Vanilla XCOM 2 already felt pretty long for me, but maybe that's because I was stalling a bit. With the added mission types like Rescue/Ambush, it should change up the pace enough so that it feels varied while also increasing play time. I'm also spending more time in the meta game trying to decide what to do with my 500 different options. Liking the game quite a bit so far, the bond/training stuff has been my favorite addition
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Giant Bomb |OT31| I Think it Might Be for Show
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Vanilla XCOM 2 already felt pretty long for me, but maybe that's because I was stalling a bit. With the added mission types like Rescue/Ambush, it should change up the pace enough so that it feels varied while also increasing play time. I'm also spending more time in the meta game trying to decide what to do with my 500 different options. Liking the game quite a bit so far, the bond/training stuff has been my favorite addition
Edge Magazine: The 100 Greatest Videogames 2017 Edition
1. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
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How was the Bombcast?
NumberThree
Member
How was the Bombcast?
Shit gets real for a while at the start in a way Bombcast usually doesn't.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
that list is a bad list because it lists MGSV but no other MGS game which were more influential
I can safely say
That list is shit and wrong.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Yeah but in 2017 I'd rather actually play MGSV over any of the others.that list is a bad list because it lists MGSV but no other MGS game which were more influential
I can safely say
That list is shit and wrong.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Yeah but in 2017 I'd rather actually play MGSV over any of the others.
would you
would you really
I mean they have 'Her story' in that list and that has nonexistent gameplay, so obviously their standards aren't rigidly set towards the gameplay of a video game.
it's a bad list.
Rickenslacker
Banned
YES, YES I WOULD REALLYwould you
would you really
I mean they have 'Her story' in that list and that has nonexistent gameplay, so obviously their standards aren't rigidly set towards the gameplay of a video game.
it's a bad list.
I mean I'd also play Rising at any opportunity, but that's not an MGS.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
YES, YES I WOULD REALLY
I mean I'd also play Rising at any opportunity, but that's not an MGS.
that fair
You monster.Yeah but in 2017 I'd rather actually play MGSV over any of the others.
NumberThree
Member
Except they don't care about how influential the games are:that list is a bad list because it lists MGSV but no other MGS game which were more influential
(I'd rather play 2 or 3, but I don't work at Edge)each game had to stand up today rather than making the cut for reasons of nostalgia or historic significance
I appreciate MGS V as basically the perfect toolkit for an open world action/stealth game. But my god was I bored playing it.I'd easily rather play MGS V over the others. Game is just so goddamn good to cruise around and abduct people and I really do adore the other MGS games. V just plays on another level.
Piston Hyundai
Member
Except they don't care about how influential the games are:
I can't help but call bullshit on that one. If they didn't care about how influential or historically relevant the games are, why is Tetris-ass Tetris on the list instead of something like Tetris DS? What could they possibly say to justify the presence of the original Bomberman, which doesn't even have multiplayer?
I don't normally care too much about the minutia of top 100 lists that aren't my own, but if you think about some of the entries for two seconds, you realize they don't belong.
that list is a bad list because it lists MGSV but no other MGS game which were more influential
I can safely say
That list is shit and wrong.
The list is explicitly about the best games to play now with very little significance placed on historical significance.
It's still got some garbage on there though.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Edge should have released a podcast where they deliberated their top 100 list.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Well MGS1 is still really good, but V is just so much more fun to mess around in. Then you have 2 which has added systems that mostly just work on the first game's framework but slow things down considerably with body moving and clumsy first person aim stuff. Most of the game being comprised of moving through Big Shell's simplistic hexagonal geometry isn't something I want to go back to either. MGS3 is alright, but again, it's very clumsy and overwrought with systems and mechanics; all the menu dicking, needing to use the d-pad just to sneak, the analog CQC stuff, can't go back to it. MGS4 stops being a game after the first two acts. Peace Walker is just a significantly worse version of V tailored for co-op and I couldn't get myself to finish it.You monster.
Twin Tails
Member
the battlegrounds mode in GTAO could be cool if they flesh it out even more
https://youtu.be/htpSvDdE4cw?t=931
https://youtu.be/htpSvDdE4cw?t=931
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Well MGS1 is still really good, but V is just so much more fun to mess around in. Then you have 2 which has added systems that mostly just work on the first game's framework but slow things down considerably with body moving and clumsy first person aim stuff. Most of the game being comprised of moving through Big Shell's simplistic hexagonal geometry isn't something I want to go back to either. MGS3 is alright, but again, it's very clumsy and overwrought with systems and mechanics; all the menu dicking, needing to use the d-pad just to sneak, the analog CQC stuff, can't go back to it. MGS4 stops being a game after the first two acts. Peace Walker is just a significantly worse version of V tailored for co-op and I couldn't get myself to finish it.
But 2 actually has a story that I care about.
Well MGS1 is still really good, but V is just so much more fun to mess around in. Then you have 2 which has added systems that mostly just work on the first game's framework but slow things down considerably with body moving and clumsy first person aim stuff. Most of the game being comprised of moving through Big Shell's simplistic hexagonal geometry isn't something I want to go back to either. MGS3 is alright, but again, it's very clumsy and overwrought with systems and mechanics; all the menu dicking, needing to use the d-pad just to sneak, the analog CQC stuff, can't go back to it. MGS4 stops being a game after the first two acts. Peace Walker is just a significantly worse version of V tailored for co-op and I couldn't get myself to finish it.
Oh wait, I misread. I though you meant MGS V oder any other game in 2017.
Rickenslacker
Banned
I just can't get past those cutscenes after a first watch through. Instant skip every replay. Haven't seen any of MGS2's since 2001 but it did absolutely blow my 14 year old mind at the time.But 2 actually has a story that I care about.
Oh, haha. Yeah I'd definitely be a monster then. Prey is just too good, and I just got a Switch so I need to set aside some 200 hours to see what this Breath of the Wild is all about.Oh wait, I misread. I though you meant MGS V oder any other game in 2017.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
That's the thing really, do I care more about having a fun system to mess around in for a metal gear game, or do I care more about the story? Story for me, but I can see people's point in V in a purely gameplay sense.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Except they don't care about how influential the games are:
(I'd rather play 2 or 3, but I don't work at Edge)
THEN HOW DID HER STORY MAKE IT
IT'S A CLICHE STORY
IT HAS NO GAMEPLAY
WHAT MERITS DOES IT HAVE
NONE AT ALL
They can't say they based the list on gameplay
They can't say they based the list on influence
They can't say they based the list on any metrics
It's a shit list
Atleast the Stanley Parable has some gameplay that doesn't involve watching FMVs
the battlegrounds mode in GTAO could be cool if they flesh it out even more
https://youtu.be/htpSvDdE4cw?t=931
they should remove the aspect of being able to see where the enemy teams are
But I guess with what..30ish people it's necessary?
THEN HOW DID HER STORY MAKE IT
IT'S A CLICHE STORY
IT HAS NO GAMEPLAY
WHAT MERITS DOES IT HAVE
NONE AT ALL
They can't say they based the list on gameplay
They can't say they based the list on influence
They can't say they based the list on any metrics
It's a shit list
Atleast the Stanley Parable has some gameplay that doesn't involve watching FMVs
BOTW is #1 and Mario Galaxy higher than many other shittier games (still too low though).
List not shit confirmed.
Piston Hyundai
Member
BOTW is #1 and Mario Galaxy higher than many other shittier games (still too low though).
List not shit confirmed.
Make a case for Puyo Puyo being on the list.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
See if only they would release a podcast where they discussed about how the list is made, then nobody would have any reason to complain about their selection and be completely fine with it.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
BOTW is #1 and Mario Galaxy higher than many other shittier games (still too low though).
List not shit confirmed.
Yeah Zelda:Ubisoft the Game and Mario Boringalaxy made it, good job list, bravo.
I appreciate MGS V as basically the perfect toolkit for an open world action/stealth game. But my god was I bored playing it.
120 hours in it and I have the oang to go back. Only reason I stopped was due to other games.
This is some low quality bait. Still made me chuckle. 🤗Yeah Zelda:Ubisoft the Game and Mario Boringalaxy made it, good job list, bravo.
I wish I felt that way. The highs in that game are amazing.120 hours in it and I have the oang to go back. Only reason I stopped was due to other games.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
The fact that they don't have God Hand as the no. 1 game of all tuime means that their list is a fraud anyway.
Make a case for Puyo Puyo being on the list.
I mean, Far Cry 4 is on the list and you want to come at Puyo Puyo?
NumberThree
Member
I can't help but call bullshit on that one. If they didn't care about how influential or historically relevant the games are, why is Tetris-ass Tetris on the list instead of something like Tetris DS? What could they possibly say to justify the presence of the original Bomberman, which doesn't even have multiplayer?
I don't normally care too much about the minutia of top 100 lists that aren't my own, but if you think about some of the entries for two seconds, you realize they don't belong.
True, it is a bit weird in that sense. They do have Pac-Man CE and not the original Pac-Man, so clearly they're not opposed to including an "improved" version. It would be interesting to read the entire thing, but I can't find it as a digital/ereader version so I doubt I will.
Because the staff at Edge think it's a good video game?THEN HOW DID HER STORY MAKE IT
IT'S A CLICHE STORY
IT HAS NO GAMEPLAY
WHAT MERITS DOES IT HAVE
NONE AT ALL
They can't say they based the list on gameplay
They can't say they based the list on influence
They can't say they based the list on any metrics
And I agree.
Of course it's not based on a singular metric, that would be silly.
I mean, Far Cry 4 is on the list and you want to come at Puyo Puyo?
Batman Arkham Knight is on there too
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Breezy "PUBG is the most original and best game ever" Limbo is mad.
Wow Der "I can't get a chicken dinner to save my life" Feef making up facts about me yet again
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I've kinda soured on the Batman games but i still do appreciate how tight asylum was compared to the rest of the series.
Piston Hyundai
Member
I mean, Far Cry 4 is on the list and you want to come at Puyo Puyo?
Puyo Puyo and Bomberman are the games on that list that come closest to being made literally obsolete by their successors.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Puyo Puyo and Bomberman are the games on that list that come closest to being made literally obsolete by their successors.
And then you have literal Shit like MGSV that makes it on the list over MGS1 or MGS2 which mastered storytelling in video games.
The list is inconsistent and bad. My crap would have a better selection of games than that list.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Please stay tuned for my best 101 games of all time list, which will consist entirely of 90's cRPGs and obscure eastern european games you casuals have never heard of.
NumberThree
Member
Please stay tuned for my best 101 games of all time list, which will consist entirely of 90's cRPGs and obscure eastern european games you casuals have never heard of.
Do you mean B-games?
And then you have literal Shit like MGSV that makes it on the list over MGS1 or MGS2 which mastered storytelling in video games.
The list is inconsistent and bad. My crap would have a better selection of games than that list.
You must really be into scat to call the best MGS literal shit. Let it rain down on you, brother.
Puyo Puyo and Bomberman are the games on that list that come closest to being made literally obsolete by their successors.
Ah, thought it was shade on the game as a whole. Puyo Puyo didn't really change all that much and I can see people preferring the simplicity of the original Bomberman over some of the crazier powerup and dinosaur shit we got. Tetris over Tetris DS I can't see though.
Then again, without seeing the write ups on some of these entries, we're kind of guessing.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
V is the only mgs dan doesn't consider a masterpiece.
DAN.
DAN.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
BreezyLimbo
Banned
V is the only mgs dan doesn't consider a masterpiece.
DAN.
SERIOUSLY
AND DAN IS THE ONE WHO THROWS MASTERPIECE AROUND LIKE IT'S CANDY
V is the only mgs dan doesn't consider a masterpiece.
DAN.
Easily making it the most masterpiece, going against Dan. He doesn't even like Yakuza.
I'd go so far as to call it the Chris Masters of gaming
a pre-emptive shut up to Piston Hyundai for his response to this statement.
NumberThree
Member
V is the only mgs dan doesn't consider a masterpiece.
DAN.
That's a ringing endorsement if I've ever heard one
Rickenslacker
Banned
Did you say "nerd"?