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Girl/Dating Age Part 2: A combined effort to give advice for those in need

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This. I find you can go about things one of two ways when you're setting dates:

1) Although some might think it comes off as eager, give two separate dates. Tell her something like "Let's ____. I'm busy most of the week but am free ____ and ____." This allows minimal back-and-forth because you're giving her two days to work with. Unlike the next approach, you don't have to over use texting to search for a time. Be realistic in your two days though, Friday and Saturday nights aren't usually good choices because you should already be busy those days. Chances are she will be if she has a social life. Go for week days. That's my opinion on that approach.

2) The instant no bullshit test is just give one time. If she wants to see you and/or isn't a total dolt (if she's interested) she will reschedule if the time you give doesn't work. If she doesn't then she wasn't interested. Girls who're actually interested will often tell you, "I'm busy that day, but what about tomorrow night/later in the week?" Just remember that with this approach, if they're interested, they'll be free when you ask or try to give you another window for a date because they actually do want to go out with you.

I've fucked up so many times leaving it up to the woman in question that I know to take charge now when setting dates. Be direct and to the point with texting. Use it to set up your meetings and little else. You can have conversations over text with her when she's your GF. Leave mystery so there's actually stuff to talk about on your date.

Only problem I have is with the bolded. Even then it's a bad idea.
 
Give her a call.

Pardon my bluntness, but you went out on a second date with her. A text might be good now and then, but you should be calling her instead of texting her. When you date one of your prospects, try giving them a call, it makes everything feel a bit more intimate.
See, call me new age but I've been under the impression that nowadays most girls prefer a text to a call. When you're in a relationship it might be different, but in the early stages of dating I've always found that texting works better, hence why I texted her. Both dates we set up with text so she doesn't seem to be opposed to that.

Anyone else have an opinion on this?

The bolded is where you fucked up.

If you want to see her over break, you tell her that you want to see her.

Also specify when.
Yeah that's what I've done for the past dates and it's worked out great. I guess I tried to keep it real casual (evidently, too casual) since she's been acting weird towards me lately. I think I was more interested in seeing her response than actually setting something up, that would've followed depending on what she said.

This. I find you can go about things one of two ways when you're setting dates:

1) Although some might think it comes off as eager, give two separate dates. Tell her something like "Let's ____. I'm busy most of the week but am free ____ and ____." This allows minimal back-and-forth because you're giving her two days to work with. Unlike the next approach, you don't have to over use texting to search for a time. Be realistic in your two days though, Friday and Saturday nights aren't usually good choices because you should already be busy those days. Chances are she will be if she has a social life. Go for week days. That's my opinion on that approach.

2) The instant no bullshit test is just give one time. If she wants to see you and/or isn't a total dolt (if she's interested) she will reschedule if the time you give doesn't work. If she doesn't then she wasn't interested. Girls who're actually interested will often tell you, "I'm busy that day, but what about tomorrow night/later in the week?" Just remember that with this approach, if they're interested, they'll be free when you ask or try to give you another window for a date because they actually do want to go out with you.

I've fucked up so many times leaving it up to the woman in question that I know to take charge now when setting dates. Be direct and to the point with texting. Use it to set up your meetings and little else. You can have conversations over text with her when she's your GF. Leave mystery so there's actually stuff to talk about on your date.
Great post as always, soultron.

I generally go with approach #1 and have success. Her attitude/vibe towards me this past week had thrown me off though so I tried a different route.

I don't think it's necessarily my approach that's caused her not to respond, there's something else that I'm not aware of I'm sure. It's confusing though cause things were going real well (at least I thought anyways). Thanks for the advice.
 

warthog

Member
Yes. She just broke up with her ex and she might not be ready to even date.

Oh my, now I don't know anymore. Like I said, I've got no clue how long it has been since she broke up. I thought they were a couple until shortly, just because that's how I met them and how I know them. But it's true it has been a while since I saw any affection between them and on many occasions lately only 1 of them showed up. I'll add that this is in a sports club.

I don't feel like I asked her for this "date". I just suggested it would be cooler if we met in a bar instead of chatting on the internet, but I did it in a way that it could be regarded as a joke. She then gave me these 2 dates, which took me by surprise.

I don't know what to think of this. Maybe she's just looking for some friend. I've got nothing to compare with, except for that other girl I had been seeing. Probably looking to much into this. I've got to get out more :)

Sorry, this is just some rambling because I don't have anyone to talk to about this.
 

Kad5

Member
I keep bringing girls back to my room and I can't think of how to progress things.

Example:

This girl asked me to sign her into my dorm so she could study with her friends. We go in the elevator and I ask her where she wants to go. She says we can go into my room. I flirted with her a little bit but all we really did was talk.

Of course she was also studying for her final so there's that...


She ended up going to her friend's room because her friend was expecting her.


She gave me a hug and she went to another floor of the dorm. She said she's down for hanging out int he future though.


So for future reference how the hell do I transition? I'm always stumped on this. I never have an issue with bringing girls back to my room. But I feel like i'm supposed to be doing something considering that girls are usually pretty passive.
 

overcast

Member
I had success today!

Met up with this girl for the third time and got lunch.
Then afterwards we went to a park to go on a little walk while holding hands.
Ended up kissing for the first time under a tree and then back at my car.

Really happy how it all turned out :)

A bit late but it was my first kiss too..... but I get the feeling she was also a noob at kissing.
Great job man! I'm in a very similar situation, just a few weeks ahead of you. Going out with the girl. So fucking awesome. (first GF).
 

soultron

Banned
I keep bringing girls back to my room and I can't think of how to progress things.

Example:

This girl asked me to sign her into my dorm so she could study with her friends. We go in the elevator and I ask her where she wants to go. She says we can go into my room. I flirted with her a little bit but all we really did was talk.

Of course she was also studying for her final so there's that...


She ended up going to her friend's room because her friend was expecting her.


She gave me a hug and she went to another floor of the dorm. She said she's down for hanging out int he future though.


So for future reference how the hell do I transition? I'm always stumped on this. I never have an issue with bringing girls back to my room. But I feel like i'm supposed to be doing something considering that girls are usually pretty passive.

"Let's take a break to watch an episode of _____."

*put on TV show episode*

"Come here."

Cuddle. Bam. If she goes for the cuddle, you're good to do other stuff.

That's over-simplifying it, I know, but generally if a girl is okay being physically intimate (holding hands, cuddling, etc.) outside of hugs, you're usually clear for whatever you want to try next. Be prepared to be rebuffed, because eventually we all get shut down her and there, but just remember that if you don't take the risk, you'll always be stuck with the regrets of, "Man, I should've made a move. Did I blow it? Was she interested?"

It's better to just risk fucking up to find a definitive answer to the big question mark hanging over her head with respect to her level of interest in you.
 

Dina

Member
So third date, still nothing much happening. Doing my fucking head in, either I'm friendzoned way too deep or she is just unsure. Not getting much response from personal contact wasn't helping, and her not sitting next to me wasn't either.

Gahh, it was a fun date by all accounts, but there not being any progress is frustrating since I'm not sure what to make of this. Iceskating next week, but I want some clarity by the end of that date.
 

soultron

Banned
So third date, still nothing much happening. Doing my fucking head in, either I'm friendzoned way too deep or she is just unsure. Not getting much response from personal contact wasn't helping, and her not sitting next to me wasn't either.

Gahh, it was a fun date by all accounts, but there not being any progress is frustrating since I'm not sure what to make of this. Iceskating next week, but I want some clarity by the end of that date.

Go "all in" on your next date. Iceskating is a great opportunity to be playfully physical.
 

Miguel

Member
Not directed at anyone, it's just funny :D

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LOL That would have been so helpful 4 1/2 months ago
 
Oh my, now I don't know anymore. Like I said, I've got no clue how long it has been since she broke up. I thought they were a couple until shortly, just because that's how I met them and how I know them. But it's true it has been a while since I saw any affection between them and on many occasions lately only 1 of them showed up. I'll add that this is in a sports club.

I don't feel like I asked her for this "date". I just suggested it would be cooler if we met in a bar instead of chatting on the internet, but I did it in a way that it could be regarded as a joke. She then gave me these 2 dates, which took me by surprise.

I don't know what to think of this. Maybe she's just looking for some friend. I've got nothing to compare with, except for that other girl I had been seeing. Probably looking to much into this. I've got to get out more :)

Sorry, this is just some rambling because I don't have anyone to talk to about this.

Just don't set yourself for disappointment when she drops the "friend" bomb on you (80% chance she will)

Go "all in" on your next date. Iceskating is a great opportunity to be playfully physical.

What he said. Get physical and if she doesn't reciprocate no big deal.
 

Calion

Member
Bible girl had been acting strange around me this week. I sent her a very casual text today wishing her a good winter break and that if she felt like getting together at all during the time off for her to let me know. I've yet to hear back.

Not sure why the sudden change in attitude. As I've said, both dates were fantastic and our last one ended with us making out before I dropped her off.

Regardless, if I don't hear back from her tonight I'll be moving on to the next one. Have some potential prospects around during winter break anyways. Not sweating it.

Nope. If you want to pursue things further, you have to put more effort into it. It sounds like you've only been texting her (my assumption a tleast), and you just can't do that when you're not in a relationship. Be direct, forward, and to the point with texting. That way, ball is in her court, and she knows your mindset. Only do that when you're in the pursuit phase. Once you have a relationship, then you can start mindless banter with her.

My suggestion? Call her up and express your direct interest in meeting up or planning another date. If she doesn't respond, it's back to the drawing board with other women.
 

Miguel

Member
Not sure why but I've never been much of a phone person, the balancing act on my shoulder is not my idea of a fun hour or two for these things. Plus sound quality with cell phones is usually still crappy. Luckily... I know that the current girl I went on a date with and been talking to (2nd date saturday), has mentioned Skype on her fb profile recently. For some reason, I'm totally fine with skype lol. I'm going to bring that up instead of phone calls, not totally eliminating them, but I can use a good headset for skype and not have to deal with the crappy sound/phone balancing act.

Finally getting around to typing my update from my date saturday, should be done soon... lol
 

Miguel

Member
Apologies in advance... kinda long.

I'd been talking to a girl I met for a couple of weeks before we settled on something to go do one day. I had tickets to a concert and she had mentioned she was busy with work and Thanksgiving plans, but that we should try to go out soon. I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask if she was off the night of the concert, and if she'd like to go with me. Boy it didn't take long for her to respond, she was ecstatic and we started setting up plans to go. Spent the next couple of days working out some details and once the weekend rolled along I started on my journey to pick her up. I managed to avoid the traffic she had been warning me about on the way there, and soon enough I was at her place and she was waiting for me outside.

Right of the bat, of course, I look like a total dork for accidentally turning off the car. Totally didn't mean to, just wanted to get out of the car and finally get to meet her, but force of habit of getting out of the car and always taking my keys with me got the best of me, and before I could stop myself the car was off. She laughed and I had to laugh at myself as well, but in any case, I stepped out and I said hello, have her a quick peck on the cheek, and we got in the car and took off downtown.

The entire drive we started talking about various different topics and interest of ours, never a dull moment, many laughs, so engaged in the conversation that I missed one exit, then took a wrong exit a few more miles down. Told her my internal GPS wasn't working tonight. We finally got to the parking garage for the concert venue and we parked and started our walk to the venue, well actually, to the place we were going to have dinner first. Since the two places are next to each other we figured we'd do that and then walk next door and see the concert. So we get to the restaurant and apparently it's reserved for the night for a private party... oops. Didn't say anything about that on the calendar. We were way early for the concert anyway, so we walked around looking for another place to have dinner. There was a restaurant along the way but I'm pretty sure it's really upscale, I'd have been ok with it, but my wallet may have cried a little. We kept walking and around the corner from the venue, we came across another restaurant that looked nice and we walked in to sit down and eat.

Still having a great conversation, it's turned flirty at this point, and once we ordered and got our drinks (sodas, she didn't want alcohol at this point, and there wasn't anything non-alcoholic appealing on the menu) and started talking some more, at some point, I don't quite remember how, I probably said something that didn't make much sense, so she joked that someone may have spiked my drink. I turned it back on her and told her (due to the flirting I figured it was fine) that yeah, "someone" must have, and that she was just trying to get me drunk and she was like "DAMN, you caught me!" and we joked around about that for a bit (who knew... rape can be funny! [I'm totally kidding don't ban me plz]) Then we had what can only be described as the most awesome dessert ever. Fried tempura banana w/ ice cream with some berries tossed in for good measure. So. So. So. Good. I'm pretty sure she was having a moment or two with the dessert (I kinda was too) and she raved about it the rest of the night.

So we finally make our way to the concert venue after we finished dinner, and ran into my brother and sister at the show.. oops, lol. Kind of a possible awkward moment but we both took it in stride, I went and got a few beers at some point and my sister and her talked for a minute or two, not sure about what, they say about the concert... heh. Anyway, so we sit down and all 3 acts were actually really great. Throughout the night we kept getting close to tell each other things since it was so loud, and that was really cool since we were close the entire night.

At some point she got her phone out and started facebooking and texting... which I don't mind, It wasn't excessive, and it was only during the concert when it was loud and we were both into the music. Myself, I've always been a "I won't check my phone on a date" person, and despite what the other person does, I always keep mine in my pocket. She leans into me and says (screams?) "check your phone", so I did. Apparently the text was to me, lol. Thanking me for a wonderful dinner, and for the concert. "Also... u smell super yummy. And yes... i'm sober lol!" Probably ruined it by not just turning and kissing her right there, but I texted her back since the concert was still going on, and since we were sitting, I put my hand on her leg and just started rubbing it a little, nothing too naughty, just getting her comfortable with me touching her I guess? I dunno, just seemed right, and she went with it, so it was all good. I told her I was sober too (unless someone spiked my drink) and she goes "That was me!" lol. She seemed to dig my air guitar solo in the middle of one of the songs, and she joined in with air drums, and we rocked out the rest of the entire concert. It was seriously the best date I've ever been on.

Until... (ok, not really that bad, just a boneheaded move by me) We walked back to my car and I go to turn it on... dead. Hello headlights. Ugh, lol. Luckily someone was around to help give me a jump and 10 minutes later we were on our way. We talked the rest of the way back home and finally got back to her place. I got out and since she's living with her dad at the moment, I didn't want to get a shotgun blast to the face, so I met her at the other side of the car, and she told me she had a great time, I told her I did too and then we had a quick kiss before she walked into her place.

Since I had a bit of a drive before getting home, I turned on spotify on my phone and listened to what we heard at the concert the whole way home, and I pretty much had a smile on my face the entire drive home. Once I got home I saw I had a text thanking me again for a wonderful night and that she's up for a 2nd date if I am. We kind of took it from there over text for a little bit, and for the past week since Saturday night. I'm fairly excited about this, it's only been one date, but it went about as well as it could possibly go.​
 
Studied with the girl all morning then had some lunch with her. Things went well. But we were both exhausted from finals' week and need a few days off (don't read this as a negative). She definitely said she wants to hang out over the winter break so I plan to text her later tonight suggesting an activity on Sunday or something.

Just need some good suggestions so help is welcome.
 

Kalnos

Banned
I think you're doing well Grimm, just need to close the deal that you're interested on Sunday as was mentioned earlier. Try to be original with what you do, don't settle with the old 'dinner/movie' night if you can help it IMO. It's pretty hard to suggest something though... do you live in a small college town or a larger city?
 

hipgnosis

Member
Apologies in advance... kinda long.
Good stuff Miguel! Seems like she is into you, that text thing was flirty as hell. Your future seems bright!

Having a fourth date with the law student this saturday. Gonna grab a couple of drinks with her and have some fun in town. Really great we don't have to worry about the next day so things should be pretty relaxed. The only problem is that my money situation is not the best so I'm gonna have to find some place cheap. :D
 

low-G

Member
This. I find you can go about things one of two ways when you're setting dates:

1) Although some might think it comes off as eager, give two separate dates. Tell her something like "Let's ____. I'm busy most of the week but am free ____ and ____." This allows minimal back-and-forth because you're giving her two days to work with. Unlike the next approach, you don't have to over use texting to search for a time. Be realistic in your two days though, Friday and Saturday nights aren't usually good choices because you should already be busy those days. Chances are she will be if she has a social life. Go for week days. That's my opinion on that approach.

2) The instant no bullshit test is just give one time. If she wants to see you and/or isn't a total dolt (if she's interested) she will reschedule if the time you give doesn't work. If she doesn't then she wasn't interested. Girls who're actually interested will often tell you, "I'm busy that day, but what about tomorrow night/later in the week?" Just remember that with this approach, if they're interested, they'll be free when you ask or try to give you another window for a date because they actually do want to go out with you.

I've fucked up so many times leaving it up to the woman in question that I know to take charge now when setting dates. Be direct and to the point with texting. Use it to set up your meetings and little else. You can have conversations over text with her when she's your GF. Leave mystery so there's actually stuff to talk about on your date.

Does this actually work? Because I don't know a single person in any kind of relationship that did stuff quite like that. These seem more likes rules for overly needy guys / gals to follow. Real people don't necessarily have that much free time in their lives. Real people sometimes come home from work or school wrecked. Different kinds of girls feel different kinds of caution, and if you're talking about online dating odds are those girls are afraid of meeting guys in the first place because otherwise they'd be meeting people in real life.

That's over-simplifying it, I know, but generally if a girl is okay being physically intimate (holding hands, cuddling, etc.) outside of hugs, you're usually clear for whatever you want to try next.

Severe oversimplification. Cuddling is nothing. Holding hands... maybe...

Not being critical but in the case of that last one, if I followed that advice... hoo boy... not good. Just because your genitalia are within centimeters of hers doesn't mean she wants you to stick it in. :3 /joke
 

Cubsfan23

Banned
See, call me new age but I've been under the impression that nowadays most girls prefer a text to a call. When you're in a relationship it might be different, but in the early stages of dating I've always found that texting works better, hence why I texted her. Both dates we set up with text so she doesn't seem to be opposed to that.

Anyone else have an opinion on this?

I don't talk on the phone at all, unless family calls me. Texting gets straight to the point when it comes to women. It's only when you do 50 million texts, that it's bad
 
I think you're doing well Grimm, just need to close the deal that you're interested on Sunday as was mentioned earlier. Try to be original with what you do, don't settle with the old 'dinner/movie' night if you can help it IMO. It's pretty hard to suggest something though... do you live in a small college town or a larger city?

Chicago so lots of stuff to do. I was thinking the aquarium but I dunno.
 
Does this actually work? Because I don't know a single person in any kind of relationship that did stuff quite like that. These seem more likes rules for overly needy guys / gals to follow. Real people don't necessarily have that much free time in their lives. Real people sometimes come home from work or school wrecked. Different kinds of girls feel different kinds of caution, and if you're talking about online dating odds are those girls are afraid of meeting guys in the first place because otherwise they'd be meeting people in real life.



Severe oversimplification. Cuddling is nothing. Holding hands... maybe...

Not being critical but in the case of that last one, if I followed that advice... hoo boy... not good. Just because your genitalia are within centimeters of hers doesn't mean she wants you to stick it in. :3 /joke

If a girl likes you enough she will MAKE time for you.
 
Straw man.

Not entirely. I think I've said it before, but this thread sometimes devolves too far into "The Game" approach to dating. Sometimes, in the real world, things just develop naturally. I know everyone wants advice on what to do like there's some sort of standard procedure, but realistically that's just unlikely. In terms of scheduling I say just do what works for you and her. Make it clear you're interested in hanging out again, and be clear about when you're available and check it against her schedule and make suggestions. Then the two of you can mutually decide on a convenient time. Realize that not everyone has a ton of free time and may have certain commitments that are currently higher priorities than someone who they just met.
 

SRG01

Member
Does this actually work? Because I don't know a single person in any kind of relationship that did stuff quite like that. These seem more likes rules for overly needy guys / gals to follow. Real people don't necessarily have that much free time in their lives. Real people sometimes come home from work or school wrecked. Different kinds of girls feel different kinds of caution, and if you're talking about online dating odds are those girls are afraid of meeting guys in the first place because otherwise they'd be meeting people in real life.

If a girl likes you enough she will MAKE time for you.

Again, real world people don't normally quit their jobs and drop the rest of their lives for someone they just met.

low-G is right in this, especially if you're both career-minded people. Theoretically, women (and men!) will make time for the other if they like each other enough, but sometimes they have other priorities in life. It's good to be an initiator, but exercising flexibility is a good idea too.

My suggestion would be to propose a "general" time/place, and see if she can schedule around that.

Wanting to spend more time together is more applicable later on when two people are officially a couple.
 
Quick question..

But is Life Drawing a good place to meet girls?

I intend to do it regardless at some point (just to meet other people really), but it's not something I can say i know.

I've only ever done life drawing as part of work.. so I can certainly say it's a good way to meet people..


Got a feeling i've asked a stupid question XD
 

Miguel

Member
Good stuff Miguel! Seems like she is into you, that text thing was flirty as hell. Your future seems bright!

Having a fourth date with the law student this saturday. Gonna grab a couple of drinks with her and have some fun in town. Really great we don't have to worry about the next day so things should be pretty relaxed. The only problem is that my money situation is not the best so I'm gonna have to find some place cheap. :D
Supposed to go to some zoo-like place with the girl on Saturday, an all day kind of thing, so I'm thinking things are going really well lol. There's a huge christmas lights ceremony going on at night too, so that should be pretty fun. The place is having a photo contest too, so I'm bringing my camera along and I'm sure there will be some hijinx with that as well.

Sounds like things are going with you as well! Zoo. Park. Tours. Think of things that take a good chunk of the day while not spending much. Depending on where you are, maybe ice skating around this time of year. Usually skate rentals aren't that expensive, as far as I know, chicks dig that shit, and if you make a fool of yourself you guys can laugh about it later.
 

Xun

Member
Has this been posted yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA

Also Dabookerman I think it could potentially be a good place yes.

You'd be interacting with others who share a passion with art, and that alone gives you something to talk about.

It's certainly something I wouldn't mind doing, but of course not simply to meet new people.
 
Again, real world people don't normally quit their jobs and drop the rest of their lives for someone they just met.

Dude.

DUDE.

Let me pick my jaw off the floor real quick. If you meet a girl who is interested in you, you will be what makes her happy. After a hard days work, you are the thing shes looking forward to. She will make time for you.

Example from my own experience. I met this one girl at work. I chatted her up and asked her out on a date. She was 'too busy.' She had school, errands, appointments, hw, etc. You name it, she had to do it. I asked again. 'Too busy', again. The third time she accepted. (If only to get me off her back?) After that first date, she was suddenly available to hang out all the time.

If a girl WANTS to spend time with you, she'll make time for you. 'Real world people'. WTF does that even mean? People have lives outside of their jobs. Sure they might come home tired, but something in their life makes them happy and YOU could be that something if they're interested in you.

At bolded... 'Just met'. Like you've literally said one thing to the girl? If you strike her as interesting/attractive, she'll make time.
 

overcast

Member
See, call me new age but I've been under the impression that nowadays most girls prefer a text to a call. When you're in a relationship it might be different, but in the early stages of dating I've always found that texting works better, hence why I texted her. Both dates we set up with text so she doesn't seem to be opposed to that.
I don't have a ton of experience, but it seems that most girls prefer texting now. I like calling better, but texting is less time consuming I guess. I don't even text my GF that often, probably 2 hours on days where we don't hang out.
 

soultron

Banned
Does this actually work? Because I don't know a single person in any kind of relationship that did stuff quite like that. These seem more likes rules for overly needy guys / gals to follow. Real people don't necessarily have that much free time in their lives. Real people sometimes come home from work or school wrecked. Different kinds of girls feel different kinds of caution, and if you're talking about online dating odds are those girls are afraid of meeting guys in the first place because otherwise they'd be meeting people in real life.

I'm not really disagreeing with you but they're only suggestions of things to try. People have jobs and lives, absolutely. I'm not saying people are going to/should drop everything to make time to see you. I just think these two approaches are good for feeling out whether or not people are interested. The first approach works great for busy people because you're given two days. The second is much more direct and to the point.

I think in both cases, if she can't make one/any of the times you've provideed -- no matter how busy the woman is -- she will ask to reschedule if she's interested in you. That's the take-away I wanted to stress. I guess I didn't do a great job of expressing that though. c:

The logical conclusion is that if you can't arrange a time and she doesn't suggest rescheduling, you can drop her instantly since she's not interested. If you're still digging after that point, you're pursuing and really wasting your time.

Severe oversimplification. Cuddling is nothing. Holding hands... maybe...

Not being critical but in the case of that last one, if I followed that advice... hoo boy... not good. Just because your genitalia are within centimeters of hers doesn't mean she wants you to stick it in. :3 /joke

Nowhere did I imply that this was strictly and indicator of whether or not she's willing to have sex with you. It's just another feeling out process. If a woman trusts you enough to be physical (along the lines of cuddling or holding hands) it means you've done a lot of things right and she's probably ready for a bit of elevation.

Think about it this way: you're on a date with her (she's interested enough in you to hang with you) and you're touching her in a way that's more intimate than most physical contact (she trusts you to let you touch her) so it's basically safe to say you're good for something as simple as a kiss. If she wants to be touched up to that point, she's probably wanting you to kiss her as well.
 
Has this been posted yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA

Also Dabookerman I think it could potentially be a good place yes.

You'd be interacting with others who share a passion with art, and that alone gives you something to talk about.

It's certainly something I wouldn't mind doing, but of course not simply to meet new people.

Yup.
I actually will get something out of it (practicing my 2d since i bloody need to.. ) and meeting new people.
 

Cubsfan23

Banned
If a girl WANTS to spend time with you, she'll make time for you.


It's the Brad Pitt Rule. Would a girl say she was " too busy " to him? Of course not.

It was already mentioned, at worst, she will say " I definitely want to do something another day " and the date doesn't fall through. Otherwise, she isn't interested
 

Miguel

Member
They do if you're interesting and fun to be around

99.9% of people don't have constant plans every single day

Yeah, despite not having much luck early in my life... and honestly not until the past year or two, everyone always has some free time. Maybe not today, or tomorrow, but it's not possible to not have an hour or two for a week or more at a time. If they don't want to, they won't make time. If they want to go somewhere, your suggestion may not work, but they'll throw something back at you, even if that doesn't work for you, then you guys at that point can work out a day that works.

"No I'm busy" without even a hint of choosing another date is usually a quick sign to bail early.

Not that I ever follow my own advice.

Exception: In my case, both of us starting new jobs and Thanksgiving weekend made it difficult to make time early, but we brought that up and agreed to wait til sometime in early dec to do something. Worked out perfectly so far.
 
I've noticed that I am really picky. I meet a lot of girls in HS who show interest but I can't return the favor. I just can't see myself with any of them. I've seriously only crushed on 5-6 girls in my life, haha. I can't wait until college next year where there will be so many more options.
 
Why am I so bad at thinking of date ideas? Whenever I have an idea it usually includes more than just me and a girl, can anyone give me some ideas for inspiration? Since our dates usually consist of more than just me and her, I am trying to think of something to do alone - just the two of us this time.

Another question I have is what is an appropriate gift for Christmas after dating for roughly 3 months? I was thinking along the lines of a "cheap" (<$150) bracelet or necklace, but I am terribly inexperienced in buying anything like this. I would like to buy something that she would wear everyday, what makes something an everyday wear as opposed to something you would wear if you are going out?
 
I've noticed that I am really picky. I meet a lot of girls in HS who show interest but I can't return the favor. I just can't see myself with any of them. I've seriously only crushed on 5-6 girls in my life, haha. I can't wait until college next year where there will be so many more options.

That's more than enough crushes.

Never have a crush. Have interest and act on it. Don't have interest, do nothing.
 
Why am I so bad at thinking of date ideas? Whenever I have an idea it usually includes more than just me and a girl, can anyone give me some ideas for inspiration? Since our dates usually consist of more than just me and her, I am trying to think of something to do alone - just the two of us this time.

Another question I have is what is an appropriate gift for Christmas after dating for roughly 3 months? I was thinking along the lines of a "cheap" (<$150) bracelet or necklace, but I am terribly inexperienced in buying anything like this. I would like to buy something that she would wear everyday, what makes something an everyday wear as opposed to something you would wear if you are going out?

$150 is not "cheap" unless you have a house, car, and a job. And 3 months isn't a long time. I would say $50 max. Go for something more sentimental. IMO, the problem with jewelry is that it's all or nothing. $150 wouldn't get you something really nice, and something that isn't really nice isn't worth wearing all the time.
 

soultron

Banned
$150 is not "cheap" unless you have a house, car, and a job. And 3 months isn't a long time. I would say $50 max. Go for something more sentimental. IMO, the problem with jewelry is that it's all or nothing. $150 wouldn't get you something really nice, and something that isn't really nice isn't worth wearing all the time.

I think you might even freak a girl out if you're buying her stuff like that.

My roommate is seeing a guy, and they've been dating for 6 months, and he bought her a necklace and she was all freaked out and kept asking me, "Shit, what does this mean?!"

Jewellery is serious anniversary-level shit, if you ask me.
 

Miguel

Member
Yeah... 3 months warrants a small 20-40 dollar gift maybe.

Assuming anything continues with this girl, I've got a relatively cheap gift idea, and it'll probably get her all "awww". Relates to the first, and (scheduled) 2nd date.

Pick something from one of your first couple of dates and get get something that relates to that.
 

soultron

Banned
I used to think like that. Now I have a lot of female friends and find life is so much more interesting with a larger, mixed social circle. I get why people say guys and girls can't be friends, but I'm living proof it can happen, and it's worth it. Ruining a friendship because you want to bone the girl is really short-sighted.

College does funny things to your brain while you're there.
 

Lissar

Reluctant Member
Another question I have is what is an appropriate gift for Christmas after dating for roughly 3 months? I was thinking along the lines of a "cheap" (<$150) bracelet or necklace, but I am terribly inexperienced in buying anything like this. I would like to buy something that she would wear everyday, what makes something an everyday wear as opposed to something you would wear if you are going out?

Definitely don't buy anything that expensive, you'll make her feel pressured! Even if that is hardly anything to you, it might be a bit much for her. Does she wear a lot of jewelry and you'd think she would enjoy some? If you haven't noticed a particular interest in jewelry, you might try something more sentimental that would appeal to her interests.
 
Just got dumped. Super serious, long term relationship. CHEER ME UP I HATE EVERYTHING.

Only thing I can say is if you have any good friends to talk to, let off some steam. It won't do you any good to be alone right now thinking about this. Have a few drinks, figure out what happened, take a while to mourn what you've lost, then get back on your feet.
 
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