I played Resident Evil 1 sometime last year. It was perfectly fine.
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I played Resident Evil 1 sometime last year. It was perfectly fine.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Then by this logic, all combat in games prior to 98' was poor.
This was some of the best back then.
Well, they were 2D... and here we are speaking about the beginings of 3D.
N
Noray
Unconfirmed Member
RE2 controls hold up just fine imo, it's a slow-paced game. MGS controls don't hold up for newcomers, but as someone who's played it loads, I can still easily go back to it.
TheTylerRob
Member
I can't believe the thread is siding with Drew on this. Like, have you been watching? Game isn't "poorly designed"
How can you possibly think it's the games fault when the game is widely regarded as a classic. It's not like all other games were terrible back then or something. Drew is just bad.
Poorly balanced melee boss fights in a game not designed for melee combat = the game's fault
A tedious vehicle section to cap off the whole affair with bullet sponge enemies and an unkillable boss = the game's fault
Jimmyfenix
Member
I can play RE2 and MGS fine in 2014, but I have huuuuge issues going back to Tomb Raider 2 for some reason.
My hands don't know how to work when I play the old tomb raider games now.
tryagainlater
Member
I love Jason.
I love Jason.
Jason is Metal Gear Scanlon's MVP, especially today.
This is definitely one of those great games where being there helps it. There was nothing at all like MGS when it came out. It was a moment in gaming.
Yep. I think you had to be there. In 1998 every single thing about this game was mindblowing because it was all new. Interesting study of perspectives here. I think more modern eyes that never played this game at the time wouldn't understand the epicness of the final sequences, since epic set pieces are a dime a dozen in nearly every AAA game now.
SteveWinwood
Member
yesResident evil 2 is a classic. Plays like shit now.
Tomb raider 2 is a classic. Plays like shit now.
Metal gear solid is a classic. Plays like shit now.
yes
lol no
Zombie James
Banned
Man, my 14-year-old self never had this many problems.
tryagainlater
Member
Poorly balanced melee boss fights in a game not designed for melee combat = the game's fault
A tedious vehicle section to cap off the whole affair with bullet sponge enemies and an unkillable boss = the game's fault
In all fairness, Drew is dying more than anyone ever has at this game. Clearly, some fault lies with him.
petethepanda
Member
"Oh, Metal Gear."
Sorry, but a game where you don't use first person once in combat gets you to use it in the final section...That is batshit poor design. I thought that when I first played it when I was freaking 8 too.
I never used first person in that section. I didn't even know it was an option.
nckillthegrimace
Member
Sorry, but a game where you don't use first person once in combat gets you to use it in the final section...That is batshit poor design. I thought that when I first played it when I was freaking 8 too.
You use first person in combat to fire other heavy weapons like the stinger and the sniper rifle. It's perfectly consistent.
TheTylerRob
Member
Poorly balanced melee boss fights in a game not designed for melee combat = the game's fault
A tedious vehicle section to cap off the whole affair with bullet sponge enemies and an unkillable boss = the game's fault
Bruh, melee boss fight is the most balanced thing in the game lol. The vehicle part was never good, but also Drew is bad.
Zombie James
Banned
He got the extra ration and he's doing worse now.
AuthenticM
Member
How is Drew hitting the X button so many times ? I mean, Christ, does he keep his thumb over it ? That's not even the default button...
No it's not. This is the first and only time when the player can shoot while manually entering first-person mode with the triangle button. If you try with any other weapon, it does not work. You can't fault someone for not knowing or even trying this at the last section when the game conditionned him to not do that.
You use first person in combat to fire other heavy weapons like the stinger and the sniper rifle. It's perfectly consistent.
No it's not. This is the first and only time when the player can shoot while manually entering first-person mode with the triangle button. If you try with any other weapon, it does not work. You can't fault someone for not knowing or even trying this at the last section when the game conditionned him to not do that.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I can't believe the thread is siding with Drew on this. Like, have you been watching? Game isn't "poorly designed"
No, however, it's clunky. You cannot defend that. It's definitely clunky. MGS2 is a huuuge step up.
You use first person in combat to fire other heavy weapons like the stinger and the sniper rifle. It's perfectly consistent.
Guess so. Still, I think that Drew has made this way harder than it should be but to say that MGS1's combat is great is just silly. (hence the improvements in later iterations)
If you've played MGS a bunch of times over and over, then of course the combat is easy.
Jimmyfenix
Member
I am also a person that prefers mgs 2 gameplay over 3.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
In all fairness, Drew is dying more than anyone ever has at this game. Clearly, some fault lies with him.
I agree, specially in that Rex boss fight. Still, some stuff has not aged well at all.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
I also finished that jeep section twice before I found out about first person-ing it. It's totally doable.
I wouldn't use Drew's playthrough of the game to judge its "game design" too. He makes it look 10x worse than it is. And Drew brings up a good point, this is all to show the reaction of someone who never played this game in 2014. I think Drew's reaction might actually be the common reaction of an average 2014 gamer, who is now very used to a modern controls.
Dragon Puncher
Member
Resident evil 2 is a classic. Plays like shit now.
Tomb raider 2 is a classic. Plays like shit now.
Metal gear solid is a classic. Plays like shit now.
Nope. They all play perfectly fine (Tomb Raider can be a little rough at times), but they require you to let go of your 2010+ gaming mindset, which is something Drew has a real hard time with.
Dunno how close to the screen he is, but in general he over shoots most things while aiming or moving around.I feel like drew is swinging too wildly with the turret
EDIT: DAYLIGHT!
Zombie James
Banned
WOW.
The Dutch Slayer
Member
Yessss and we are done
nckillthegrimace
Member
time for the second fist fight
Jimmyfenix
Member
That is the end of metal gear videos on gb. I don't think 2 will happen anytime soon.
time for the second fist fight
And then the stinger fight with the bombers.
TheTylerRob
Member
......They're stealth
Jimmyfenix
Member
Yup liquid > solidus and solid
The Dutch Slayer
Member
Ow it will happen but drew goes on vacation for a few weeks first + full review season is on now less time.
nckillthegrimace
Member
I always thought the cartoonishly sinister secretary of defense would come back in a later game.