The gameplay shown low key looks like an early PS4 game. It has scale, undoubtedly, but other than that it looks trash, lighting, texture quality or geometry to name a few look weak.We have people on this forum praising FROM Software for these ugly ass, PS3 era graphics.
As long as devs think this is good enough (thanks to low standards by fans), the majority of them wont ever show any ambition or desire to push fidelity anymore.
We're fucked.
This is par the course for all FROM games. Just an abysmal studio tech wise.
Nah, I was just raving about BB, DS3 and Sekiro in the other thread. ER is open world and obviously looks worse than those linear games but they have come a long way from their awful couple of entries in DeS and DS1. I know Sony Japan helped a lot with BB and both DS3 and especially Sekiro benefited from whatever FromSoft learned from their dev on BB.
Yeah I know. I want to give it a benefit of a doubt
Same. If you can, go back and play the Uncharted 4 chase sequence in 4k 40+ fps. it's native 4k, looks insane and feels way better than the 30 fps version. The very next open world island level you explore on a boat is also very gorgeous with some stunning HDR.
I really like the unlocked performance without RT. You get the sharp resolution with the high framerate and the only down side was less dense population and standard reflection. But 40fps mode was incredibly smooth.
I also played UC4 + LL in that mode and it was so clean and smooth compared to 30fps mode. And yeah i also noticed the jitter in GOW, i just had to set it to 60fps mode which looked almost the same as 30 mode.
As a gamer, would you rather a studio release one technically polished game every 5 years or 2-3 games every 5 years that are visually less impressive? FromSoft has such good gameplay mechanics that I can overlook mediocre graphics. And I'd rather not wait 4-5 years for every release like most studios
And to think this runs on xbox 360... such powerfull console for its age...
Wait... this is for SeriesX/PS5?
The asset quality in that game barely ever slips. The budget is really showing here."Secondary" character in Forbidden West, 100% ingame
That’s true. It’s because of folks like him that devs are slacking and phoning things in.
Truly impressive."Secondary" character in Forbidden West, 100% ingame
Technical quality isn’t correlated with artistic quality. This is purely fidelity no matter what art direction…
I wonder when people say these things if they even consider how other people would react and what would the counter arguments be. Obviously not.
Definitely looks like a PS4 release title.
This. FROM makes way too much money to not have updated there engine and graphics pipeline by now. Its Pure Complacency and Greed.
It takes way longer to balance gameplay well than it does to create assets of suitible technical proficiency.
The final 1-2 years of the generation you'll get monster titles like Last of Us 3, GTA6 etc... that'll look very spectacular. But those kind of games have the the benefit of essentially having access to the highest budgets in the industry, the best engineers, tech and also time. 5yrs+ of dev time for the studios to craft a fine tuned experience at their lesiure. I think that's the kind of mix needed for studios to maximise the feature set of engines like UE5, however they're the exception not the norm.
You can fill the whole planet with stolen sandwiches, talk about nextgen mechanics.Boy oh boy, we are now rating graphics based on their utility??? Incredible. If there is no direct tie-in to gameplay, then nice visuals might as well be prerendered, Slimy says. You should be excommunicated from this thread for uttering such nonsense. Rofif and I will convene and notify you of our final decision (subject to ResetEraVIP's blessings of course).
The real question is, what the heck is there to do in this ugly, barren wasteland???
How so? FROM games could do with some improvement in certain aspects, such as frame pacing, but it's a bit of a stretch to go this far. Clearly the audience that buys FROM game isn't fixated on the visuals, but more so the combat, world design, art direction and general game systems/features.
Now i am become crossgen, the destroyer of expectations.I am dying here.
I always find this interpretation funny. The notion that because alot of there fans seem graphicly satisfied that its some indicator of a mutualy agreed upon marker being met. If that was the case then they would use the gameplay graphics on the games cover or in the initial cgi teaser or during its non gameplay promotional shots or even in there clearly visualy updated garage. Yet they and every dev under the sun doesnt do that do they? What they do is use the absolute highest quality visuals for there inital communication to fans as well as on all marketing publications including the games cover. They included better visuals in th assembly stage because that is what they wished the game looked like. The only reason it doesnt is because there fans keep acting like its not important to "ever" improve it and have sent that message loud and clear which Im sure is pretty disapointing to there main art team but it sure allows them an excuse to never reinvest the money nessessary to upgrade there tech accordingly. They want better visuals in there games just as much as I do but there not willing to sacrifice the dough to make it happen because there complacent and greedy.
Far as I can see FROM haven't released any current gen only games have they? So you're jumping the gun assuming they wont move beyond the visuals we got in cross-gen Elden Ring. Also it seems they were smart with ER development. They had 5-6 versions to develop or whatever for launch, it was their biggest project ever, a limited budget, a release time frame and so they elected to focus on making a game they could realistically release within that framework - that wasn't a hot mess and was both a playable and enjoyable experience.
Its not a zero sum game. If they really wanted too they could have increased the size of there art team and set up a more Robust R&D team inbetween titles since they sure can afford it. There is zero reason that should effect gameplay. At this point im not even talking about a next gen upgrade but woukd it kill them to upgrade it to at least 2015 expectations. Texture resolutions look ambysmal, there lighting is still flat as usual and they still dont have any self shadowing during gameplay. So far there doesnt seem to be any PS5 upgrades for its version outside of resolution/framerate.
A couple of things. This was made by the sekiro team which last released a game in March 2019. So it took them roughly 4.5 years to make this game. Why they didnt just make this a next gen only game when starting literally a month before PS5 devkits were sent is definitely criticism worthy. Also, we talk about visuals taking up precious dev time, and yet you yourself mentioned how they had to ship 5-6 versions of ER and now AC6. That sounds like a lot of dev work to me.
Demon souls is another 4k 30 fps game dude. If it runs at native 4k on a 10 tflops console, it will run at 1080p on a 2.5 tflops console. 900p on a 1.8 tflops GPU like the PS4.
You were trying to make sense until you threw Spiderman 2 at the end there, lol.
