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Giant Bomb |OT31| I Think it Might Be for Show
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Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Having not followed any TP S3 discussion at all, just answer me this: Is it good?
Sleeping Lesson
Member
It's so fucking good.
Human Trashcan
Banned
The answer depends entirely on how much you like Lynch being 100% Lynch. I find huge swathes of it boring as sin and frustrating but there's just enough there to keep me interested.
If I want to catch up by the finale I'm basically going to be watching an episode or two a night (the former was my pace for the original anyway), so that's good to hear.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Now I just need to figure out a way to watch it here...
AuthenticM
Member
I wish they would play the game to completion.
Given how rapid Lynch fans are, at least the once I know, and how little talk there has been since the first ep I'm guessing it's meh at best.
I didn't even know this was a Playdate and I guess I need to watch it now.
Piston Hyundai
Member
man, of all the games they never went back to, I think SMB2J might hurt the most
it gets so much worse and could lead to some incredible moments
it gets so much worse and could lead to some incredible moments
She was just trying to gift magic powers to Frodo and Sam, not trying to eat them, dear me no.
Better than the second half of last week.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
To be fair.
Did anyone really expect that series to be faithful to tolkien after the first game.
Did anyone really expect that series to be faithful to tolkien after the first game.
wait what
Human Trashcan
Banned
glad that shadow of war went from the first game's "this is dumb fanwank but whatever" to "exceptionally stupid" without missing a beat
Yeah, as someone who thought "Inland Empire" was a terrible, self-indulgent movie, I'm not sure the "pure heroin version of David Lynch" that Showtime bragged about is something I want. Or rather, I'm CERTAIN it's not as satisfying to me as a Lynch who is working within certain constraints. Also, this series is almost entirely devoid of the warmth and humanity that I always felt made Twin Peaks special within the mystery/horror genre. I realise that's very much an artistic choice but it's not one I've enjoyed much.
With that being said, it will be interesting going back sometime and rewatching "The Return" over a shorter span of time.
stump sock
Member
Or maybe it's basically impossible to talk about without spoilers so people just keep it to dedicated outlets for talking about it?
Death Metalist
Member
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Well that's a rather valueless assessment now isn't it?
Not to mention whenever it is brought up (in here or elsewhere) people are pretty glowing.
I enjoyed the first but the Nemesis system literally fell apart for me by the end and every time someone praises it as amazing I wish I had the same experience.
Was it just that I did all the side stuff before beating the game or something? Because I think me perma-killing orcs more often than not didn't have anything to do with that. Like if there was literally a clear "hey maybe don't cut his fucking head off so he'll do the coming back as a rival thing" button I would have pressed that instead but instead Lordy McRings decided he had to go all in so.
With the Shelob stuff alone it seems they're doing weird stuff with lore this time and the thing is: I don't care about the lore (I read the books in, what, middle school? and never saw the movies) so it's not that they're messing with it as much as I'd rather they just... not get into that too much?
also spiders suck
Every time people/friends I follow on Twitter mention it they seem like they're very into it, so I'm looking forward to it as a result. The mention here of a lack of heart is a little disappointing since I valued that as well, but I'm just interested in going along for the ride.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Human Trashcan
Banned
I think it still has that warmth but it spreads itself very thin at times so it's harder to get invested in the characters. But in terms of cinematography and pacing it definitely has adopted a VERY different aesthetic from the original. That played mostly off of soap opera tropes, whereas this feels more like a warped version of modern "prestige" drama (god i hate that term). It lacks the focus and clarity of the original show imo.
LurkerPrime
Member
Piston Hyundai
Member
Despite being a Tolkien nerd I could look past the liberties they took with Shadow of Mordor. It was largely pretty harmless and wasn't messing with the central canon. I was also interested to see how they would deal with a powerful character like end-game Talion existing in that universe (spoiler alert: they didn't)
But the sequel has things like a new Ring, sexy Shelob, and now character motivation retcons so really Monolith might as well take a shit on top of Tolkien's grave while they're at it.
But the sequel has things like a new Ring, sexy Shelob, and now character motivation retcons so really Monolith might as well take a shit on top of Tolkien's grave while they're at it.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I hear that brad is really into Spider ladies.
Piston Hyundai
Member
Agents of Mayhem is insane because it's a Volition game that feels like a parody of a parody of themselves
Karspankey
Banned
There's a limit that they crossed pretty hard. For the first game it was fine because they were creating a new character and made up a bunch of stuff that would never happen in the actual world, but it's a new character and the story isn't important so whatever.
But with this, they've not only taken a grotesque spider and made her into a sexy lady, their justification for it is just deception. It's bad enough that they're changing characters so drastically and doing a bunch of shit to the lore, but I could get past that. For me, the issue is that they they're literally lying to people. They're saying this very established character that's only defining characteristic is she's a big spider that eats anything that comes into her lair actually has all these depths and motivations, and then made some shit up about Galadriel planned all this out. They're saying things we definitively know isn't true just to avoid saying "We wanted to put a sexy titty lady in our game because it'll sell". They should've just said they wanted a female major character in the story and this was the best idea they had
All I'm saying is so many people went mental hearing about the return of Twin Peaks, online and real life, and now the buzz seems to be gone. I'm on another forum dedicated to TV/Film and a thread about American Gods has over x3 of replies to the Twin Peaks thread. People I know that would consider Lynch to be their fav. filmmaker have not said a single word about the show.
There is nothing wrong with people liking the show, I was just expecting it to be a big deal instead of a headline for a day.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
If that's the case they came up with a really convoluted way to get to their best way of including a female character.
Eh i dunno, I wasn't a huge tolkiennite even though i enjoyed the books, so i can kind of dismiss this as an extension of the fanfiction wank of the first game.
Also helps that i have no interest in the series at all other than observing it.
I mean they already showed the game with gacha orcs.
Eh i dunno, I wasn't a huge tolkiennite even though i enjoyed the books, so i can kind of dismiss this as an extension of the fanfiction wank of the first game.
Also helps that i have no interest in the series at all other than observing it.
I mean they already showed the game with gacha orcs.
Ya I wanna fuck this game too