200? Nah. People would buy that. 200 is too good of a price. It's absolutely horrendous business wise though. Might as well throw money out the window.
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200? Nah. People would buy that. 200 is too good of a price. It's absolutely horrendous business wise though. Might as well throw money out the window.
he does a lot of mugging/selfies/whydoIknowthis
Liquid Shake
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I'm reading through it now. Holy shit, good stuff.
OdysseusVA
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$200 would be an impulse buy, but thats not happening lol
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Death Metalist
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Aww Jeff skipped my "Shadow of the sun" pick haha. That song made that one scene in Collateral so memorable.
Piston Hyundai
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at least he's got Curufinwe on his side
Ok $200 was an exaggeration. But undercutting the Pro isn't going to be enough. If this was the beginning of the gen I'd agree. But at this point Sony is firmly entrenched as the dominant place to play console games, exclusives or multiplatform. Anyone looking for a console will probably go for whatever their friends have, which odds say is a PS4. Sony also has all of those marketing deals for third parties and I don't see MS being able to cut into it when Sony has really positioned themselves in the market. Also, Scorpio/PS4 Pro are niche products for enthusiasts, the general crowd isn't going to care if the Scorpio looks nice, they'll just get the XB1 S. Especially since a lot of people don't have 4K TVs anyway
Mods changed the title too it was originally something like "Waypoint's poorly researched article"
Liquid Shake
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Hahaha. Oh, Piston.
Death Metalist
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Jeff's going to pay the dark price right now.
funkystudent
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Gonna be fascinating to see how MS actually positions the Scorpio.
Being the most expensive and most powerful hasn't been a recipe for success yet.
Even if they go for 399 Sony will undercut them and PS4 pro will be 349 and PS4 standard will be at least 299 if not lower, ala 279. (249 seems too much, it took ages and the cheapest super slim PS3 last gen to hit those prices)
PS4 was just a super rare case where the most powerful console was also the cheapest and power probably played a very small part in its success. MS going all in on POWER!!! just seems like a weird bet.
And yeah. They need fresh 1th party exclusives. MS can always toss money around 3rd parties and get some attention but in the end Titanfall, Tomb Raider and Dead Rising hurt those franchises more then anything. MS needs to invest in first party. They need a new hotness on the level of Gears of War. They need to take one of their A teams and tell them to make something new.
Also gonna be interesting to see how they treat the current XB1 from here on out. Scorpio already feels a bit like a stealth replacement. I guess its gonna depend on sales I guess.
Being the most expensive and most powerful hasn't been a recipe for success yet.
Even if they go for 399 Sony will undercut them and PS4 pro will be 349 and PS4 standard will be at least 299 if not lower, ala 279. (249 seems too much, it took ages and the cheapest super slim PS3 last gen to hit those prices)
PS4 was just a super rare case where the most powerful console was also the cheapest and power probably played a very small part in its success. MS going all in on POWER!!! just seems like a weird bet.
And yeah. They need fresh 1th party exclusives. MS can always toss money around 3rd parties and get some attention but in the end Titanfall, Tomb Raider and Dead Rising hurt those franchises more then anything. MS needs to invest in first party. They need a new hotness on the level of Gears of War. They need to take one of their A teams and tell them to make something new.
Also gonna be interesting to see how they treat the current XB1 from here on out. Scorpio already feels a bit like a stealth replacement. I guess its gonna depend on sales I guess.
I'm not sure they'll fumble Scorpio, but I think Sony will definitely undercut it. That totally fits with Sony's MO in recent E3s. It's the type of ruthlessness that I like. Hell, I'd say Sony cut the PS4 Pro to $350 even if the Scorpio comes in at $500
Death Metalist
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I want MS to succeed. I am rooting for them because there's nothing more I love than some good ass competition. I want MS to get that jab and I want Sony to jab right back which is all beneficial to us consumers in the end. Nintendo doesn't give a fuck because they do their own thing, which is also great.
This wouldn't be a hot mess, it would just be boring.
Liquid Shake
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Yeah totally. I don't own an Xbox One and will probably never buy a Scorpio but I definitely want them to succeed for the sake of competition.
what if I tell you that MS comes out, talks about the scorpio and doubles down on the TV functionalities
funkystudent
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PS4 price drop will probably happen in a few months.
I bet we see it in time for Destiny 2.
Sony has never done price cuts at E3. Doesnt really make sense to cut the price in the dead of summer. Do it when games are back out.
Same. Cutthroat competition is better than what we have now.
I think they are ruthless enough to actually do it right there and then, but who knows
That would be waaaaay more than a fumble
Death Metalist
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Shopping ASMR
200 would be an instabuy for me and I dont even want or need one.
299 is close to that territory for me as well.
399-499 is a no go, ill wait for next gen and use my pc until then.
Antiwhippy
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The last guardian is still pretty rad.
What do you think would be different if there wasn't a clear winner? Sony is still developing a ton of exclusive games out of their studios, MS is still paying a ton of money for deals.
I'm always amused by what people perceive as competition. Competition doesn't just stop or dissappear. It's always there. Even now.
Death Metalist
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Indeed it is.
One company being in the lead doesn't mean there isn't cutthroat competition. It just means consumers made their choice.
Indeed
Death Metalist
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There is but it isn't as intense. We need it to be intense, like it's on fire or someshit. At the moment people talk about playing Xbox One games on PC more than Xbox One.
e: Just to clarify, MS's console should have more weight and sway people. If it does that then Sony would be doing even more to sway people so it's like this back and forth thing of trying to please the consumer as much as possible.
A spot on example of why facts matter more than feelings.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1373448&page=1
Death Metalist
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Shame not many people played TLG but I'm glad a few of you here did. Y'all know what's up.
OdysseusVA
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Patrick getting BTFO
If it wasn't for Japanese devs being stubborn I wouldn't have a ps4
Let it be Sony or MS
The ones on top always fucking sucks
Who the fuck makes a ost exclusive to its console? Or patches? Even for a certain amount of time it's so dumb, ms or sony
Exclusivity is a business sure, but the posters in this forum that talk highly of it and are like "OH THIS IS A BIG GET FOR SO AND SO" are fucking weirdos, it's literally a negative for people who play games
Not to mention everyone having a sub a to play online now lol and sometimes they up the price and give no actual reason why lul
Let it be Sony or MS
The ones on top always fucking sucks
Who the fuck makes a ost exclusive to its console? Or patches? Even for a certain amount of time it's so dumb, ms or sony
Exclusivity is a business sure, but the posters in this forum that talk highly of it and are like "OH THIS IS A BIG GET FOR SO AND SO" are fucking weirdos, it's literally a negative for people who play games
Not to mention everyone having a sub a to play online now lol and sometimes they up the price and give no actual reason why lul
That completely misses the point of the article. Bulk stats like that are worthless because it's propped up by Sony announcing stuff like Bound, Knack, Infamous, etc. That article is talking about the showstoppers that Sony has announced recently that are all barely past the conceptual stage.A spot on example of why facts matter more than feelings.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1373448&page=1
To drive the point home, take FFVIIR and Shenmue 3 out of Sony's E3 2015 conference. That conference is now good, not "Year of Dreams" "Best conference ever". And that's the point. Sony consistently makes these massive fan wet dream announcements to take their (already good) press conferences over the top and get lavished with praise, even though those games barely exist. It's fine, E3 is all about the marketing, but it's also fair to call that tactic out.
I still dont understand the appeal of the Scorpio
Going by its components, that things not going to be much cheaper than a good PC that can play all that shit and more. If you're someone who cares about 'constantly upgrading your console' guess what? They got one of those. It's called a personal computer. And it doesnt charge you to matchmake on it
Going by its components, that things not going to be much cheaper than a good PC that can play all that shit and more. If you're someone who cares about 'constantly upgrading your console' guess what? They got one of those. It's called a personal computer. And it doesnt charge you to matchmake on it
PCs still make people feel weird for some reason. Like that's too 'high-tech' or something. Plus most of them probably already have a laptop that they like just fine
TLG and Horizon were both announced at E3 2015, plus there was an extensive game play demo of Uncharted 4. Even without FF7 and Shenmue Sony's E3 was fantastic.
They also had the announcement of Hitman, which I hear turned out to be pretty good.
funkystudent
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Scorpio will be 399. Thats a decent price for what it is.
And its 2017. No one but nerdy ass nerds buy desktop PC's let alone build gaming PCs.
Twin Tails
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Meanwhile, League of Legends has 100 million monthly players.
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