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Giant Bomb 18: Everything is always a surprise on some level
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Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
That's a step in the right direction but it's just not the same. There is something special about BF when you and four people rush towards a point, explosions everywhere and you really need to work as a squad to keep each other alive. Had some great moments in BF4 thanks to the squads (and classes) and without it I'm just not interested in a MP game anymore.
I'm not talking about Battlefront at all, just about that multiplayer statement. Not sure why you would bring up singleplayer, either, when we're talking about progression in multiplayer.
I completely agree. Sadly I don't have buddies anymore that roll with me in multiplayer games so I can live with that. It's a sad advantage, hah.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Focuses on new characters for the most part (the main characters are both new). It's a pretty strong cast that works really well. VO is amazing, soundtrack is outta sight, comedy hits very well.
Existing characters do appear though, however they're far less cloying than they are in the other Borderlands games and in some cases do stuff with them that made me actually like them.
Pretty forgettable honestly. If you're a super fan try it out I guess but if you've played more modern Telltale stuff you may find it hard to deal with.
May the bloodline live forever.
TheMrPliskin
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It's all new characters for the most part. There are a couple of characters from the other games but you don't need to play those games to enjoy Tales.
Felix Lighter
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I almost caved on Battlefront because it looks so damn good and nails the Star Wars look perfectly but, really, I know if I want that MP shooter fix, I'd rather go back to BF4. The vehicle system specifically turns me off to the game.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Dan always had a weirdly value focused review bias ala Capitan Todd.
Backfoggen
Banned
I was in the same boat but thank god for the EA Access trial. Battlefront is light years away from Battlefield.
Have to add that I don't care about the value and would have been fine with what's in the game if it were better.
Star Wars still deserves a proper multiplayer sandbox type game. The vehicles especially could have been so cool.
If any professional reviewers have proclaimed that, and then backtracked in their Battlefront review, it's probably because they realised it's a nonsensical stance to take in the first place, and completely impractical for gaming as a modern medium. With the way content is now split with B2P, F2P, micro-transactions, season passes, online monetisation, pre-order exclusives, retailer exclusives, etc - value has never been a more important factor of reviews.
Claiming to ignore value, then touching on any of those subjects, is hypocritical.
MassiveNights
Banned
Oh god, just catching up on that Fallout 4 review garbage
"I don't like when people review things low"
What the fuck?
"I don't like when people review things low"
What the fuck?
Jeff is probably just drumming up controversy for clicks which Giant Bomb is totally not monetized on.
I feel like many reviewers have made that claim, and it sorta makes sense. It has become complicated enough to were it is practically impossible to factor it in.
The boring example is Dota 2. I have played more than 300 hours of that game and have payed next to nothing, in a review were value is accounted for Dota 2 comes out as one of the best games ever made.
RepairmanJack
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Haven't listened to RT for a long while, but around when I stopped this almost seemed like a company mandate. So many times they would specifically state they don't want to say anything negative about games. It just came off weird like they didn't want to accidentally piss off anyone they could possibly work with or something.
Like everything, it's relative. You don't have to factor in value to every single review - unless you're going back to the old days of a Gamespot-esqe score formula - because it doesn't always apply, such as in your example.
But again, I find it hard to believe any professional reviewer would make a blanket statement of never factoring in review scores.
BF5 is coming next year. I just fear that it might follow the Battlefront model. Meaning not doing a SP campaign (that part I would be fine with because BF campaigns so far were trash) and at the same time not delivering a comprehensive MP package. I might be weird but when I look at a game skipping a campaign I kinda expect at least double the amount of maps I usually get from an MP mode. Quake 3 came with 26 maps, just to remind people that Mp only games once had a good amount of content. Don't even get me started on UT which was an even better package because of the modes and mutators. They also added new official maps through patches.
And he was completely right. Captain Toad was too content light for the asking price. I have played it but felt cheated by the end.
Maybe they have a general positive vibe as a goal for their content, that's not the worst thing in the world. Don't ask others to do the same, though.
Felix Lighter
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Some people were talking about whether a modder could fix the game on consoles, this mod is in the works.
Apparently the existing textures are high resolution but with a lot of compression, this guy is, one by one optimizing the textures by decompressing the textures and lower the resolution and applying better compression. It's hard to know now the impact on visuals but by the description, the highly compressed higher resolution textures look no better than the lower res textures.
Early Fallout 4 Texture Optimization Mod
Texture replacement should definitely be something supported on consoles, so I wouldn't be surprised to see this there if the developer sticks with it. Seems labor intensive though.
Apparently the existing textures are high resolution but with a lot of compression, this guy is, one by one optimizing the textures by decompressing the textures and lower the resolution and applying better compression. It's hard to know now the impact on visuals but by the description, the highly compressed higher resolution textures look no better than the lower res textures.
Early Fallout 4 Texture Optimization Mod
Texture replacement should definitely be something supported on consoles, so I wouldn't be surprised to see this there if the developer sticks with it. Seems labor intensive though.
Death Metalist
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Oh man, just went through everything concerning Patrick's night stream. Great shit, I kind of doubted him winning it but he did it, we'll see what's next now since Dan said immediately he's thinking about stuff for the next level haha.
On another note, I feel like Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker is a much better game than Star Wars: Battlefront for many different reasons.
1) It's 40$ as opposed to 60$
2) It's a spin off game that surprisingly has great gameplay and ideas within each level
3) Tons of shit to collect
4) It's doing something new when it comes to Nintendo games
5) Damn charming and creative
6) Fantastic soundtrack
I feel that after the novelty of playing a Star Wars game wears off, the game will just be another "FPS shooter" whereas with Captain Toad it'll always be a small spin-off game that was way better than everyone else thought it would be.
On another note, I feel like Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker is a much better game than Star Wars: Battlefront for many different reasons.
1) It's 40$ as opposed to 60$
2) It's a spin off game that surprisingly has great gameplay and ideas within each level
3) Tons of shit to collect
4) It's doing something new when it comes to Nintendo games
5) Damn charming and creative
6) Fantastic soundtrack
I feel that after the novelty of playing a Star Wars game wears off, the game will just be another "FPS shooter" whereas with Captain Toad it'll always be a small spin-off game that was way better than everyone else thought it would be.
Am I crazy or does the mod make the textures look better?
Misterinenja
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Why does the site keep giving me a login error when I try to sign at first in but let's me in the second time? It's been doing this for a while.
stump sock
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How can some dude have a better way of compressing textures than a giant game (and engine) developer?
I wouldn't pay more than 40 for it.
RepairmanJack
Member
This seems fucking sad.
TharpDaddy
Member
Looking at the comparison photos, I can't see any difference between them.
stump sock
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yet TOTALLY explains why my hard drive starts losing its mind when I walk long distances outdoors in the game.
also explains why they recommend a minimum of 2gb vram.
which is kind of exactly the point. he says it's noticeable on smaller objects, but only barely. regardless, the game already looks like shit most of the time, so I figure I'm not losing much in my quest for performance
TharpDaddy
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People really don't like Battlefront having average reviews. I'm seeing a lot more "review excuses" in that thread than I saw in any Fallout threads.
I'll be able to pump up some other graphic stuff with that mod so i'm down for it!
I'll be able to pump up some other graphic stuff with that mod so i'm down for it!
TharpDaddy
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Woops, double post!
SWBF is also reviewing a lot lower than F4.
Felix Lighter
Member
Well, he's just decompressing, lower the resolution of and recompressing them so they shouldn't look better but they don't appear to look any worse, which is the key here. If they look nicer in some of the images, it's likely just the lighting or angle.
stump sock
Member
holy crap new Valkyria???
also lol at this thread getting bumped. keep on being right, Kuchera/Polygon
also lol at this thread getting bumped. keep on being right, Kuchera/Polygon
TharpDaddy
Member
It is, but that review excuse graphic popped up even before Fallout embargo was up. I just found it funny that now people are making a lot of excuses for Battlefront when it's not even reviewing poorly. There are a lot of comments like "reviewers don't understand" and similar. The comment trend of wanting Fallout 4 to review poorly and Battlefront to review well is strange.
They look a little sharper along the edges. The full sized ones have a slight blurriness to them. Wouldn't downsampling make it sharper?
Backfoggen
Banned
Yeah, it's pretty funny how those review threads are pretty much the polar opposite. The pre-release need for Fallout 4 to fail was intense.
stump sock
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might depend on the compression being used, but might also be a sign of your computer having fewer issues streaming reasonably sized textures?
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info from Dan 'Content Machine' Ryckert:
Wants to set up a game of Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes with Paul over Skype
Thanksgiving podcast with Dan, Paul and his girlfriend.
i can agree with that. If it would not be for the mexican vpn trick I would have waited a bit longer.
I'd imagine it's no coincidence "Attach-rate is about the same as the previous gen. However, extra content sales have gone up significantly."
Death Metalist
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Weird, the best thing about them is when they talk more about what they did or about themselves in general so you get a better idea of them as people. It's the reason why after listening to them for so long they feel like friends/distant relatives. Different strokes for different folks I guess but as long as they talk about whatever the fuck they want in the podcast then that's fine with me. I'd hate it if they were limited or had to follow a set of dumb rules.
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