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Giant Bomb are bringing back the Endurance Run... and it's Shenmue.

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kiguel182

Member
They are playing the game for work, they can't stop playing it. That post is something else...

I honestly think the idea behind Shenmue is super interesting. But I don't think it makes the most of this idea from what I've seen.

When feeding a kitten is being touted as this great activity you can make is because maybe there's something to improve.
 
With proper time-management you don't have to wait (that is, stand still). The Asia Travel Company told you that you have to come back at a certain time. What do you do until then? Here's a possible routine:
  • Have conversations with people at the town and ask them what they think about that travel agency; most of them will share with you some anecdotes about their experience with it and/or the bad rumours they have heard about it.
  • Buy food and go feed the kitty, which you/Ryo care about (it will recover faster, and you'll be happy to see it getting well).
  • Go buy scroll moves from the Bunkado Antique shop. Open them to learn new moves.
  • Go to a park/parking-lot to train and advance your (new) moves.
  • Go to the You Arcade to have fun by playing a game of your choice.
  • Finally, around 19:45, go home; Save the game, and then Sleep (you can sleep after 20:00).
(a lot of other activities have been omitted)

The time will fly by as you patiently immerse-yourself/invest-your-attention in this world.

These things are not interesting? Then stop playing this game; it's not for you. It's based on real-world-standards and it's a new/different kind of entertainment for certain people (but certainly not few).

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Posts like this make me embarrassed to be a Shenmue fan. Jesus.
 

xxracerxx

Don't worry, I'll vouch for them.
With proper time-management you don't have to wait (that is, stand still). The Asia Travel Company told you that you have to come back at a certain time. What do you do until then? Here's a possible routine:
  • Have conversations with people at the town and ask them what they think about that travel agency; most of them will share with you some anecdotes about their experience with it and/or the bad rumours they have heard about it.
  • Buy food and go feed the kitty, which you/Ryo care about (it will recover faster, and you'll be happy to see it getting well).
  • Go buy scroll moves from the Bunkado Antique shop. Open them to learn new moves.
  • Go to a park/parking-lot to train and advance your (new) moves.
  • Go to the You Arcade to have fun by playing a game of your choice.
  • Finally, around 19:45, go home; Save the game, and then Sleep (you can sleep after 20:00).
(a lot of other activities have been omitted)

The time will fly by as you patiently immerse-yourself/invest-your-attention in this world.

But what if you don't want to do any of that?
 

PBalfredo

Member
With proper time-management you don't have to wait (that is, stand still). The Asia Travel Company told you that you have to come back at a certain time. What do you do until then? Here's a possible routine:
  • Have conversations with people at the town and ask them what they think about that travel agency; most of them will share with you some anecdotes about their experience with it and/or the bad rumours they have heard about it.
  • Buy food and go feed the kitty, which you/Ryo care about (it will recover faster, and you'll be happy to see it getting well).
  • Go buy scroll moves from the Bunkado Antique shop. Open them to learn new moves.
  • Go to a park/parking-lot to train and advance your (new) moves.
  • Go to the You Arcade to have fun by playing a game of your choice.
  • Finally, around 19:45, go home; Save the game, and then Sleep (you can sleep after 20:00).
(a lot of other activities have been omitted)

Wow, a perfect list of things the GBE crew has already tried, done and/or don't care about.
 

ShenmueNextGen

Neo Member
Posts like this make me embarrassed to be a Shenmue fan. Jesus.

I'm not sure which point of that post makes you feel embarrassed (as a Shenmue fan).

- Was it because of the first quote from Yu Suzuki himself? [Source: http://shenmuedojo.net/new/extras/interview1114.html]
- Was it because of the second quote from the video titled as "Yu Suzuki: Project Berkley"? [Source: https://youtu.be/Tu86tlnFLVE?t=30m18s]
- Was it because of the third or fourth quote from the video titled as "Dreamcast Magazine Shenmue Trailer"? [Source: https://youtu.be/cf-MK4599A8?t=5m25s and https://youtu.be/cf-MK4599A8?t=24s]

Maybe the following quote is going to embarrass you, too: "Then, one question started to grow among the staffs: Is this really a game?" [Source: "GDC 2000: Yu Suzuki Shenmue Presentation" - https://youtu.be/DzEt6yZPVcY?t=18m19s]
 
I'm not sure why that post makes you feel embarrassed (as a Shenmue fan).

- Was it because of the first quote from Yu Suzuki himself? [Source: http://shenmuedojo.net/new/extras/interview1114.html]
- Was it because of the second quote from the video titled as "Yu Suzuki: Project Berkley"? [Source: https://youtu.be/Tu86tlnFLVE?t=30m18s]
- Was it because of the third or fourth quote from the video titled as "Dreamcast Magazine Shenmue Trailer"? [Source: https://youtu.be/cf-MK4599A8?t=5m25s and https://youtu.be/cf-MK4599A8?t=24s]

Maybe the following quote is going to embarrass you, too: "Then, one question started to grow among the staffs: Is this really a game?" [Source: "GDC 2000: Yu Suzuki Shenmue Presentation" - https://youtu.be/DzEt6yZPVcY?t=18m19s]

Dude. Shenmue 1 and 2 are my favorite games period and I think you're being too harsh. The GB guys get what Shenmue is about by now. The series had a lull in episodes 4-6 or so but since it's pretty good so long as you don't take the game too seriously. They've done all of that and it doesn't interest them. They don't like Shenmue 1, and that's totally fine. It's a divisive game. They have no reason to seek that stuff out if, after they've tried it, and don't like it. I think you're being overly critical and a spoil sport. Whether or not they like disc 3, I don't know. We'll see. It's definitely when I started to "get" Shenmue, despite being on rails, but at least give them credit. They've tried out what the game has to offer and didn't enjoy it. Move on.
 
I'm not sure why that post makes you feel embarrassed (as a Shenmue fan).

- Was it because of the first quote from Yu Suzuki himself? [Source: http://shenmuedojo.net/new/extras/interview1114.html]
- Was it because of the second quote from the video titled as "Yu Suzuki: Project Berkley"? [Source: https://youtu.be/Tu86tlnFLVE?t=30m18s]
- Was it because of the third or fourth quote from the video titled as "Dreamcast Magazine Shenmue Trailer"? [Source: https://youtu.be/cf-MK4599A8?t=5m25s and https://youtu.be/cf-MK4599A8?t=24s]

Maybe the following quote is going to embarrass you, too: "Then, one question started to grow among the staffs: Is this really a game?" [Source: "GDC 2000: Yu Suzuki Shenmue Presentation" - https://youtu.be/DzEt6yZPVcY?t=18m19s]

No I'm fine with Yu being hyperbolic about his passion product. He made a real good game, a real good game with massive flaws like no real side content if you get caught with a day to wait out.

Seeing you try to justify these tiny (and mostly dull) elements as great content so passionately is the embarrassing part. When I think what I love about Shenmue it's definitely spending 30 minutes practicing fight moves!!!

:\
 

kiguel182

Member
The lack of self awareness really is something.

"Here are four quotes I have ready at any moment to support this statement that nobody but me cares about and really is not an important issue at all".

Imagine what you could do with this effort in like actual important issues!
 

BOTEC

Member
I'm just bummed out by the fact people keep saying a game that gives you perfect versions of Hang-On and Space Harrier has no interesting side content. :(
 
I honestly think the idea behind Shenmue is super interesting. But I don't think it makes the most of this idea from what I've seen.

It does. Please either play Shenmue on your own or watch the GameInformer super replay as a more representative play-through. (link)

Watch that run and its night and day. You're just not gonna see the most from this game in this run. From one emo-gaffer to another. It brings those suburban mopes.
 

Toparaman

Banned
I am enjoying the hell out of this endurance run and I hope they do Shenmue 2. Maybe they're not great games, but they're pretty perfect banter material for GB.
 

Brashnir

Member
I'm just bummed out by the fact people keep saying a game that gives you perfect versions of Hang-On and Space Harrier has no interesting side content. :(

I mean, I can play perfect versions of Hang-On and Space Harrier without having to put up with the bullshit called Shenmue to play them.
 
I'm just bummed out by the fact people keep saying a game that gives you perfect versions of Hang-On and Space Harrier has no interesting side content. :(

Great games obviously but I always played darts.

Remember the DC had a weird online thing? I got a score of like 700 on darts and uploaded it, I was the 7th highest score in the world with that score.

10 year old me was pretty fucking chuffed with that!
 
I'm not sure which point of that post makes you feel embarrassed (as a Shenmue fan).

- Was it because of the first quote from Yu Suzuki himself? [Source: http://shenmuedojo.net/new/extras/interview1114.html]
- Was it because of the second quote from the video titled as "Yu Suzuki: Project Berkley"? [Source: https://youtu.be/Tu86tlnFLVE?t=30m18s]
- Was it because of the third or fourth quote from the video titled as "Dreamcast Magazine Shenmue Trailer"? [Source: https://youtu.be/cf-MK4599A8?t=5m25s and https://youtu.be/cf-MK4599A8?t=24s]

Maybe the following quote is going to embarrass you, too: "Then, one question started to grow among the staffs: Is this really a game?" [Source: "GDC 2000: Yu Suzuki Shenmue Presentation" - https://youtu.be/DzEt6yZPVcY?t=18m19s]

This is gold, please keep this up.
 

kiguel182

Member
It does. Please either play Shenmue on your own or watch the GameInformer super replay as a more representative play-through. (link)

Watch that run and its night and day. You're just not gonna see the most from this game in this run. From one emo-gaffer to another. It brings those suburban mopes.

If I find a way to play it I would totally be interested in it. I've been a little harsh to the game in this thread but I've turned a bit around. At least enough to be interested.

I still think altought what it's accomplished here in 99 is super impressive but I wonder what could be done today with more advanced AI routines, maybe a different story (not the biggest fan of that aspect so far) and a more expansive (if still compact) world.

The idea of "live in this tiny village and discover all this stories and interactions" is definitely a very interesting one.

I still think this version of the concept has some big flaws, some maybe limitations of its time but I'm at a point where I would try it if I find an easy enough way to do it (I am not buying a dreamcast people!).
 
Watch them finish the Endurance Run and then Sega suddenly announces Shenmue I+II HD with modern controls and help systems and rerecorded VO
 
If they re recorded Shenmue's VA they'd have to also probably relocalize it. So that makes unlikely to happen. But if they offered a Japanese voice option...
 
If I find a way to play it I would totally be interested in it. I've been a little harsh to the game in this thread but I've turned a bit around. At least enough to be interested.

I still think altought what it's accomplished here in 99 is super impressive but I wonder what could be done today with more advanced AI routines, maybe a different story (not the biggest fan of that aspect so far) and a more expansive (if still compact) world.

The idea of "live in this tiny village and discover all this stories and interactions" is definitely a very interesting one.

I still think this version of the concept has some big flaws, some maybe limitations of its time but I'm at a point where I would try it if I find an easy enough way to do it (I am not buying a dreamcast people!).

This is entirely understandable.

Number one top song to listen to on the bus while waiting to murder Lan Di.
 

Jintor

Member
i don't think shenmue is garbage. weird and peaky, vaguely janky, and great endurance run material, most definitely.

but as many people have said i'm turning on the fanbase pretty hard lol
 
Every fanbase has awful fans who are an embarrassing minority. It's why every OT thread becomes unbearable a few weeka after launch because it's an echo chamber of nutters who love something unreservedly.

Every franchise is the same. Zelda, Souls, Halo, Resident Evil... at a certain point once discussion starts to get so specific you always get the nutters hanging around who ruin it for everyone.

Most people I know who like Shenmue as much as I do accept it for what it is, a quirky adventure game.
 

so1337

Member
Watch them finish the Endurance Run and then Sega suddenly announces Shenmue I+II HD with modern controls and help systems and rerecorded VO
Rerecording VO for a game with an extremely passionate fan base is:

1. A good idea
2. A great idea
3. A mistake
4. Thor 2: The Dark World
 

kiguel182

Member
Every fanbase has awful fans who are an embarrassing minority. It's why every OT thread becomes unbearable a few weeka after launch because it's an echo chamber of nutters who love something unreservedly.

Every franchise is the same. Zelda, Souls, Halo, Resident Evil... at a certain point once discussion starts to get so specific you always get the nutters hanging around who ruin it for everyone.

Most people I know who like Shenmue as much as I do accept it for what it is, a quirky adventure game.

Like every fan base some people just ruin it for the others.
 

PBalfredo

Member
For all the hand wringing that they're ignoring all of the optional time wasters in the game, it's worth noting that the one "sidequest" that Vinny actually wanted to work towards - finding someone to translate the Chinese scroll - gets ignored by the game itself super hard.
 
"......She is such a nice girl......."
I'M GOING TO HONK KONG


Ahhh...I know that the way things worked out they had to 'waste' a day, but two things.

Firstly, this video made me realise how well this game evokes an ACTUAL role play. These guys FELT that frustration. Ryo, meh, he is a blank canvas, but damn, these guys were frustrated to hell, and that was funnier to watch, than a scripted amination of Ryo getting pissed.

Secondly, there is stuff to find and explore, I mean the moment that they left the room they triggered a cut scene, things are just not obvious in the game.

Kinda sucks at roleplay. If you just got ripped off by the lady at the travel agency who told you to come back in four hours and subsequently ran. Why would you trust the man at the same travel agency who tells his goons to beat you up and tells you to come back in the morning without giving your money back or even any insurance of any kind? La-me
 
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