M1987
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Why? you can get over 60fps on your 3080 at 4k DLSS Balanced at high settings with textures at cinematic
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Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I tried that for an hour. Looked good but not great. Set everything to cinematic and 4k dlss quality at 30 fps and it looks very close to the path traced version. Simply stunning.
JimRyanGOAT
Member
Not making an early 2000's Mafia game to capitalize on the massive uptick in Sopranos popularity is really surprising
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
these games take 4-5 years to make. chasing fads and tiktok/youtube trends that are forgotten in a week is never a good idea. thats how we got concord.
JimRyanGOAT
Member
True regarding Concord and fads
But an early 2000's Mafia game would be amazing imo
Its not just Sopranos which is a cultural hit, its the culture, nostalgia, and timing that all align
M1987
Member
It's obviously not as good looking as the cinematic settings,but I still think it looks great, and quite easily top 5 of the gen even on high settings
Hawking Radiation
Member
elbourreau
Member
WTFF with those crushed black levels ? IS it the HDR > SDR that breaks everything or do you play with those ?Black Myth Wukong (4587*1920 DLDSR, DLSS, Path Tracing, Special K HDR, Reshade)
Chapter 2 looks a bit like the UE5 Demo, but otherwise Im very impressed with the graphics.
Im using Special K which as far as I know emulates SDR to HDR, but tbh it looks weird on screenshots, but ok ingame.
Are you looking at the screens with a HDR screen?
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Toots
Gold Member
My point is that, broadly speaking, the capacity for work of chinese people is tremendously superior than that of westerners. So if it takes a year for a westerner to do something, a chinese will do it in 6 month, especially since the CCP doesn't care about silly stuff like labour legislation...
So even if chinese devs lack in experience, they make up for it in workload (which gives experience in addition).
Johnny Concrete
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Black Myth is blowing me away. It is by far the most consistent and beautiful game i've played this gen. sorry Avatar. Sorry Hellblade. Sorry Callisto. We have a new king in town.
This game just does everything right. It nails the photorealistic art style. It has some of the most detailed assets ive ever seen. I have never been turned on by wooden planks before. It does all the other visual effects justice. Smoke? Physics based. Water? Physics based. Fire? Best fucking fire ive ever seen. Period. Trees? Most realistically shaded trees ive ever seen. And to top it off it has that cinematography that made Callisto and Hellblade 2 feel like a movie at times.
I wish i could post my forest gifs because the trees look so beautiful but gifcam is adding all these shimmering jaggies and its ruining the IQ which is pristine on my screen. Even gifs cant capture just how beautiful this game really is.
This game just does everything right. It nails the photorealistic art style. It has some of the most detailed assets ive ever seen. I have never been turned on by wooden planks before. It does all the other visual effects justice. Smoke? Physics based. Water? Physics based. Fire? Best fucking fire ive ever seen. Period. Trees? Most realistically shaded trees ive ever seen. And to top it off it has that cinematography that made Callisto and Hellblade 2 feel like a movie at times.
I wish i could post my forest gifs because the trees look so beautiful but gifcam is adding all these shimmering jaggies and its ruining the IQ which is pristine on my screen. Even gifs cant capture just how beautiful this game really is.
Balducci30
Member
Do we know if this holds true for the PS5 version?Black Myth is blowing me away. It is by far the most consistent and beautiful game i've played this gen. sorry Avatar. Sorry Hellblade. Sorry Callisto. We have a new king in town.
This game just does everything right. It nails the photorealistic art style. It has some of the most detailed assets ive ever seen. I have never been turned on by wooden planks before. It does all the other visual effects justice. Smoke? Physics based. Water? Physics based. Fire? Best fucking fire ive ever seen. Period. Trees? Most realistically shaded trees ive ever seen. And to top it off it has that cinematography that made Callisto and Hellblade 2 feel like a movie at times.
I wish i could post my forest gifs because the trees look so beautiful but gifcam is adding all these shimmering jaggies and it’s ruining the IQ which is pristine on my screen. Even gifs cant capture just how beautiful this game really is.
arkhamguy123
Member
The state of next gen when our Killzone shadow fall moment comes halfway through the goddamn entire generation from some no name, rinky dink, obscure, low budget Chinese developersBlack Myth is blowing me away. It is by far the most consistent and beautiful game i've played this gen. sorry Avatar. Sorry Hellblade. Sorry Callisto. We have a new king in town.
This game just does everything right. It nails the photorealistic art style. It has some of the most detailed assets ive ever seen. I have never been turned on by wooden planks before. It does all the other visual effects justice. Smoke? Physics based. Water? Physics based. Fire? Best fucking fire ive ever seen. Period. Trees? Most realistically shaded trees ive ever seen. And to top it off it has that cinematography that made Callisto and Hellblade 2 feel like a movie at times.
I wish i could post my forest gifs because the trees look so beautiful but gifcam is adding all these shimmering jaggies and its ruining the IQ which is pristine on my screen. Even gifs cant capture just how beautiful this game really is.
Senua
Gold Member
I rate the PS5 version FSR2 out of 10
Balducci30
Member
So just bad image quality stuff like alan wake?
PC version is quite impressive.
But there is one important missing.
Lack of HDR is really huge blow.
Good HDR is important part of good presentation.
GooseMan69
Member
Black Myth is blowing me away. It is by far the most consistent and beautiful game i've played this gen. sorry Avatar. Sorry Hellblade. Sorry Callisto. We have a new king in town.
This game just does everything right. It nails the photorealistic art style. It has some of the most detailed assets ive ever seen. I have never been turned on by wooden planks before. It does all the other visual effects justice. Smoke? Physics based. Water? Physics based. Fire? Best fucking fire ive ever seen. Period. Trees? Most realistically shaded trees ive ever seen. And to top it off it has that cinematography that made Callisto and Hellblade 2 feel like a movie at times.
I wish i could post my forest gifs because the trees look so beautiful but gifcam is adding all these shimmering jaggies and its ruining the IQ which is pristine on my screen. Even gifs cant capture just how beautiful this game really is.
Agree wholeheartedly. And I’m playing the somewhat gimped console version. It kicks the shit out of everything I’ve played up to now.
Fantastic game all around.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Just got to the second area and wow. This straight up looks like the PS5 demo. Very similar lighting design and asset quality.
For some bizarre reason, some meshes just have no textures. straight up FF7 Rebirth quality. i thought UE5 was supposed to fix this? But then 99% of the level looks stunning like this.
They just need to lock that 30 fps mode. I suspect they are leaving it unlocked for the PS5 Pro which should run the same mode at 60 fps when it comes out.
For some bizarre reason, some meshes just have no textures. straight up FF7 Rebirth quality. i thought UE5 was supposed to fix this? But then 99% of the level looks stunning like this.
I watched the latest DF video where they compare the PC settings to the PS5 version, and its mostly high settings. The biggest thing you are losing out on are trees that move and some extra physics on the smoke and wind simulations. The game also sits at 1440p internal resolution so you are getting a pretty decent 4k output. FSR is only bad when you go down to 1080p.
They just need to lock that 30 fps mode. I suspect they are leaving it unlocked for the PS5 Pro which should run the same mode at 60 fps when it comes out.
Luipadre
Member
Chapter 3 is even worse. I said it before, but the games graphics is really inconsistent
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
yeah, i noticed that on PC too, so i just set it to cinematic settings which kills the framerate, but i figured id rather play at 30 fps with no shadows being drawn in than 40 or 60 fps with shadows popping in like textures pre-nanite. the game doesnt support virtual shadow maps even on PC. Looks like nvidia signed a deal with them to add rt shadows and they never bothered implementing virtual shadow maps even on PC. There is apparently a mod for it, but cinematic setting seems to be holding up fine in the first two chapters.
That sucks to hear because chapter 1 was so damn consistent. However, im not too upset about some low quality meshes. it happens. im sure its a bug with nanite. the lighting in that level is gorgeous and easily the best desert level lighting ive seen since uncharted 3 all those years ago. so many games just fail to get the bounce lighting right in desert levels.
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GooseMan69
Member
Fuck it looks so good 
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Just got to the second area and wow. This straight up looks like the PS5 demo. Very similar lighting design and asset quality.
For some bizarre reason, some meshes just have no textures. straight up FF7 Rebirth quality. i thought UE5 was supposed to fix this? But then 99% of the level looks stunning like this.
I watched the latest DF video where they compare the PC settings to the PS5 version, and its mostly high settings. The biggest thing you are losing out on are trees that move and some extra physics on the smoke and wind simulations. The game also sits at 1440p internal resolution so you are getting a pretty decent 4k output. FSR is only bad when you go down to 1080p.
They just need to lock that 30 fps mode. I suspect they are leaving it unlocked for the PS5 Pro which should run the same mode at 60 fps when it comes out.
Why doesn't Black Myth have HDR? This hurts not having that. UE5 typically always comes with HDR ...strange ...could it arrive in a future patch?
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
At 30 fps the image quality is fine. Much better than AW2. It has some minor artifacts in certain areas, like particle effects and fog has em. It doesnt have the shimmering and aliasing that AW2 suffers from.
Jesb
Member
Black Myth Wukong (4587*1920 DLDSR, DLSS, Path Tracing, Special K HDR, Reshade)
Looks really great, Nanite is clearly visible, and Path Tracing ensures almost perfect lightning.
what is it about snowy cave type of environments that just oozes atmosphere for me. Damn this game looks great.
I use HDR it with Special K, which basically works like Auto HDR one Windows 11 and it looks great.
Tomi
Member
Rtx hdr kills both of those, it will have some preformanxe hit but oh my it looks epic
Here ya go.
Better shadows tweak - force Unreal Virtual shadows.
This ini tweak force the game to use the UE5 Virtual Shadowmap instead of the in game ugly shadowmaps
www.nexusmods.com
Bojji
Member
Here ya go.
Better shadows tweak - force Unreal Virtual shadows.
This ini tweak force the game to use the UE5 Virtual Shadowmap instead of the in game ugly shadowmaps
I'm sure they did this to make RT shadows look better. Same story for lack of reflex toggle.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Thanks. Shadows are much better than cinematic settings im using. No more flickering in the benchmark under foliage. However, during gameplay there are constant hitches even when im at a locked 30 fps, and in the forest area the performance is dropping below 30 fps.Here ya go.
Better shadows tweak - force Unreal Virtual shadows.
This ini tweak force the game to use the UE5 Virtual Shadowmap instead of the in game ugly shadowmaps
going to stick with cinematic for now.
Balducci30
Member
Yeah this is not normal right? Last gen it felt like it was bespoke engines that always came out on top and UE4 would just come close but never get to that level.
Self_Destructive
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Msamy
Member
Epic games not neglect searching and updating graphics tech unlike most of sony studios up until now
Msamy
Member
Epic games not neglect searching and updating graphics tech unlike most of sony studios up until now
Masterpiece
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Hawking Radiation
Member
Everything is too clean.
Janky animations.
Same brain dead AI.
Shoot. Peek. Shoot some more. Fucking hell
I legit want to go into a gun battle where I'm already soiling myself before even firing the first round. AI should be smart as fuck but also realize when they're getting bested.
Graphics isn't the problem. I'd be fucking happy if we got GTAV level graphics but with a monumental jump forward in AI and game world interactivity/simulation.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
The funny thing is that the foliage in Black Myth doesnt utilize nanite. It's just a mixture of high quality assets, fantastic lighting, draw distance and art design.
this is basically what you get when you arent wasting all 10 tflops on rendering native 4k pixels or 60 fps. You can actually use the gpu to push great looking visuals.
Insomniac didnt need to invest in nanite. Just drop the goddamn resolution to 1440p and use the fucking gpu. both of their next gen games target native 4k, just like tlou part 1. its so fucking stupid. imagine having a 10 inch cock and only using 5 inches of it.
Don’t need to imagine
MrRibeye
Member
During the pre-production phases of Sony projects I worked on, we put 4K60 as the target goal before we even knew what the gameplay or story was. Without any further thought, it nonchalantly became the target for the earliest prototypes, with the mentality being that we start at 4K60 and never drop below during development and if we do, we stop until we're back at 4K60.
Somehow the feeling was that releasing a game below 4K60 in the year 2024 is "inadequate" and that players would complain.
Somehow the feeling was that releasing a game below 4K60 in the year 2024 is "inadequate" and that players would complain.
Represent.
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* Sees Black Myth posts*
Black Myth does NOT look that good on my PS5 lol.
Like it looks good, but theres one of the larger descrepencies of concole vs PC i have seen in a while
PC Version looking mighty in those Slimy gifs.
Black Myth does NOT look that good on my PS5 lol.
Like it looks good, but theres one of the larger descrepencies of concole vs PC i have seen in a while
PC Version looking mighty in those Slimy gifs.
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