There should be PS1 support for downloaded titles even if the CDs wouldn't work.
I don't want to play digital copy of RE3 on my PS4 Pro, but I should have the option, like I do on my PS3 and Vita.
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There should be PS1 support for downloaded titles even if the CDs wouldn't work.
I don't want to play digital copy of RE3 on my PS4 Pro, but I should have the option, like I do on my PS3 and Vita.
BreezyLimbo
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Seriously. I was able to emulate PS1 games on my PSP for christ sakes. They could realistically create an emulator app on the PS4 and sale games through there. If my PSP can run PS1 games, the ps4 can do ps1 and ps2 easily through brute force.
Guess what: the majority of people dont care about anything until you market to them. Who the fuck cares about the new god of war right now? The first trailer they had for it didnt make me care, not until theres more details on it.
Thats Sonys job. They have a whole catalogue of PS1 and PS2 games that they can make money off. Theyre just being pedantic assholes. "Ancient graphics" gtfo out of here, Dead Cells has what you would call "ancient graphics" and yet its more fun than any of the over produced shit youve put out in recent years.
Xbox is proving that it's kind of worth it if you make a big enough deal about it.
But again, it really shouldn't be a tough sell for them to make emulators of this shit.
And for convenience's sake, I'd rather just pay $5 for THPS2 and be playing it three minutes later than having to download an emulator and pirate the fucking thing cuz my computer doesn't have a disc drive anymore.
BreezyLimbo
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Right. With Xbox its become "preorder this and get the old game for free". Its become "play the original while you wait for the sequel!". It helps put the product in peoples mind. Being able to play Gears of War right before 4 came out was neat.
When you don't have a feature, you downplay how useful it is.
Like rumble on the PS3.
Or BC on the Xbone at launch.
https://www.polygon.com/2013/5/22/4...compatibility-backwards-thinking-don-mattrick
Like rumble on the PS3.
Or BC on the Xbone at launch.
https://www.polygon.com/2013/5/22/4...compatibility-backwards-thinking-don-mattrick
Did you accidentally forget to post this when you were talking about ARMS last time and just have it there ready to submit?
Both of those will probably happen. 10 loud Nintendo fans doesn't mean gaf as a whole is in love with the game
No, I think a lot of people will be in love with it
for that one week. Honeymoon phase hits gamers hard and despite a lot of people on gaf acting like they dont buy into the hype, they definitely buy into that first week. Especially if it's first party.
Yeah that's true. Specifically with Arms, the core game is surprisingly fun so that could get people talking about it. But fighting games in general pretty quickly whittle down to the core anyway, and I'm not sure it has the deep mechanics that keep other games going either. We'll see. I also see Splatoon 2 eating its lunch and taking a lot of the userbase even though they're two different types of games
Death Metalist
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Finally, back home. I don't know if a 5 hour trip from Brighton to Derby was that worth it to see Elton John yesterday, but it was a ton of fun. Exhausted. Time to catch up on BITE before Murder Island and I'll save UPF for tomorrow.
Eh for the price it's alright. Average as fuck but alright, I had my fun with it.
I too was disappointed by the ending but I get what they were going for. It could have been executed better BUT the rest of the game is great.
I really enjoyed the 9 or so hours I spent with it back in the day but never got around to finishing it.
Everytime I think that I'm about to hate it, I remember the final scene(those notes)and the implications it leaves us with, makes me feel things. Then I remember why it will forever remain a masterpiece, the last act of the game is insane. For me, I'm only there for the story and characters. I can't wait to see where ND is going to take them in Part 2.
Eh for the price it's alright. Average as fuck but alright, I had my fun with it.
I too was disappointed by the ending but I get what they were going for. It could have been executed better BUT the rest of the game is great.
Truth.
I really enjoyed the 9 or so hours I spent with it back in the day but never got around to finishing it.
Sorry Dan
I just dont think it should be 60 dollars with what its launching with as essentially a new IP with a team that's only made one kind of game for years/decades. 40 would be more than fine but I'm sure hte Nintendo clout and waifus will help carry it to sales on the initial week. I just wonder what the tail will be like. As a Switch game will it last compared to Mario Kart or Splatoon? If a rumored Smash Deluxe comes out, that'd also hurt it. I can't see it taking the Gundam crowd in Japan due to a lack of content and no arcade scene.
I just dont think it should be 60 dollars with what its launching with as essentially a new IP with a team that's only made one kind of game for years/decades. 40 would be more than fine but I'm sure hte Nintendo clout and waifus will help carry it to sales on the initial week. I just wonder what the tail will be like. As a Switch game will it last compared to Mario Kart or Splatoon? If a rumored Smash Deluxe comes out, that'd also hurt it. I can't see it taking the Gundam crowd in Japan due to a lack of content and no arcade scene.
That's a terrible comparison.
People bought a PS4 to play PS4 games. Sure, there are some nostalgic games here and there that I'm sure some people would like to see or play again. And then there's the minority that wants full BC. That's fine too, every consumer is different. And Sony has decided to save the cost and go with what the majority wants. A few PS2 for PS4 titles here and there and that's it. I wonder if their PS Now faux-BC is even worth their investment into server structure right now. But that BC is not the real deal and they could always use those servers for other things in the future.
The guy's statement was about Gran Turismo on PS1 and PS2. Yes, those are ancient graphics nowadays and most people wouldn't even think about buying and playing them again when there's a new GT on the horizon. He didn't even talk about BC in general to begin with. So this whole anger over this statement is based on far less than "Sony hates BC and older ganes".
I'd want to see the revenue BC generates before making such a statement. Yes, Jeff and GB like it because of course they do. And it's a super cool feature. But other than CoD and it mostly seems to be a way to get people to pre-order games or get them digitally so they can get all Gears of War titles on top or promotions like that.
Major Nelson
Spits smooth creamy shit out of his mouth
Influencer, he influences people with his influence
Sorry Dan
I just dont think it should be 60 dollars with what its launching with as essentially a new IP with a team that's only made one kind of game for years/decades. 40 would be more than fine but I'm sure hte Nintendo clout and waifus will help carry it to sales on the initial week. I just wonder what the tail will be like. As a Switch game will it last compared to Mario Kart or Splatoon? If a rumored Smash Deluxe comes out, that'd also hurt it. I can't see it taking the Gundam crowd in Japan due to a lack of content and no arcade scene.
Yeah I can see your point. I think $40 would've been a great sweet spot. But then I look at 1st party new Nintendo IP, releasing right after E3, releasing in a window where there's not games in general but also where a major Switch game hasn't launched in over a month, and waifus, and Nintendo probably saw a chance to sell at $60. And given the relatively successful Testpunch they're probably right, I expect really good first week-two week sales. But yeah like you I want to see how long it'll last. I'm an admitted big Nintendo fan, but I bet if this were releasing in a more crowded time it would be overlooked, and once other games start coming out again people will stop playing it
He's PR mode Reggie (as opposed to Reggie's actual role of COO of NoA)
soundscream
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Ecco the dolphin Scorpio launch title confirmed!
Sounds like early on in last generation, in reverse.
Death Metalist
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The Xbox One is my main console even though I own'em all. It's mostly just preference(like to party chat with friends/family). For me though, I just want games. Specifically new IPs. I hope they don't disappoint.
Don Mattrick really did a number.
And honestly, Phil Spencer comes off as really phony to me. Like a shady used car salesman. He talks a big game, but doesn't really seem to come through.
well there's a chance they are about to mess everything up with the half step garbage and Sony will surely follow them blindly
"If we can't win, everyone loses"
Well the cancelled 2 of the 3 things they had that interested me and if I want to use my Windows Store purchases I'll have to reformat my PC. For the third time. I'll be less cynical if they announce something new, it actually comes out and that I'll be able to ensure my next reformat is the last.
To me feels like 90% of things he said were made true, or made it through. If MS sticks their weird polocies on top of those things is another story. Like he made the PC game promise true, but the Windows store and everything surrounding it makes it feel worthless. But it it's not.
edit: My school English is escaping me today, sorry.
It's funny, that's basically what happened to Giant Bomb in general.
Almost a decade ago, they wouldn't be caught dead without a 360, and the only one who really talked about PC games was Dave and sometimes Vinny.
Now, when was the last time you heard them talk about playing on the Xbox?
Wonder how different it'd be if Ryan was still around. Would he have embraced the PC like the others or stuck to the Xbox or maybe moved fully to Sony?
...Wish we could have known
Friday's UPF is up! Praise Jason!
https://www.giantbomb.com/videos/unprofessional-fridays-06022017/2300-12097/
https://www.giantbomb.com/videos/unprofessional-fridays-06022017/2300-12097/
I don't know if I'd agree. People love the BC, they defend the Game Pass service in the thread about that weird article criticising it.
But announcing Phantom Dust when that game didn't really exist? Cancelling Fable after trying to turn it into a service nobody wanted? Cancelling Scalebound after years of development and by that cancelling Platinum's new game, a developer many people here love and that usually delivers high quality games?
It's not difficult to see why people might be vary on Xbox. And that's on them. It'll take time to build up trust again. That's a challenge every company or brand in every industry has to face.
nckillthegrimace
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It's Jeff's nightmare!
how will we learn playstation's vision without a blowhard pontificating at us
how will we learn playstation's vision without a blowhard pontificating at us
therealminime
Member
Hopefully they can at least make it clear when the fucking VR section has ended.
Maybe I'm gullible but I think Phil Spencer means well and wants to do everything he says. But Microsoft as a whole doesn't really give a shit about Xbox and higher-ups are always shooting down his ideas as either too much money or a waste of effort. He seems like an earnest guy who's handcuffed by bureaucracy
Yeah people rip on Jeff for the whole 2016 conference, but I agree with him for that conference in particular. There was no flow and half the time they'd play one trailer and then start up the next one and I wouldn't realize I was looking at a different game for half the trailer. And the weird VR section in the middle needed someone up there to talk about it.
Dangansona
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"Is the shrine marked by anything? It's one of these people right?"
The map is literally the clearest aspect of this game.
The map is literally the clearest aspect of this game.
Ha, I'm not their biggest fan but people seem to love them. As far as I know I've never really heard bad things about Platinum as a developer from other publishers either. They made Wonderful 101, it tanked horribly and yet they have a solid relationship with Nintendo. I'm sure Platinum has a huge developer network in Japan and the way their deal with MS went must have done thing even worse for them in Japan.
But to go back to the games. I liked Rising and Bayonetta, loved Bayonetta 2, didn't like Wonderful 101 at all.
funkystudent
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I wouldnt worry too much about VR this year.
That shit feels like its already dead.
I should've saved all the posts on the gaming side saying it was literally as big as the transition from 2d to 3d. Those were wild times
That's honestly my biggest question of E3. How much time does Sony devote to VR?
My hope is zero minutes.
OdysseusVA
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I mean, it can't be easy to get the kind of investment you need to make great new exclusives. And even if you did, game development takes years.
The big Sony exclusives so far this year apart from Horizon & MLB were all third party - Yakuza, Nioh, Nier, Persona 5. It's hard to complete with that type of external software support when the Xbox brand is dead in Japan.
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