterly sales, annual sales, lifetime sales, software sales, hardware sales, peripheral sales.

And as for the world record, is it Guinness counting it? They became a meaningless joke quite some time ago when they sold out to remain relevant. People can literally do any dumbass thing now and make it a world record.

 

[Inanilmaz]

When the man Gigabowser comes back he will make sure to bring this back to the top for the forum.

Game over, bookmarked

 

[Celine]

Critical success, commercial success, influence are all objective, measurable metrics

Nintendo ranks ahead of everyone else on all of those

Nintendo is the most profitable console manufacturer in history.

 

[Celine]

The power of starting 11 years earlier.

Nah.

As March 1995 (PS1 was launched in December 1994 in Japan) NES + GB + SNES had sold in total 141.49 million units therefore since the introduction of the PlayStation brand of consoles Nintendo has sold about 100 million consoles more than what Sony did in the same timeframe.
The headstart in itself isn't the decisive factor why Nintendo is the console manufacturer which sold the most videogame systems (more than than PlayStation and Xbox combined).

PS2 numbers aren't really impressive when most of its units were sold at discounted price (~$149 - $99) and barely making any profits despite record numbers hardware sales.

PS2 number is impressive regardless of whatever objections you throw at it.
It has been the best selling console of all time for the last 15 years or so.

 

[MrJangles]

People get so salty every time there is a news about Nintendo is doing well.

They simply can't just move on.

Fuck them. They are the worst thing that has happened to gaming. Blow-in's who never played a game before 1995.

 

[PlayStaytion]

The real Mario is a real hero just like Iwata.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Nintendo are the GOATs. No, not everything they do is fantastic, but the vast majority of games and hardware released have been. Just ignore the Virtual Boy.

 

[Felessan]

Nintendo fans just find out another stupid reasons to congratulate themselves over nothing
The number of "Nin is the best" threads over irrelevant things show just how much they insecure

 

[ecosse_011172]

Nintendo fans just find out another stupid reasons to congratulate themselves over nothing
The number of "Nin is the best" threads over irrelevant things show just how much they insecure

Aren't you the guy who masturbates furiously to Playstation profit levels but doesn't care about games?

 

[ahtlas7]

Sorry Sega, looks like you lost.

 

[LordOcidax]

Aren't you the guy who masturbates furiously to Playstation profit levels but doesn't care about games?

 

[Felessan]

Aren't you the guy who masturbates furiously to Playstation profit levels but doesn't care about games?

I do care about games, just not about games for 5yo kids.

 

[ecosse_011172]

I do care about games, just not about games for 5yo kids.

Of course, you sound very mature.

 

[Amin_Parker]

I do care about games, just not about games for 5yo kids.

Is the legend of Zelda and Xenoblade and fire emblem and Metroid and Geist and eternal darkness and battalion wars games geared for five year-olds?

 

[Impotaku]

I do care about games, just not about games for 5yo kids.

No gta 6 for you then.

 

[Tobimacoss]

A rhombus, square, and rectangle are all quadrilaterals (four-sided shapes) with specific properties. A rhombus has four equal sides. A rectangle has four right angles. A square is a special case of both a rhombus and a rectangle, possessing both four equal sides and four right angles.

You forgot parallelograms. No Right Angles and two pairs of equal sides. (Michael Jackson slanted rectangles).

 

[Felessan]

Of course, you sound very mature.

Of course
If you are not idealistic when you are young you have no heart, and if you are not cynical when old, you have no brain

Is the legend of Zelda and Xenoblade and fire emblem and Metroid and Geist and eternal darkness and battalion wars games geared for five year-olds?

Zelda is for 10yo and Xenoblade and other young adult games have like 0.1% attach rate on Switch

No gta 6 for you then.

Don't play GTA

 

[LakeOf9]

Jesus Christ it feels like I stepped back on to 2005 GameFAQs

 

[PatientGamer]

Good for Ninty. Though have to bear in mind, they have an 11-year headstart on their nearest 'competitors'. Which is at least 2 generations ahead; so they should statistically speaking, always be ahead.

PS1 + PS2 sales alone spanks everything from Nintendo till the Wii.

The Switch is an absolute runaway success though, and essentially merges/divests their entire handheld offering; so no need for 2 SKUs there anymore; therefore sales for those systems will include both home console and handheld markets.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Of course
If you are not idealistic when you are young you have no heart, and if you are not cynical when old, you have no brain


Zelda is for 10yo and Xenoblade and other young adult games have like 0.1% attach rate on Switch


Don't play GTA

When is the age to talk utterly embarrassing shite but with an incomprehensible and misguided sense of superiority?
Just wondering..

 

[Kacho]

Jesus Christ it feels like I stepped back on to 2005 GameFAQs

First time you've encountered Felessan ? That is his specialty.

 

[Felessan]

When is the age to talk utterly embarrassing shite but with an incomprehensible and misguided sense of superiority?
Just wondering..

I don't know, what's your age?

It's completely valid opinion with completely reasonable points

Unlike jerking on Nintendo over some "record" that Nintendo holds for over 30 years - Nintendo "whole console brand, handheld included" was bestselling last year, 10 years ago or even before Playstation or Xbox came to market. Mostly due to handheld part (and switch is handheld too) where it had little competition for most of time.
And thus is my question - what exactly Nin fans celebrating here? Lost market share, questionable prospects, inability to attract big 3rd party games on platform or attract young adults players thoss they lost almost completely (0.1% attach rate is worse than kids game on playstation)?

 

[ecosse_011172]

I don't know, what's your age?

It's completely valid opinion with completely reasonable points

Unlike jerking on Nintendo over some "record" that Nintendo holds for over 30 years - Nintendo "whole console brand, handheld included" was bestselling last year, 10 years ago or even before Playstation or Xbox came to market. Mostly due to handheld part (and switch is handheld too) where it had little competition for most of time.
And thus is my question - what exactly Nin fans celebrating here? Lost market share, questionable prospects, inability to attract big 3rd party games on platform or attract young adults players thoss they lost almost completely (0.1% attach rate is worse than kids game on playstation)?

I think a lots of people here are having a laugh and good naturedly celebrating the achievements of the OGs that benefitted all of gaming.

You seem incapable of humour or lightheartedness as you're so incredibly serious about your love of a corporation.

Imagine not liking games but fanboying for the gaming wing of a multinational megacorp!

 

[yurinka]

PS1 102.49M
PS2 160.63M
PS3 88.15M
PS4 117.2M
PS5 80.2M
PSP 82.5M
Vita: 17M

Total: 648.17

648.17 < 860.

PSP and Vita aren't home consoles and same goes with Nintendo's portables. It's nonsensical to count them when talking about who sold more home consoles.

PS2 numbers aren't really impressive when most of its units were sold at discounted price (~$149 - $99) and barely making any profits despite record numbers hardware sales.

Top 5 most profitable consoles of all time
1. Nintendo Switch - $25 billion
2. Playstation 5 - $13 billion
3. Nintendo Wii - $11 billion
4. Nintendo DS - $10 billion
5. Playstation 4 - $9 billion

Playstation 2 - $2 billion

These are made out numbers, manufacturers never shown specific profits per console or portable. They instead posted profit numbers for the entire company, that overlapped generations and both home and portable consoles, plus also included numbers from outside their consoles.

And the PS2 numbers are impressive because it's the best selling console in the entire gaming history.

 

[adamsapple]

PSP and Vita aren't home consoles and same goes with Nintendo's portables. It's nonsensical to count them when talking about who sold more home consoles.

Ok? Add more caveats while you're at it. It's pointless to count consoles that don't begin with the letter P.

Nintendo's website says this:

To date, Nintendo has sold more than 5.9 billion video games and over 860 million hardware units globally

Which is true, they're talking about hardware units sold, they're not making arbitrary distinctions about if it's consoles or portables.

 

[yurinka]

Ok? Add more caveats while you're at it. It's pointless to count consoles that don't begin with the letter P.

Nintendo's website says this:



Which is true, they're talking about hardware units sold, they're not making arbitrary distinctions about if it's consoles or portables.

Nintendo says over 860 hardware units, which is correct and includes both home consoles and portables.

The tweet said this number makes Nintendo the best seller in home consoles, which is wrong. Because this number is portables+home consoles and not home consoles alone, and when looking at home console units only the one who sold more is Sony.

I think it's easy to understand even for a brainrot fanboy like you.

 

[adamsapple]

Nintendo says over 860 hardware units, which is correct and includes both home consoles and portables.

The tweet said this number makes them the best seller in home consoles, which is wrong. Because this number is portables+home consoles and not home consoles alone.

I think it's easy to understand even for a brainrot fanboy like you.

Damn man.

I'm beginning to see why everyone's calling you salty in this thread