War Peaceman
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Even as someone who strongly dislikes Bethesda games, Shivering Isles was cool because it was fucking weird
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Even as someone who strongly dislikes Bethesda games, Shivering Isles was cool because it was fucking weird
It better fucking be since it's the realm of Sheogorath.
Morrowind and Shivering Isles are the high points of TES for me. The Dragonborn expansion in Skyrim was cool, but it didn't have that same charm. The last quest was so buggy I had to load a save from several hours before, which really killed the whole thing for me.
Twin Tails
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The commissioner ain't gonna be happy.
well lurking that site that must not be named led me to find this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiWk5T6BgQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiWk5T6BgQQ
yep, that was a thing
I thought his comments were spot on.
Antiwhippy
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What was the other UPF that tim was on?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Man.
I forgot.
I forgot about life before Drew grew his hair and beard out.
Dark times back then.
Maklershed
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Duders, I need your help. I asked this in the PSN thread but to no avail ..
I'm looking for open environment PS4 or XB1 games without a lot of controls. I want to find some games my 4 year old niece can help me with. We've had success so far with Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, Rocket League, and Grow Home. Conversely, Zen Pinball and Lego Marvel Avengers (too many controls) have been a failure.
Also, Disney Infinity 3.0 is on sale on PSN right now - do I need physical toys for that or can I get by with just whatever that digital item is?
I'm looking for open environment PS4 or XB1 games without a lot of controls. I want to find some games my 4 year old niece can help me with. We've had success so far with Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, Rocket League, and Grow Home. Conversely, Zen Pinball and Lego Marvel Avengers (too many controls) have been a failure.
Also, Disney Infinity 3.0 is on sale on PSN right now - do I need physical toys for that or can I get by with just whatever that digital item is?
It's disappointing that he focuses so much on the loudest people crying. To those, who care maybe too much, it's actually sensible advice, but that's a minority.
I noticed him doing this more and more. Like, yeah, the internet is terrible for outrage, but sometimes there's actually a discussion at the bottom and I actually go to GB to get away from the toxic BS.
He posted more on tumblr
http://jeff.zone/post/140050973141/if-i-could-snap-my-fingers-and-learn-japanese-i
http://jeff.zone/post/140061133756/i-encourage-you-not-to-fall-into-the-trap-of
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Maklershed
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Watching UPF - Tommy Tallarico and Victor Lucas! Ah the feels.
Well she's probably smarter than me so she could probably help figure those out.
Well she's probably smarter than me so she could probably help figure those out.
Flower and Journey
duder's not wrong tbh
i mean... if you're saying "oh, the localisers localised this the wrong way" but you don't know japanese, what leg are you standing on exactly? another localiser's...
on the other hand, any thought that begins with BACK IN MY DAY sends up red flags automatically
i mean... if you're saying "oh, the localisers localised this the wrong way" but you don't know japanese, what leg are you standing on exactly? another localiser's...
on the other hand, any thought that begins with BACK IN MY DAY sends up red flags automatically
Yes Journey. I also think Chariot (co-op) could work, if that 2D plane is an open environment.
If I remember correctly, only the PC version of Infinity doesn't need physical figures and has them as DLC.
Bubble Metropolis
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Most of the people complaining about localizations are the very people who can't experience the game in its original format on their own and thus rely on the localizations? The people that complain about the thing are the people that want/need the thing?
Wow.
The problem isn't that they need the localisation. The problem is that they feel compelled to say they're missing something but often have no idea how true that is, whether it's true at all, or even if it matters.
The people who do understand Japanese and think Treehouse is going about it the wrong way have a better leg to stand on, but the people relying off their translations to be outraged are themselves relying on yet another localisation, so that's kind of weird, yeah? If they don't trust the Treehouse, why do they trust the others over them? Is it because they know what they're reading, or because they have an idea about what the source material is that they believe it to be?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Cultural context does matter also. Maybe not for something where the appeal is to be japanese as fuck like what xseed deals in, but for nintendo they are trying to make games for a global audience.
Of course we shouldn't want a 4kids situation, but eh, I understand why some things translate well but why some things just don't. Whether you think that they've made the right decision is entirely up to you. They've made their bet and it's not inherently incorrect.
Of course we shouldn't want a 4kids situation, but eh, I understand why some things translate well but why some things just don't. Whether you think that they've made the right decision is entirely up to you. They've made their bet and it's not inherently incorrect.
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Noray
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The start of this UPF is basically the good part of Demo Derby. I'm alright with this.
Sonic 2 was the last good Sonic game.
Sonic 2 was the last good Sonic game.
Maklershed
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I'm always nostalgic for the 90s til I watch a Demo Derby or something like that Electric Playground video and then I'm grossed out by it. 'Extreme!' everything, fish eye lenses, pleather, long hair, graffiti-esque text, etc. Still love watching that stuff though.
and right after, they should start their music podcast by listening to Turbo Grafx 16.
Yeah, the 90s was the worst in many ways.
I agree with Jeff's comment about learning Japanese if you (general you) cared so much (that was Jeff who said that right?). ANY translation, no matter how faithful to the source language, will lose meaning. Translation is an inherently lossy process because languages are complicated and not 1:1 and also take into account cultural and historical context that can be easily missed without immersion.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
TheMrPliskin
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Totally, some stuff has to end up being changed during the course of localisation because it might not play in other territories, it might be nice if a company didn't have to do this but it makes total sense why they would.
one of my all time favorite clips
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It came up again looking up random giantbomb clips and now I can't get the fucking song out of my head.
Again.
Again.
i mean 4kids wasn't all that bad, even as a current one piece reader who watched a bit of the 4kids one when it was airing here got turned off for like years and finally came back to it, I can admit they came up with the best piece of music in a while
lyrical genius
Also people still sing it to this day
Death Metalist
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That was hilarious. It also reminds me that there aren't many things better than watching Brad losing it.
looking through the list of coktel games, I think I want a playdate for urban runner
stump sock
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For yakuza 5 they changed the quiz show questions to something Westerners should be able to answer. I demand a retranslation and the head of gio corsi.
Glitchesarecool
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Then wait for a fan translation if it matters that much to you. Otherwise read about the changes elsewhere, say "oh isn't that an interesting divergence," and move on. Localization is fucking hard work man, and my understanding is that the changes made weren't even that important. It's just one of those internet flash-in-the-pan outrages.
you're obviously not interested in the purity of artistic intent and direction you plebe
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Boy I sure wish I can be outraged at the localisation.
You know, because then I can have the game to see what the localisation is.
Right, NoE?
You know, because then I can have the game to see what the localisation is.
Right, NoE?
it's not about the writing for the people that are complaining. like jintor said, they don't speak japanese so as long as it sounds halfway acceptable
anyway, i say this just as an observation about the vocal minority, i don't have an opinion on face-touching either way
actually, i do. unless we're romantically involved, please don't touch my face
oh my god i can't fucking breath
exactly.
though i hope they don't mess with the treehouse localisation for pal release. Not because for some purity of japanese story reasons, but because i still remember that advance wars dark conflict (PAL version of AW4) was absolute boring shit compared to days of ruin (US version). Splatoon too, to a lesser extent.
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