Thanks for proving my point exactly.While different in terms of drama, it also had more interesting characters and acting. Ford Brody emoted worse than fucking Anakin Skywalker.
Thanks for proving my point exactly.While different in terms of drama, it also had more interesting characters and acting. Ford Brody emoted worse than fucking Anakin Skywalker.
I enjoyed it. Maybe would have liked a little more Godzilla, but not that much more, or else it would have risked becoming commonplace and boring. The human element was hit and miss, should have featured more Cranston.
One question though:How the fuck did the happy birthday sign get hung up? I thought Binoche told Ford to put it away until later. Obviously a very minor part of the movie, but it was quite jarring.
Oh my god yes,all those tanks, ships and soldiers shooting at him and Godzilla basically got bored, went "fuck this guys, I'm out" and strolled right through the Golden Gate Bridge like it wasn't even there.
I'm surprised to read some gaffers sayingGodzilla's movements were unnatural. They were really in-line with what I'd expect a humanoid-ish giant lizard to be. He was basically a bear with a tail...which was AWESOME.
Honestly, it sounds like you're confusing theme with motivation.The obvious theme was that humanity is insignificant when compared to nature.If Cranston HAD survived, I don't know how "dealing with the loss of a loved one" would have been resolved by Godzilla defeating two MUTOs.There are really only two moments when the monsters "care" about humans: when MUTO mama thinks Ford destroyed her nest and when Godzilla is hurtin' and sees Ford. Otherwise, the humans are an afterthought to them. As someone mentioned above, I LOVED how Godzilla had no fucks to give about the military tracking him.
We might as well have been remora fish.
they nailed theI'm surprised to read some gaffers sayingGodzilla's movements were unnatural. They were really in-line with what I'd expect a humanoid-ish giant lizard to be. He was basically a bear with a tail...which was AWESOME.
Fair point. I guess I was just kind of expecting the movie to go in a different direction.
My problem with the theme you suggest, however, is thatthe atomic (nuclear? I donno enough about bombs lol) is still legitimately a threat in the movie, and we never know if it would've killed the monsters. This contrasts a lot with the theme that we are insignificant to nature, because it seems like we could have killed the Mutos and Godzilla with it,but just didn't end up needing to do so. Although perhaps that's a point in the theme's favor, that our actions wouldn't have mattered anyways.
What exactly did you want them to use? Zepplins?or why they kept using planes around a monster using EMP's like every five minutes.
Such a dissapointing movie overall.
And what did they acomplish with them exactly? Other than causing more destruction when falling all ober the city. So stupid.What exactly did you want them to use? Zepplins?
Some of that was the point. I think they were trying to show how totally unprepared and incompetent our government would be if something like this actually happened.Man, i don't think i saw the same movie as most of you.
I thought it was terrible, i'm sick of the whole soldier with a wife and kid saving the day angle.The monsters were boring as hell, looked just like the cloverfield monster. Not enough monster screen time. Too many annoying little details. Why would the military care about having a japanese expert with them if they're going to ignore everything he says. The bridge scene was also really stupid how it was fucking closed when you're trying to take people to a safe place and you know a fucking monster is headed right there.
I could go on and on about stuff like that all iver the movie, like the military failing to see a huge fucking hole by the side of the mountain in nevada, or why they kept using planes around a monster using EMP's like every five minutes.
Such a dissapointing movie overall.
Thanks for proving my point exactly.
It's not like they had any other option, and they could still try and keep a distance and do surveillance and track them unless you think they should have jeeps driving all over looking for them. What a shocker that pilots don't know how to interact with a 355 foot dinosaur they've never seen before.And what did they acomplish with them exactly? Other than causing more destruction when falling all ober the city. So stupid.
That's was even more stupid, they lost track of them all the time and failed at their job 100% of the time. Name one thing the military did good in the movie other than solving a problem they created in the first place right at the end.It's not like they had any other option, and they could still try and keep a distance and do surveillance and track them unless you think they should have jeeps driving all over looking for them. What a shocker that pilots don't know how to interact with a 355 foot dinosaur they've never seen before.
I think that's a fair criticism, and even thefallout of the nuclear blast being so closely off-shore isn't really dealt with. I feel like a map at some point showed the fallout risk, but other than that, we just had Watanabe saying "don't do this, look at my watch."
If they had tried the nuclear blast and it did NOTHING, it would have strengthened the theme.
I did enjoy the MUTOs eating the nuclear bombs like treats, though.
Hoping for Mothra in a sequel, but don't know how they'd handle it sinceboth are basically heroes now unless they make Mothra into a villain.
Honestly, I've wasted enough time on this movie so here is a spoiler-filled drinking game to reflect my thoughts:
For most of these you're going to be drinking a lot. I don't think it will make the movie any better.
Drink when:
Ken Wantanabe looks shocked.
The Giant Monsters appear out of nowhere after sneaking into the area silently.
Aaron Taylor Johnson survives something that should have killed him.
The fighting stops so monsters can roar. (e: honestly, while this happens a lot it's not too bad. It's just that Godzilla roared like 4 times in 5 minutes)
More infantry is sent in, because that ought to do it!
The film briefly creates cheap characters you'll feel sad about (ie: dog on beach, children, family) despite countless individuals dying without recognition.
Every wasted shot (ie: 5 seconds of bus doors as the bus drives off, ending shot of water)
The military's sophisticated tracking systems loses any of three monsters.
I always struggle to grasp the fact that these films are 'Summer Blockbusters' which means logic doesn't matter, but it's just really frustrating to witness the stupidest shit happen. Relationships and human characters were all so cheap and unbelievable that every scene with them was boring and, by the third act, completely laughable.
I really wanted to enjoy this because the first trailer was hype as hell, but once again an amazing outlandish concept is weighed down by a pathetic representation of humanity.
Best:Godzilla himself, despite fucking around at the golden gate bridge) was amazing. The end fight was awesome and he was pretty much perfect.
Worst:The very first time the audience saw Godzilla fight they didn't get to experience the throw down firsthand. Instead we saw it via a TV screen, inter-spliced with footage of a kids face. Absolutely stupid.
That's was even more stupid, they lost track of them all the time and failed at their job 100% of the time. Name one thing the military did good in the movie other than solving a problem they created in the first place right at the end.
That's was even more stupid, they lost track of them all the time and failed at their job 100% of the time. Name one thing the military did good in the movie other than solving a problem they created in the first place right at the end.
Seriously. Giant, mobile creatures come out of no where for the first time in history, destroying everything in their path, and people are bitching because the military doesn't know how to handle it. It may be a shocker to know this kind of shit wasn't in their training.Except they clearly provided an explanation why they lost track of them at least a couple of times during the movie.EMP bursts that also fuck with their radar
There are some obvious flaws with the movie but some of the shit people are moaning about makes me question how much attention they were paying.
I wonder if the sequel = MechaGodzilla. Godzilla's presence is now known and the military or some other group wants to harness it.
That's the point though, they were mostly unable to handle anything save the last few bits, rather than letting Godzilla handle it.
This universe feels too grounded. I think we'd be lucky to get something like Super X, let alone a MechaGodzilla .If this were continued as a series, it would be cool to see the evolution of the military hardware. Maybe get some call-backs, like maser-tanks.
I thought it was one of the core elements of the movie; our government and military would be clueless on how to deal with something like this if they couldn't just blow it up.Seriously. Giant, mobile creatures come out of no where for the first time in history, destroying everything in their path, and people are bitching because the military doesn't know how to handle it. It may be a shocker to know this kind of shit wasn't in their training.
And when people think of monster movies they tend to forget humans exist in them too. Yeah the human parts are crap but at the same time the movie would be stale too if it's always monsters.
Still, Godzilla is known and people wanting to use Zilla isn't away from being grounded.
Did it ever explain whyGodzilla was trying to kill those insects. I know it said that they were Godzilla's natural prey but after he killed them he didn't even eat them, it's like he just killed them for fun. He was listening in on the insects echolocation conversation about making sweet love but Godzilla was like "nope, I'm not going to allow this." The final fight scene was sick though, better than any fight scene in a Godzilla movie.
In conclusion, not to shock anyone, it's a dumb summer action movie with a sloppy script. Worth seeing in a full theatre though to share in some serious hollering over The Big Guy's victories. Thatmichead drop hot damn.
We were in a full theatre, me and my brother were literally the only people in the whole place that seemed to react to anything. Guy sitting next to me with his girlfriend was probably getting annoyed that I didn't sit there in stony silence like everyone else but fuck him, this movie was the shit.
I can't think of a car that would run without a working battery.
the movie is brand new. Be respectfulWhy even have this thread if half the damn page is spoiler blocked. Can't we just talk about the damn movie?
What a bummer! My theatre was poppin' off at Ken's dumb one-liners and Godzilla's sick roars.
this was one of things that really bugged me, it didnt need to be so overt. I get what they were going for, but as4.At the end when Godzilla gets back up after seemingly defeated, instead of reacting and been scared the news immediately declares him a saviour despite not knowing his intentions after he got up. What if he was like fuck it and started destroying stuff.
I had a great time thinking about that newsroom. Those graphics people were Johnny-on-the-spot getting a MUTO modeled and animated like nothin'. When they put up "Our Savior" do you think there were two producers screaming at each other "but we don't know that yet!!" "just run it it's good copy!!"?
1. Ford is always in the right place at the right time.
2. The MUTOS had a better build up then Godzilla.
4.At the end when Godzilla gets back up after seemingly defeated, instead of reacting and been scared the news immediately declares him a saviour despite not knowing his intentions after he got up. What if he was like fuck it and started destroying stuff.
6. The time it takes for the squad to find each other after the HALO drop.
10.after capturing Heisenberg and Ford security immediately take them to the top secret hidden base, like what's the logic in that now they know everything not very secret.
11. When Godzilla walks because of his weight the ground should be shaking to the point people wouldn't be able to stand and cars and stuff would be flying everywhere
All of them? You don't need a battery to run a car, just start it. And if it induced charge in the alternator like... that's what the alternator is there for anyway. But whatever, EMPs aren't even real. They're just magic spells used in movies. I'm ok with that. It's just kind of tired. Sick Dino-lightning though. That's the shit.