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Gran Turismo 5 Spec II |OT| - We Love DLC!
- Thread starter Metalmurphy
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And everyone went crazy when Kazunori stated how modeling a Premium car takes 6 months of work.
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...he-first-social-racing-sim/?page=2#top_banner
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...he-first-social-racing-sim/?page=2#top_banner
Metalmurphy
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In fairness they are saying seven man months, not seven months
It was obviously the same case in gt5, otherwise the math doesn't add up.
I thought he was saying each car takes 6 months, I can't really remember though so I am quite happy to be shown wrong.
Metalmurphy
Member
What ever the wording they used, what they meant was obvious, otherwise GT5 would ship with like 20 cars.
SolidSnakex
Member
Here's what Kaz said
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2007/12/kazunori-yamauchi-dishes-more-gran-turismo-5-details/
It sounds very similar to the DriveClub quote.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
GT5 save game mods are out in the wild, tutorials for credit, BHP and suspension have been posted on nextgenupdate forums.
GT6 ruined.
GT6 ruined.
Metalmurphy
Member
How does this ruin GT6?
Probably he thinks about similarities of the code.
GT6 will 99,9% run on the same source-code as GT5. With knowledge of the source-code, GT6 gamefiles will not be protected from hacks.
Thus, public online could be ruined very easily.
Yeah, damn rad development. Somebody should tweet Kaz with the link from NGU.
Metalmurphy
Member
As long as they're made aware of this I can't imagine it would be that hard to block it again.
Even GT5 can be patched to fix it.
Even GT5 can be patched to fix it.
Graphics Horse
Member
Cars should only be allowed to have upgrades that they're allowed to have and adjusted in the way they'd be allowed to be adjusted, so yes this sounds fixable. I'm not sure what values are being tweaked but it should be possible to confirm every car is legal or not.
It would be harder to block people with free money and free cars but that's not a big concern.
SolidSnakex
Member
This is pretty cool
http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-deep-forest-greenwood-raceway-iowa/
It's hard to believe that PD would've just ran across it. It was a track that was only open for 4 years and has been closed for nearly 50.
http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-deep-forest-greenwood-raceway-iowa/
It's hard to believe that PD would've just ran across it. It was a track that was only open for 4 years and has been closed for nearly 50.
seattle6418
Member
The only Gran Turismo i expect announced for PS3 is GT Academy 2013. Other than that, i´ll want it on PS4.
But if that´s really the case of a GT6 on PS3, then online leaderboards and matchmaking will soften the blow. I can work around the other flaws/shortcomings.
But if that´s really the case of a GT6 on PS3, then online leaderboards and matchmaking will soften the blow. I can work around the other flaws/shortcomings.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
ps3 has no save game encryption.
gt6 will be exposed on day one, there's no way polyphony can stop the onslaught of filthy cheaters, they'll always find a way.
i couldn't resist so i had a dabble at a car colour mod
Metalmurphy
Member
PD can encrypt/lock their own saves.
Also, sync games online with PDs servers. Problem solved.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
will do a yellow version another time and i'm not sure about obtaining them without modding.
why don't you want to mod the save? it only takes a few seconds to change the colour once you've got the value.
Graphics Horse
Member
I had a look, you backup your save data to USB from the XMB and then modify it on your PC. They are encrypted but presumably what Wax Free means is the encryption has been busted. Actually I'm looking at a months old page, I should find the right one.
SolidSnakex
Member
Remember Kaz saying that he wanted the FIA GT license for GT5, but time just ran out? Well, we know that he visited their offices recently. Now we have this
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=275375
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=275375
Metalmurphy
Member
All they need is the SLS, Z4, V8 Vantage, Ford GT, MP4-12c, 458, Corvette C6R (basically the ZR1RM), Nismo GTR (GTR TC), R8 LMS (convert standard to premium) and Gallardo LP600. The only cars that are likely to be replaced in the near future are a small update to the R8, the C7R and maybe the Lamborghini. PD already has 3 of these cars basically done. The Z4 is the only one that is not in GT5 as a production car. I do not think it is unreasonable to think FIA GT will be in the next GT. If they put in the MC12, DBR9, Saleen S7R and Murcialago from the good old GT1 days that would be ace.
Watch them then waste the license completely.
Pretty hard to waste. FIA GT does not have super specific rules or unique formatting like NASCAR or WRC. All they would need to do is classify the cars correctly. In addition they should also allow performance upgrades so certain cars change from classification to classification (GTE, to FIA GT3, to FIA GT1, etc).
I do not have high expectations for GT if the next one is one the PS3. If it is on the PS4 PD really need these three things though: livery editor, track editor (at least more options to current random generation system... but a Mod Nation Racers type mechanic would be preferred. This would obviously include road, dirt, snow, etc), and a custom race editor for both Ai and MP.
With these systems in place, PD could make GT Next Gen a single title for the PS4 and just add new content as time passes. This would obviously lend itself to some type of season pass. If the title was promised to be supported for the entire generation, I bet many people would be ok with this.
Then once the PS4 hits mass market price (<$200) and the new console is approaching make GT Next Gen a Free2Play game with the majority of the at launch included and the rest available for reasonable prices. Those who loath F2P already have the game and have paid the way they want to pay so they are not being forced into a bad situation.
Then when the next next gen GT comes out the process repeats. Retail unit with DLC over time and then transitioning to F2P at the end of its life.
This way PD and SCE expand their audience and maintain their core following.
Good idea? Bad idea?
fu3lfr3nzy
Member
With new cars like LaFerrari and P1 having KERS or DRS systems, for future GT titles can we expect PD to let us use these technologies or they'll be permanently disabled ingame?
I don't doubt they will have the cars. It's more the race structure and championship structure I am talking about. WRC license and no WRC championship series, stuff like that gives me no faith. I can understand with NASCAR, oval racing is not something their handling model does very well, but there was no reason for not having a very solid rally mode.
I would like your idea a lot more if PD had shown any ability to do decent DLC this gen.
SolidSnakex
Member
I'm really hoping that the Veneno is in GT6. I'm really not a fan of Lambo designs, but that design is so damn insane that it's hard not to love it.
Is it possible to mod the paint chips and PP? I know you can change the Horse Power and credits but heard nothing about the PP or paint chips.
The PP is the most important one, since if that's changed these things can get around the lobby locks.
Tacky is the word I would use. Did michael bay designed it?
SolidSnakex
Member
Tacky would be appropriate as well. It's unlike anything i've ever seen. Too bad the interior design is a letdown
It has such a futuristic exterior design that it's surprising that they didn't go for the same style with the interior. They should've gone 100% with that style just like the GT by Citroen.
In a world of boring, safe, unimaginative car design sometimes you need to appreciate when a designer snorts cocaine and pens a car.
Edit: It does look like the high faded when the designer did the interior.
Personally, I want to see more unique cars like the XJ13.
Spectral Glider
Member
It's horrible....looks like a crappy Batmobile mixed with KITT's super pursuit mode....you know, when the show had long since jumped the shark and people were no longer watching
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Yeah, any PS3/firmware.
Not sure how the modding started - Sorg on GTPlanet? Some chap called Aldo developed Bruteforce SaveData which is used to decrypt the save.
Business
Member
I'm not a fan of Lamborghinis but this particular interior looks hideous, straight from an '80s futuristic movie. With the due respect to the italian flag, putting the flag colours in the controls is almost childish.
SolidSnakex
Member
So no games have released trailers for the new supercars? Strange. I guess everything is going into lockdown until the next round of games are unveiled.
I am surprised the NSX Concept has not been released. The interior has already been revealed so... like you said, I guess they are saving it.
SolidSnakex
Member
Kaz just posted this on his Facebook page (he's been visiting the Red Bull Hangar)
No text with it. He's also been "liking" a lot photos of supercars that were shown recently. The Veneno is one of them.
No text with it. He's also been "liking" a lot photos of supercars that were shown recently. The Veneno is one of them.
KaidoRacer7
Member
I always think that is strange not have any Red Bull F1 car in GT5 with all RB love
SolidSnakex
Member
I think some have said that the lack of the F1 car was due to licensing problems. Ferrari owns their branding, so they can sub-license their cars out to any game that they want. Other cars may be under the F1 banner, which would mean that only Codemasters has access to them.
Wax Free Vanilla
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i don't believe it.
there's no way any of the teams in f1 have given their image/brand rights to the demon headmaster. sony need to pay up like they did for the bonus cars that featured in their f1 games - these were licensed directly from the manufacturer.
currently active teams that have licensed their grand prix cars out:
mclaren
williams
ferrari
sauber
others:
brawn
classic team lotus
cooper
jordan
honda
renault
if gt6 doesn't have at least 30 premium gp cars covering 6 decades of racing heads need to be rolled.
there's no way any of the teams in f1 have given their image/brand rights to the demon headmaster. sony need to pay up like they did for the bonus cars that featured in their f1 games - these were licensed directly from the manufacturer.
currently active teams that have licensed their grand prix cars out:
mclaren
williams
ferrari
sauber
others:
brawn
classic team lotus
cooper
jordan
honda
renault
if gt6 doesn't have at least 30 premium gp cars covering 6 decades of racing heads need to be rolled.
fu3lfr3nzy
Member
Wait wait wait hold up...... Kaz has a FB page/account?
Dave_6
Member
I will be so fucking happy if they put generations of F1 cars in the next GT game!
SolidSnakex
Member
I don't know if it's true, I was just pointing out that it's the speculation that some came up with. We know that there are a lot of bullshit rules that surround F1 in general (like how Monaco is a no go without the license), so it wouldn't be shocking if that were one of them. And Ferrari has such a big name that it also wouldn't be shocking if they made sure to retain all rights to it and the properties that they develop.
The only way that we'd know for sure is if someone interviewed Kaz or Codemasters about it.
http://www.facebook.com/kazunori.yamauchi.58
Considering they didn't even have a race for the F1 cars in the GT5 to race in, sans the seasonal event, I guess heads will roll. GT6 IMO: more premiums, a few more tracks, no revamp of a-spec/b-spec/events, minor updates to driving physics, and no change to AI. $60.....
I'll still buy it though
SolidSnakex
Member
Your expectations are much lower than mind, and that might be a good strategy to take. But I really expect GT6 to be a complete revamp of the series. From the dropping of standards to A-Spec.
I just want 40 new tracks in various categories and ability to make more elaborate courses in Course Editor with 10+ new surroundings. Everything else can stay 100% the same, I wouldn't care - I do not need a single new car added, or whatever. Simply do not care.
For a full frenzy I would welcome ability to change oil in pits in all type of sessions, ability to race B-Spec Bobs in multiplayer online and ability to watch replay while chatting in lobby.
Everything above that would be a godsend.
Where does that puts me?
SolidSnakex
Member
I just want 40 new tracks in various categories and ability to make more elaborate courses in Course Editor with 10+ new surroundings. Everything else can stay 100% the same, I wouldn't care - I do not need a single new car added, or whatever. Simply do not care.
For a full frenzy I would welcome ability to change oil in pits in all type of sessions, ability to race B-Spec Bobs in multiplayer online and ability to watch replay while chatting in lobby.
Everything above that would be a godsend.
Where does that puts me?
Still lower than my expectations with the exception of expecting 40 new tracks (i'm expecting about 20-30). One of the reasons i'm expecting big changes is due to Kaz saying that he would've want two additional years to work on GT5. This gives him three additional years. He's also mentioned that they were building stuff for GT5 that just didn't make the cut (livery editor, different racing licenses etc.). A-Spec mode in general sticks out as something that seemed rushed. So, I expect that to be very different in GT6.