Hot Coldman
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Best moment in the series.
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Best moment in the series.
oh come on don't you want them natureboxes
Yeah but thats because they didn't continue to play Watchdogs or Titanfall for weeks after release.
Basileus777
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I don't think think there is anything better for Jeff to advertise than anime.
Just shouting the whole time.
Antiwhippy
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If they actually deliver to australia the maybe!
Hot Coldman
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OK, so obviously I knew about the ninja being
, but... that scene with it and Snake... what?
I'm totally lost now. Completely forgot.
-------Olga
I'm totally lost now. Completely forgot.
funkystudent
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Didnt know Hale did the voice for E.E.
That lady has range!
That lady has range!
Yeah, her credits list is long as hell.
Bonkersville: Population Drew Scanlon and Hot Coldman
Fuck i can't fucking wait for metal gear scanlon!
funkystudent
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Helps she has been in the business since the 90's
Actually her wiki says she did her first video game in 94. Thats basically as long as video games have done serious VO.
SuperStiltzkin
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I actually liked Raiden in MGS2 and don't really like what they did with him in Revengeance. Though MGS4 is more to blame. Tossing him up to be the next cyborg ninja seems like such a cop-out in terms of character development. We never get to see anything that happens to him between MGS2 and MGS4. It's not like Snake between MGS1 and MGS2 where forming Philanthropy seemed like a logical evolution of his character. It's a choice he made from the lessons he learned in MGS1. Raiden just got turned into a cyborg ninja because Kojima wanted to stick it to all the people who hated him in MGS2. Platinum made it even worse by turning his Jack the Ripper nickname into a one of those crazy anime tryhard badass personas that awakens when he's pushed too far. I found it really off-putting for his character.
Hot Coldman
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I haven't played that game in 8 years. o_o
Well, I see your point, but whiny Raiden is... really whiny and irritating.
Like, it's going to turn out he has good (ish) reason to be, but still... he's way more fun later on
Hot Coldman
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The original MGS Rising was going to explore the whole deal with Raiden between MGS 2 and 4, but then they shit the bed and telling a post MGS4 story gave Platinum way more freedom to do what they do well, so eh. It all worked out for the best in the circumstances.
Besides, the only "between game" story that really needs telling is between 1 and 2. I wanna play as Snake and go blow up Metal Gears with Otacon. Fuck a nuanced story, just show me all that, before the Tanker.
Besides, the only "between game" story that really needs telling is between 1 and 2. I wanna play as Snake and go blow up Metal Gears with Otacon. Fuck a nuanced story, just show me all that, before the Tanker.
funkystudent
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I just put 2 and 2 together and realised MGS2 though it was good idea to combine a underwater section AND a escort mission.
Jesus.
Jesus.
Basileus777
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MSG Rising was way better than it should have been. Platinum even made the story compelling, you can't blame them.
No Kojima thought it was a terrible idea and he wants to make the player suffer, just like the Rose conversations are punishment for saving the game.
It's still bad regardless of the reason.
I'd play Kojima's Philanthropy Simulator 20XX.
SuperStiltzkin
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I'd say he has a good reason to whine from the very beginning. Everyone seems to know more than he does and Campbell is being tight lipped about a mission to save the freaking president. I think Quinton Flynn's delivery made some of his complaints sound whinier than intended. He has a much deeper voice in the Japanese version.
Revengeance Raiden might be a more fun character, but I don't even consider that Raiden and MGS2 Raiden to even be the same person. Revengeance is a great game, but it's just not a story nor character direction I'm interested in. Raiden had much closer interaction with the Patriots than most other MGS characters that it's kinda disappointing that he's relegated to a shallow ninja character. He's basically Alucard from Hellsing. And while some people might see that as a good thing, I can't fucking stand that anime archetype. To me it comes of as trying too hard to be cool.
I really want Kojimas version of WW2 playing as The Boss recruiting the members of the cobra unit and taking part in the normandy landings.
NumberThree
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So Ground Zeroes is released on PC today. How does it tie into the other games (if at all), what should I have played before playing it? I'm currently playing MGS3 (done with 1 and 2), and I'll probably never play MGS4 unless it gets HDfied for PC or PS4.
But man, that's like, 80% of metal gear
You probably need to play whatsit, Peace Walker or something first. It's a pity PW is kinda janky to play.
Well the PS3 HD port is probably okay
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It's a direct sequel to peace walker, which is after 3. You could probably get by on not play 4 before ground zeroes, though I would recommend playing it one day so you can see what an unrestrained Kojima is capable of.
Basileus777
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If you play through MGS3 first you should be good to go. Maybe go look up Peace Walker on Wikipedia.
stump sock
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Loot Crate is dumb as hell and I really don't know why you'd want someone else to pick out your random knickknacks for you.
the anime ads are the best though. HUNTER HUNTER
the anime ads are the best though. HUNTER HUNTER
NumberThree
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Cheers all, I'll see how Peace Walker plays after I finish MGS3 and then go for Ground Zeroes.
SuperStiltzkin
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I don't mean anime in general, I mean that specific anime character archetype. His Jack the Ripper alter-ego berzerker mode shit.
I actually kind of think it's almost inconsequential in MGR.
Like it kind of just exists for that cutscene and then the rest of MGR is just Raiden slicing things in lots of pieces
TheBaronOfNA
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KojiPro was in charge of story and cutscenes.
Backfoggen
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I finished MGS2 like 10 years ago and so far I have remembered nothing about what they played except for the bird. The ending parts on the other hand are seared into my brain. I can't wait for the next Scanlon's Metaru Gia.
Basileus777
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I wasn't sure how much direct involvement KojiPro had, but still, the result was a ridiculous and highly entertaining story.
I remember hating the Emma swimming parts.
SuperStiltzkin
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Well it comes up during the George cutscene and the Monsoon cutscene and when Jetstream Sam taunts him. All those scenes want to make you think Raiden is a heartless bastard.
My major problem being the George cutscene.
I don't care how advanced your medical and prosthetic technology is, I have a hard time believing Raiden would cut a kid in half and submit the rest of his lower body to being a robot.
funkystudent
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I completely forgot about everything that happened in that episode until just watching it.
I think trying to suss out everything that follows this episode pushed everything to do with Emma, Otacon, Vamp, the swimming and sniping stuff out of my memory.
The next episode is going to be amazing.
I think trying to suss out everything that follows this episode pushed everything to do with Emma, Otacon, Vamp, the swimming and sniping stuff out of my memory.
The next episode is going to be amazing.
Piston Hyundai
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"I don't understand anything that just happened."
I have to say that the Emma stuff aged pretty well, all things considered. They put Hal through the wringer for this game.
I have to say that the Emma stuff aged pretty well, all things considered. They put Hal through the wringer for this game.
EmCeeGramr
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MGS4 is a game that doesn't seem to care at all about the character arcs of past MGS games. Snake and Raiden are easily the biggest offenders.
When you step back and look at MGS2 and how it was made and how it was presented before launch and the themes going on and how Raiden and his portrayal changes over the course of the game, you get a bigger appreciation of what Kojima was doing and why.
Some people (Jeff is just one example among many) try to lump MGS2 and 4 together as games where if you like one you'd like the other, because they're both "crazy" story wise and 4 follows up 2's story etc. etc., but MGS4 is like some kind of Mirror MGS2 that superficially has a lot of similarities but underneath has a totally different philosophy behind it that is extremely obvious.
When you step back and look at MGS2 and how it was made and how it was presented before launch and the themes going on and how Raiden and his portrayal changes over the course of the game, you get a bigger appreciation of what Kojima was doing and why.
Some people (Jeff is just one example among many) try to lump MGS2 and 4 together as games where if you like one you'd like the other, because they're both "crazy" story wise and 4 follows up 2's story etc. etc., but MGS4 is like some kind of Mirror MGS2 that superficially has a lot of similarities but underneath has a totally different philosophy behind it that is extremely obvious.
Zabant
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Disgrace to your name.
Around the same time that Raiden was trying to help Emma Emmerich cross over to Strut B, Olga encountered and fought against Solid Snake. However, she later relented on her desires of avenging her father after she learned the truth from Snake about how her father was killed, as well as his involvement in getting her off the doomed tanker. They later decided to team up to help stop Arsenal Gear. However, in order to do that, Snake and Olga (in her Cyborg Ninja disguise) had to feign betrayal to Raiden and "capture and deliver" him to the Sons of Liberty in order to lessen security onboard Arsenal Gear.
You forgot the part that
She nearly drowned trying to save her parapelegic stepfather, who drove his wheelchair into the swimming pool to commit suicide as he knew his wife and son were fucking upstairs.
(There's also an implication that Octacon's stepmom was sexing him because Huey can't get a boner due to his condition, so she was sex starved.)
(There's also an implication that Octacon's stepmom was sexing him because Huey can't get a boner due to his condition, so she was sex starved.)
Jimmyfenix
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I think they would have the option to turn down ads, but I imagine they would only do so if it were offensive shit like dick pills or cash for gold.
Loot box seems like the dumb hipster shit Jeff would mock if he were not paid to advertise it, but then you could say the same for anime.
Car makers don't really want owners to have access to error codes. They want you to take if to a professional. That is why you get things like a check engine light that gives little to no information.
When does this happen. I want to see Dan's face too.
That's what they WANT you to think.
#followthemoney
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I seriously can't wait for the next EP of MGScanlon.
It is going to get off the rails so hard.
It is going to get off the rails so hard.
CambriaRising
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There should only be two more episodes at most. They could probably do it in 1 if they have a long finale like with mgs1.
Amazing music, too.
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