I think you're missing the point in that just because someone else made a terrible post doesn't mean you should do the same in response. Sorry I didn't specifically quote that other poster? It doesn't make your original post any less hyperbolic though, just because it was in response to another bad post. If you had made this kind of post earlier, didn't even have to be as detailed, but something more than a blanket statement, I wouldn't have picked out your quote.
Your condescending post was equally as bad as the others. You didn't point out why Skyrim wasn't bad in any regard or why Saints wasn't good. Further still going out of your way to highlight people responding to the original post yet avoiding the one that started it all shows you're not actually making a point of people making hyperbolic posts, just that a game you like can't be shit for no specified reason. Which is much like people responding to that fist post not liking when somebody said their game was shit for no specified reason.
"Hey guys, Saints Row is my favorite game of the year! I just absolutely love it! I haven't played Skyrim. I'm not even going to argue for Saints Row for one second; Skyrim is the game of the year."
Really disappointing final hour of the podcast.
Ryan: We cut Deus Ex Human Revolution.
Patrick: Yea, I agree
Ryan: Yea, there it is bitch...
ROFL, good lord. Ryan kills me sometimes. XD
I'm kinda surprised the choice is getting so much controversy here.
Saints Row 3 was fantastic with its story and writing but it was so scaled back from Saints Row II. Less Clothing, less weapons, less customizing. Then you have all this cool stuff coming out as DLC right after release making it look very suspicious.
In the end the games feels kinda rushed and lacking and while I enjoyed it for what it was, I can see why Skyrim should win instead.
edit: actually, can I ask to anyone who listened to their final dilberations, did they at least bring up the whole Skyrim PS3 thing? did they say why that didn't factor into their decision?
I don't think it's necessarily the actual winner that has people talking, so much as how it came to be that way, for two reasons.
Reason 1) 3 of the 5 participants picked game A as their Game of the Year. 2 of the 5 picked game B. Game B wins.
Reason 2) Brad has the most obnoxious method of "debate" among the Giant Bomb crew. Sorry Brad, I like you most of the time, but every year on these game of the Year discussions, at least one, and usually several categories come down to Brad digging in his heels, sticking his fingers in his ears and refusing to concede any point while the others are able to separate themselves from the fray and actually consider both sides.
In addition, he has a tendency to throw out nonsense argument after nonsense argument, knowing that if he throws out 4 of them and the others immediately reject one, that the other 3 usually go unckecked.
That's not really the case though or Skyrim wouldn't have won. The only reason it won was because Ryan chose to side with Skyrim instead of Saints Row. It was basically Brad & Patrick debating for Skyrim and Jeff & Vinny debating for Saints Row. Ryan was the tiebreaker and a PLOT TWIST happened.
I don't think you can call ANY game shit for no specified reason. I saw 3 posts making the same short comments about Skyrim and picked them out. I don't see whats so hard to understand about that. The difference being that my comment was shitting on the hyperbolic posts, not throwing comments around about either of the games.
That's not really the case though or Skyrim wouldn't have won. The only reason it won was because Ryan chose to side with Skyrim instead of Saints Row. It was basically Brad & Patrick debating for Skyrim and Jeff & Vinny debating for Saints Row. Ryan was the tiebreaker and a PLOT TWIST happened.
ArjanN said:I kinda felt Ryan only did that to make the discussion more interesting. If Ryan had stood by his own top 10 list the discussion would have been over before it started and Skyrim would have stood no chance.
I don't know why it's hard for you to understand that they only existed because of the original shot at Saints row that they responded to in an identical fashion, and that you post was bias because you totally omitted that original post. I don't understand how you managed to miss the post that most of them quoted unless you weren't motivated by you disdain towards "hyperbolic" post in general, but because those posts were directed towards a game you like.
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I can see that, but it baffles me why if it was just for the sake of discussion why he didn't just do a fake "oh! Jeff and Vinny your argument has won me back over, I'm back on the SR3 train!" If it was purely for the sake of letting a discussion take place.
I really think it's because there was an underlying "we can't let that dumb game win" feeling for at least a couple of them. It's too bad, because I think they let a boring, bad game win instead, because it "should." It's a lingering problem for most of the games press, but this is particularly disappointing because it was such a perfect opportunity for Giant Bomb.
On Mortal Kombat "A back of the box feature like online was completely broken for months. Let's cut it for that. But it's working now!"
Meanwhile Skyrim is completely unplayable on one platform and broken on others with resistances not working. : /
On Mortal Kombat "A back of the box feature like online was completely broken for months. Let's cut it for that. But it's working now!"
Meanwhile Skyrim is completely unplayable on one platform and broken on others with resistances not working. : /
That's not really consistent with how they've acted last year with Bayonetta. Plus you can't just pretend the PS3 version of Skyrim doesn't exist. It does, and it doesn't work.Vinny actually asks at one point during that discussion if MKs online was broken on all platforms or just one. So I honestly think that was something they would have taken into consideration, and kept MK if it was only busted on one.
On Mortal Kombat "A back of the box feature like online was completely broken for months. Let's cut it for that. But it's working now!"
Meanwhile Skyrim is completely unplayable on one platform and broken on others with resistances not working. : /
That's not really consistent with how they've acted last year with Bayonetta. Plus you can't just pretend the PS3 version of Skyrim doesn't exist. It does, and it doesn't work.
That's not really consistent with how they've acted last year with Bayonetta. Plus you can't just pretend the PS3 version of Skyrim doesn't exist. It does, and it doesn't work.
That's not really consistent with how they've acted last year with Bayonetta. Plus you can't just pretend the PS3 version of Skyrim doesn't exist. It does, and it doesn't work.
Which is why they mentioned specifically that the award was given for the 360/PC versions. I think they've made the point that if you only have access to a PS3, Skyrim is not a game you should play.
Is Ryan just a character? He's said some pretty weird stuff before but the whole Skyrim winning because it the most game blew my mind. The only other explanation is that he just gave in earlier to Brad.
But other than that, it was tense and enjoyable final 4 hours. The Russian Roulette of cutting games was great.
I think that works in a review, giving the appropriate score for the platform but for GOTY, you have to look at the whole picture and where the game can be played.
I think that works in a review, giving the appropriate score for the platform but for GOTY, you have to look at the whole picture and where the game can be played.
I think that works in a review, giving the appropriate score for the platform but for GOTY, you have to look at the whole picture and where the game can be played.
Yeah Ryan is just a voice that Jeff does. It's really impressive when they need to have "Ryan" on camera, especially when Jeff is on camera at the same time.
Yeah, I know. I'm wondering why they felt they could dismiss Bayonetta because of that last year, or why they're not specifying platforms for every other game they're doing on the list. I get that they all really liked Skyrim (apart from Ryan who hasn't even played it but felt the need to agree with Brad) but it's not a good excuse to have it on the list. Then go on to dismiss Mortal Kombat for having issues, even if it had broken online for a couple of months (and hey it's been fixed for a while now), while ignoring the PS3 version of Skyrim and the patches that have broken things on PC and 360 (which are broken right now).Which is why they mentioned specifically that the award was given for the 360/PC versions. I think they've made the point that if you only have access to a PS3, Skyrim is not a game you should play.
Are you the fucking GOTY Regulations Board? They are giving non-existent awards to video games,their aren't any rules they need to follow.
You do have to look at the whole picture, and that's why I don't think it would be right to discount it for 1 version of the game when 2 work perfectly fine.
It's the other way around. A GB review is a buyer's guide, so reviewing the PS3 version might help people know just how shitty it is. GOTY is about what game they enjoyed the most (well, except for Ryan, apparently). None of them played the PS3 version, why should that influence their decision?
They picked the right game for GOTY.
edit: actually, can I ask to anyone who listened to their final dilberations, did they at least bring up the whole Skyrim PS3 thing? did they say why that didn't factor into their decision?
Vinny: What's ground breaking about Skyrim that doesn't just make it iterative of Oblivion?
Brad: They did it! They got it right!
Vinny: So did Saint's Row the third!
Brad: Just a little bit righter than a bunch of other people.
Oh my god this is hilarious
That goes both ways.But the busted PS3 version doesn't suddenly make the 360 and PC versions not great games. Why should a 360/PC gamer care at all that the PS3 version is broken? It doesn't make the game any less enjoyable for them.
Seems to be a lot of this going around (not just on Gaf) that Skyrim shouldn't be getting any accolades at all because the PS3 version is broken; No, the PS3 VERSION shouldn't be getting any accolades. Bethesda majorly dropped the ball with this version, and they deserve to have consequences for that... in the form of the title rotting on retailers shelves and being returned to the company as defective. But the busted PS3 version doesn't suddenly make the 360 and PC versions not great games. Why should a 360/PC gamer care at all that the PS3 version is broken? It doesn't make the game any less enjoyable for them. I have no problems with sites raining praise on Skyrim, as long as they make it clear to stay far, far away from the PS3 version.
That goes both ways.
Continued apathy towards this and rewarding Bethesda for it is just poor form.
