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Dan cited several issues with the game outside of technical ones
Blitzrules240
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Elusive targets were a genius concept. Giving credit where credit is due.
Just got my Persona 5 and Nier Automata CDs and uploaded them to Google Play, so going through them and adding the songs I like outside the game and just listening to as I go. Persona 5, mostly added the vocal tracks and a couple of others but my god, I new I loved the Nier Automata soundtrack as I was playing, but 10 tracks in and I've added them all to the playlist so far.
It's also got the chiptune hacking versions of the songs on the CD. This fucking rocks.
It's also got the chiptune hacking versions of the songs on the CD. This fucking rocks.
Human Trashcan
Banned
But XCOM 2 was a goddamn mess, for everyone. That was just a really glitchy game, and super poorly optimized. I don't know how it is now but I'm pretty sure that even weeks after release it was still not in a great state. I've heard of some glitches in Prey and experienced a few myself, but I haven't heard of anyone else encountering game-stopping bugs. In that case, couldn't you at least wait a week or two to see if a patch resolves it? Maybe it's anti-Bethesda sentiment, idk, but punishing Arkane for that and giving a 4.0 to a game that might have scored a 7-8 after patch is just... so short-sighted. Who does that serve?
EmCeeGramr
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The weird part comes from the fact that it's a rare bug that Arkane already had a working beta patch up for (that's a thing on Steam) before the review came out, which the reviewer apparently didn't know about, though he knew a patch was coming.
Like, if the game honestly can't be completed, then give it a 0 or an Incomplete or something, don't half-ass it by saying "well, 4, that communicates great game that had a rare endgame bug." If you're making this out to be a big grand stand against bugs in games to warn consumers, then... great, except you already know that the fix is around the corner, so by the time the majority of the people you warned away from the game would have reached that point it might have already been fixed anyway, and now your review is of a version of the game that no longer exists. It doesn't help that the PC version is easily the best version right now and seems to be what the game was designed for, so trying to tell people that they should avoid that version based on a rare unlucky occurrence that's already going to be eliminated feels more misleading.
Like, if the game honestly can't be completed, then give it a 0 or an Incomplete or something, don't half-ass it by saying "well, 4, that communicates great game that had a rare endgame bug." If you're making this out to be a big grand stand against bugs in games to warn consumers, then... great, except you already know that the fix is around the corner, so by the time the majority of the people you warned away from the game would have reached that point it might have already been fixed anyway, and now your review is of a version of the game that no longer exists. It doesn't help that the PC version is easily the best version right now and seems to be what the game was designed for, so trying to tell people that they should avoid that version based on a rare unlucky occurrence that's already going to be eliminated feels more misleading.
also Stapleton reviewed Fallout 4 and gave it a 9.5 and said he encountered multiple quest breaking bugs but ehhh that doesn't slow down the experience
The difference the average Bethesda game is full of game breaking bugs across every corner and reviews rarely even mention it. The IGN review of Prey had ONE game breaking bug and they decided that was enough to ruin the entire game.
Alternatively, Little Nightmares has an 8.8 on IGN when I cna't even launch the game and several others cant because the PC port is utterly fucked for several people.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I'm not saying he should give the game a 9 and write "I'll probably stay good though" but a 4 seems incredibly arbitrary. Just publish the text without a score.
Their CMS probably doesn't let them.
CoolBatteryCharge
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It's oversimplifying, but it is silly that this conversation is only happening because there's a number attached to greater context. Subjective scores (especially ones that people use as recommendations) are really dumb.
Was the term "immersive sim" for the genre coined really recently or something?
Because I only heard it used the first time in the past week on podcasts.
I've been playing this genre for like 20 years now and never used that term.
"Immersive sim" just makes me think of Rollercoaster Tycoon or flight simulators.
Because I only heard it used the first time in the past week on podcasts.
I've been playing this genre for like 20 years now and never used that term.
"Immersive sim" just makes me think of Rollercoaster Tycoon or flight simulators.
People are actually saying Shenmue is the best Sega game on gaming side
Ah, they forgot a 2? That's a shame.
Will probably always be Sonic 3&K for me really
Completely agree with you on that, though people really do like that Panzer Dragoon.
CoolBatteryCharge
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It's kinda weird/funny after years of some push back against the word "immersion" as a game descriptor.
People are actually saying Shenmue is the best Sega game on gaming side
😂
Those fools.
The term has been around for a long time, people just recently started using it instead of Deus Ex or System Shock clone.
People are actually saying Shenmue is the best Sega game on gaming side
It's Virtua Tennis.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I can't stand his opinions. I'm happy good folks like Jose and Peer are there tho.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
"Get to work Operative 74. Good luck"
I don't know how many others share my sentiment but these things prevented me from ever buying the game. I had no interest in preordering their early access experiment and online only single player bullshit, then by the time those were no longer an issue it felt like there was so much missed content from the elusive targets that I lost interest. Also mostly I just hate stealth game in general.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
So you wouldn't have bought it anyway?
DanLongman
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I'll second this.
If it weren't for the online save thing when people were most excited about the game and if the game were actually finished, I probably would have bought it. I definitely would have when it was on sale for like $15 bucks at Gamestop. I think they fixed the offline saves shortly after that too.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
You should listen to the danswers with him. I think he's a teenage dad?
They post review-in-progress with no score all the time for stuff with major online components all the time.
Jason had a kid when he was like 15 or something. Jason's past is probably worse than Jeff's
I think they already said they will but no concrete info on what it will be about. But they did confirm that Max's story is done, iirc.
Absolutely. Jason was a true dirtbag or at least lived with quite a few of them
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
LiS: the Warren Chronicles
CoolBatteryCharge
Member
That's largely where I'm at too. Waited until they finally announced proper offline play. Bought the starter thing from a PSN sale in December. 2017 quickly filled with great new stuff and I have almost no care to even boot Hitman nonetheless add any more money to it.
According to the Wiki.
Victoria' last appearance depends on the ending you choose :
Max sacrifices Chloe :
She will appear along with Max, Joyce, David and other Blackwell students and mourn over Chloe at the cemetery.
Max chooses to sacrifice Arcadia Bay and save Chloe :
Victoria won't be seen as she presumably dies during the storm.
Max sacrifices Chloe :
She will appear along with Max, Joyce, David and other Blackwell students and mourn over Chloe at the cemetery.
Max chooses to sacrifice Arcadia Bay and save Chloe :
Victoria won't be seen as she presumably dies during the storm.
Basileus777
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The gods are punishing a genre for the arrogance of calling itself a title as awful as immersive sims.
It's not new, but I don't know why it has become such a popular term recently. Especially when people are applying to things like Bioshock where it fits poorly.
Human Trashcan
Banned
That's what we can all take away from this
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
They should just be action games like the Super Mario bros.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Yes.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I'd give Prey a 4 because the jump scare
is the only thing in my life that's ever made me react to something as though I'm Klepek watching a horror movie trailer for clicks.
Though there's always been a huge issue with how review sites treat glitches in games. Maybe they should have thought about standardising how bugs affect scores when the New Vegas business went down.
where you have to calibrate the touch screen
Though there's always been a huge issue with how review sites treat glitches in games. Maybe they should have thought about standardising how bugs affect scores when the New Vegas business went down.
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