Maybe he's figured out that if he says something is bad, people will send him free stuff. But for these Metro games he's clearly given it a fair go and believes it's just not for him.
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Giant Bomb #9 | More Dan Meets The Eye
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Maybe he's figured out that if he says something is bad, people will send him free stuff. But for these Metro games he's clearly given it a fair go and believes it's just not for him.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I think you're putting too much of your own perspective into it if I'm being honest.
Also he does troll anime fans, I'm not going to deny that, and I find it just as exasperating, but that and food are the only things where I feel like he doesn't give a reason. He gives fairly tangible reasons for his distaste of metro if you look further in the quick look and acknowledge that it's not for him. That is far different than 'random subject X is shit'.
Also DOTA I guess, but GB giving DotA shit outside of brad ain't new.
Dark times.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Also seeing that this is the first quick look of him actively disliking a game I dunno why people keep thinking that it's a regular occurrence.
SatelliteOfLove
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firehawk12
Subete no aware
It was funny seeing the KLK divisiveness hit the GB thread. Anime, tearing people apart one community at a time. lol
Hopefully not. I'd like to think bare knuckle boxers have better taste.
puffyshirt
Banned
Also, Jeff scored MK vs DCU a 5/5?! Sweet merciful crap...
Wait, seriously? I didn't follow the site at the point but that's...generous. Dude really loves his MK.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I would just wonder why he would want to drive the QL if he knows he hates the game, other than "we can make a video of Dan hating the game and that will be 'funny'".
I don't mind "dumb" Dan. Like when he pours coke into a glass of Scotch, all I can really say is "Oh Dan you so silly" and call it a day. Same with the "let's wrap chicken in tinfoil and put it in the freezer" thing. Or the fact that he doesn't watch movies with subtitles. All that stuff is part of the "personality" of Dan.I think you're putting too much of your own perspective into it if I'm being honest.
Also he does troll anime fans, I'm not going to deny that, and I find it just as exasperating, but that and food are the only things where I feel like he doesn't give a reason. He gives fairly tangible reasons for his distaste of metro if you look further in the quick look and acknowledge that it's not for him. That is far different than 'random subject X is shit'.
Also DOTA I guess, but GB giving DotA shit outside of brad ain't new.
I'm sure in a year when Dan has established his character, there won't be any more "surprises" in terms of what Dan will go off on. It's just right now that everything he says is almost antagonistic, whether he means it or not.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
For me, Dan is exactly what Giant Bomb needed. Crazy, funny personality with weird quirks and hilarious stories, and taste in games unlike all the Giant Bomb guys. He's just so damn entertaining to me once I got over the shock of how strange he is.
The thing that can be off-putting is that he comes on very strong pretty often and can sometimes dismiss something without giving much of a reason. Now that's really nothing new for GB but as the new guy he's definitely under more scrutiny than the already established tastes of the other guys. For some his gaps in general knowledge might be endearing, for others it gets tiring.
That being said, for the record I agree with you. He's been an incredibly entertaining addition, has great chemistry with the main players (his wrestling/MK reference filled rapport with Jeff, the playful rivalry with Brad and his new BFF Drew). He's been the driving force between a lot (all?) of the non-UPF premium content recently and brings some most positive Nintendo coverage to the site.
Still, I understand why people aren't the fondest of Dan yet and that's okay!
They do QLs like that all the time though, there were 4 of them posted this week alone. We started the week with Jeff doing his second Warriors QL of the year. He also did two Destiny QLs after doing a 4hr stream where he didnt like it at all. Even Jeff felt bad about derailing the Smash Bros QL, which is why they played some more during UPF.
if they are from east London nintendo didn't do shit here in the 80s boxers will be repping Chuckie Egg vs Dizzy
Infinite Justice
Member
Nah.
I doubt he cares about the free stuff, he just says what he feels. It just that GB community has that effect of sending stuff to the guys either to help the guys out, to challenge a viewpoint or generally just being generous.
The Commodore was strong, but I still have that weird NES Dizzy cartridge which needed another game to be plugged into the back to work.
SSX, several other TNTs I can't remember. One time they did an office TNT or whatever with Dave, Vinny, and Coonce. It was awesome, but I can't find it online anymore. Someone had reuploaded it to youtube, but it's gone now.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Remember Alf? He's back in pog form!
He was a regular on the WM Happy Hour and TNT. Awesome guy, definitely one the most missed things about the WM days.
Because he was playing it already? Maybe they were sitting around and saying "Hey, should we do a quicklook for this?" and then he said "Oh hey, sure I'll do it. I've already played a little bit/I want to give it another shot."
Why does the reason only have to be that one thing? There could be so many other reasons why he was the one ultimately heading it.
Would you rather have them say, "No, Dan. We are going to put someone on it that will only say positive things about it because we're one of those sites." If so, there are a bunch of sites I can point you to that only say positive things about games even if they don't believe what they're saying.
Wow. Just like the Smash Unfinished, the Metro QL was not nearly as bad as people made it out to be. Dan established within a few minutes he personally didn't like the series, but still respected it on an objective level. And by the end, he admitted to be enjoying Last Light.
The QL is the most I've seen of those games, and I'm now really interested in them. All the things Dan struggled with (being carried off, low ammo, the mask mechanic, etc.) made the game look interesting and unique, and his attention to specific details (stabbing things, essentially) made the game look fun in a way I personally could have missed. It was entertaining watching him go through it, and hearing his emotional reactions to everything. And Brad was the perfect foil to him.
Seriously, it was a fine QL. Not the best one, but good enough to make for a quick 22 minutes. Better than the Destiny QL, for example.
The QL is the most I've seen of those games, and I'm now really interested in them. All the things Dan struggled with (being carried off, low ammo, the mask mechanic, etc.) made the game look interesting and unique, and his attention to specific details (stabbing things, essentially) made the game look fun in a way I personally could have missed. It was entertaining watching him go through it, and hearing his emotional reactions to everything. And Brad was the perfect foil to him.
Seriously, it was a fine QL. Not the best one, but good enough to make for a quick 22 minutes. Better than the Destiny QL, for example.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I said it already, but look at the difference between Jeff on both Destiny QLs and Dan on the Metro QL. Both are negative on the game, especially the PS3 Destiny QL, but I just prefer Jeff's "presentation" over Dan's.
I think I'll see what Alex's QL of NHL15 will be like, but I doubt it'll be as aggressively angry as the Metro QL.
Infinite Justice
Member
Hmm, I have been premium subscriber for years, and this year might be the year that I decide not to continue subscribing anymore.
His personality can be grating, sure he might be funny at times, but very often grating. I have only been listening halfway thru the podcast in the past few months, except for few episodes (e.g. the one with John Drake), and I have been skipping their Unprofessional Fridays and QLs now.
Don't get me wrong, this is probably where my tastes diverge. I'm pretty sure many people like his jokes, but somehow it doesn't really work with me. And if you like the new lineup, you should definitely support them, nothing wrong with that. And for those who don't like, it's okay to move on to elsewhere too, it's your money too. In the end GB is a for-profit company, they need to try out several different examples before settling down on a new content approach that they are comfortable with, and there's nothing wrong with it.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Dynasty Warriors is a shitty comfort food game. The only thing that's annoying with the coverage is Jeff being incredulous over people enjoying the games when he likes Marvel Heroes simply because he gets to kill tonnes of guys.
Metro's an ambitious but hugely flawed series so I think it's more understandable that fans get riled up when people utterly shit on the games. However they need to distance themselves from the criticism. Dan being bamboozled by Patrick playing them in Russian is no better than Jeff's reaction to Dynasty Warriors; if a person doesn't give a shit about the intricacies of a game which make you love them why should you give a shit about what they think about it?
Messofanego
Banned
Well, at least glad to hear some people are interested in the games after checking that video out.
He was hired as a behind the scenes video guy, Drew was barely on camera for a long time too. I've seen his wife pop up in chat before and say that it's not up to Jason whether he appears on camera or not so it's probably just Jeff (or maybe Drew who's probably his boss with Vinny gone) wanting someone consistently in the control room. I'd like to see him pop up more/at all, though even though he's great behind the scenes (he pays attention and points things out!) He has to show up on whatever the next fighting game QL is though, right?
I'm sure I'm not the only one. From the outset, there has to be something intriguing about them to make Dan so emotional, right? And then we see all these cool, surprising details, like wiping off the mask, a dragon-bird-thing that then carries Dan off to his amusing frustration, and so on. In-between Dan's bursts of negativity, he and Brad acknowledge the game is atmospheric, respectable, pretty, loved by many people (including Patrick), etc., and Dan is legitimately having a good time by the end.
It just came off as a really cool series. Dan was definitely pretty negative overall, but in my eyes, it was a passionate reaction that helped show what made the games unique. Jeff's Firefall QL was entertaining and informative, but his general apathy toward the game didn't somehow put it in a more positive light. Eliciting these reactions from Dan made for a more compelling introduction to the series, at least for me.
Servbot #42
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Man Dan really doesn't like the metro games...oh well. I'm looking forward to getting redux when i get a PS4 and playing using ranger mode which is actually the true way to play that game, it removes the bullet sponges enemies that fucking suck. It's too bad Dan doesn't have the patience for a slow and methodical game like metro, his loss.
Oh god I wish Ryan was still around if only for his reactions to some of Dan's shit. I haven't paid much attention to the site this year, but just caught a bit of UPF randomly where Dan mixed Coke Zero with the expensive Scotch(as well as arguing for keeping all liquor in the fridge)...such a perfect Ryan goes crazy moment.
The Dear Leader
Banned
Oh god I wish Ryan was still around if only for his reactions to some of Dan's shit. I haven't paid much attention to the site this year, but just caught a bit of UPF randomly where Dan mixed Coke Zero with the expensive Scotch(as well as arguing for keeping all liquor in the fridge)...such a perfect Ryan goes crazy moment.
Yeah Ryan would call him out on all of his bullshit and it would be hilarious, I've been rewatching his and Dave's Elder Scrolls marathon videos and I really miss him.
You're definitely not the only one. I'm interested in trying the games out after seeing that quick look. He explained pretty clearly why he didn't like it, and the reasons he gave for not liking it make it sound like something I might enjoy. He may have been somewhat dismissive in the beginning but he delved into reasons why he didn't like it and he even conceded why some people may enjoy it.
I also thought he was entertaining, I've never heard him so fired up in a negative way before, it was pretty funny.
NightmareTrigger
Banned
Me too, started DLing 2033 after I watched the QL
bloodyroarxx
Member
I bet we will see Jason appear when the Fighting games start coming out since hes into those.
funkystudent
Member
I do hope they can get Dan and Vinny together for something. Even if its just 1 UPF.
Holy shit, I'm just now watching the Metro QL after reading all these comments all day and I'm shocked how little credit so many people are giving Dan. He says repeatedly that he recognizes these are good games, just not for him. He immediately points out specific reasons why he doesn't like the game: the movement speed on the aiming is slow, wiping off your mask and changing air filters is tedious. I will admit, however, he does say the word "stupid" much more than he probably ought to.
Unless they fixed it in the remake, prepare to be underwhelmed by the shooting. For a game where ammo is supposed to be extremely precious the enemies take a ton of shots to kill, the guns are extremely inaccurate, and there are tons of enemies. I was really excited to play the game after the Idle Thumbs guys were gushing about the stuff like the gas mask and pumping the guns, but it just wasn't much fun to play.
I'll be disappointed if Vinny's not around for GOTY.
Infinite Justice
Member
dude has another kid to take care of now but apparently he should be in an upcoming NHL 15 QuickLook
Unless the kid is a handful i expect him to be there (although on skype or whatever like Alex)
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I assume Vinny will Skype. Whether or not he'll fly in is another thing though. Last year Alex didn't bother while Patrick did.
Yeah Alex isn't gonna make the same mistake twice. He's (probably) gonna fly in so he doesn't get edged out.
That's why we need Elon Musks Hyperloop to happen, NY to SF is 45 mins.
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