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[GymWolf]

True. Thats what my gripe is though that it isnt interactive. Ive wanted interactive voxel based fluid dynamics for like 23 years now. Where so close and it hurts. Arkham is the only series where they have actually implemented it well. Problem is the tech doesnt scale up without well devouring huge amounts of precious scarce memory.

Zelda tokt has interactible fog...

I know it's not as heavy as smoke, but if a switch 1 can do it, every console can do it.

 

[GymWolf]

Ya know ive been playing some old school ps2 via Pcsx2 lately and man old school ragdoll is some fun ass shit. Wouldnt mind the industry adopting a hybrid approach.

I'm ok with both goofy and realistic (although i prefer realistic).

Just be inside the game in some way.

 

[CGNoire]

I'm ok with both goofy and realistic (although i prefer realistic).

Just be inside the game in some way.

I hope we get Euphoria 2.0 finally with gtavi. Fingers crossed.

 

[SlimySnake]

Man can you explain how do you do these gifs?

Gifcam. its fairly simple. open gifcam and put it on top of the video, and hit record.

the trick is getting HDR videos to work well, and making sure 4k videos look nice when scaled down. scale it down too much and it adds shimmering and jaggies, and if you dont, you end up with 50-100 mb gifs.

 

[Critical Hit]

particles

Is the weakest point for me. Don't know why Asians put tons of it in every game, even when it's trying to look realistic.

 

[Critical Hit]

I hope we get Euphoria 2.0 finally with gtavi. Fingers crossed.

There is no Euphoria anymore (sadly). After Rockstar acquired the company, they made euphoria a part of their rage engine.

 

[GymWolf]

I hope we get Euphoria 2.0 finally with gtavi. Fingers crossed.

I fear that all the tech the game is gonna have is gonna push euphoria behind another time, like they don't have room for an actual evolution that is even harder on the system.

Gta5 and rdr2 already had de-powered euphoria that you could fix with mods.

Hopefully i'm wrong but i would not hold my breath.


I don't know if it is the same thing in term of requested power, but you people know i'm playing that medieval 1vs1 game called half sword where the devs created their own faux-euphoria engine for their game (and after 200 hours with the demo i can confirm that it beat euphoria in some aspects like the absolute unpredictability of the ai when they get hit, you can play this game for 1000 hours and still see new animations made on the fly and ai reacting differently, it's kinda nuts), well this game is not even out in early access, it's just a small demo but you can already see the hints of a future booming success if everything goes accordingly (hyper active subreddit, lot of famous streamers playing it, relatively big youtube scene for a "silly" looking game, etc.).

Why i'm saying this? Because these dudes know that turning the game into a multyplayer title would make them 100x times the money than just leaving it single player against the cpu, well they made a video on yt where they made it clear that they asked advice to some of the biggest heads in some of the biggest multyplayer games around the industry (they made names but i can't remember) to make a multyplayer mode...it turns out, their faux-euphoria is too advanced to have a multyplayer counterpart that feels exactly like the single player, they are trying with all their might but they are extremely pessimist about succeeding.

Now, i don't know if turning single player to multyplayer is the same amount of work than just making it work in single player but apparently even an advanced animation system has some complications.

Maybe it's absolutely unrelated, but if you consider that rockstar make the big money in multyplayer, there is a chance that euphoria is not gonna be at his best because it's too heavy to do all the math and calculations for ai and collisions or whatever bullshit for the multyplayer part.

Also rockstar is much bigger than an indie studio so they probably have more solutions but it make you question if they didn't handycapped their euphoria in their past games to make it run online...

 

[GymWolf]

There is no Euphoria anymore (sadly). After Rockstar acquired the company, they made euphoria a part of their rage engine.

Tomato tomato, we still hope for an evolution since euphoria feel different between gta4, rdr1, mp3, gta5 and rdr2, so there has been evolution and changes.

We know that only rockstar can use it.

 

[GymWolf]

Is the weakest point for me. Don't know why Asians put tons of it in every game, even when it's trying to look realistic.

Dude you can go through my post history and i probably said that i hate all these fucking particles everywhere at least 20 times

Gimme more detailed textures and characters over that shit.

 

[T4keD0wN]

Finally wrapping up Wuchang, far from flawless, but its crazy what UE5 allows debut studios with mid budget to do. China has been stepping up big time to fill up the graphics void left by most AAA devs.

 

[Critical Hit]

gta4, rdr1, mp3, gta5 and rdr2, so there has been evolution and changes.

So it euphoria 6.0 then.

 

[SlimySnake]

GTA6 trailer breakdowns show an insane amount of physics that apply to coins inside cash registers, couch cushions, jerseys, necklaces, earings and chains, etc. Now they might be faking all of it like the Half Life Alyx devs did with the moving liquid animations in beer bottles, but i think Rockstar will go heavy on physics like they did with GTA4.

 

[GymWolf]

So it euphoria 6.0 then.

No because it didn't had a precise evolution trajectory.

Some things are better in mp3, some in gta4, some in rdr1 some in rdr2, some in the first star wars game, gta5 probably being the one with the worst version (their most succesful games ironically).

But all the versions are similar enough to call them variations of 1.0, a big evolution could definitely be called 2.0.

It's just nerd semantics.

 

[GymWolf]

GTA6 trailer breakdowns show an insane amount of physics that apply to coins inside cash registers, couch cushions, jerseys, necklaces, earings and chains, etc. Now they might be faking all of it like the Half Life Alyx devs did with the moving liquid animations in beer bottles, but i think Rockstar will go heavy on physics like they did with GTA4.

Hopefully the physics and the animation system don't require the same type of computational power.

There is really no reason for rockstar to downgrade euphoria if not for lack of power.

 

[Balducci30]

I hope this is the worst case of yt blurring details and texture ever or...




huge scope, interactivity, particles and absence of pop in (maybe) seems to be the strong points of the title over detailed textures and models that are just ok\good.

It really,undoubtedly look like a videogame ass graphic.

Going from playing delta maxed out to watch this was a huge whiplash.

See I don't mind something like this looking gamey - the graphics are still better than most games out. If a game does more than most other games in terms of interactivity, world, etc - then I'm cool with the graphics taking a slight hit. GTA6 somehow avoids this but that's apparently a 2 billion dollar budget

 

[PeteBull]

GTA6 trailer breakdowns show an insane amount of physics that apply to coins inside cash registers, couch cushions, jerseys, necklaces, earings and chains, etc. Now they might be faking all of it like the Half Life Alyx devs did with the moving liquid animations in beer bottles, but i think Rockstar will go heavy on physics like they did with GTA4.

Yup, that builds hella immersion combined with this lvl of graphic fidelity, i think what GTA6 will provide us with will be roughly on the lvl next gen only AAA blockbusters on avg will look like, so assuming both next gen consoles will be out by holidays 2027 (according to the leaks)and till 2030 we gonna get crossgen period(yuck), games from 2030 onwards from more "normal" dev studios with AAA but not crazy budgets will be able to achieve that

Another thing we gotta remember about is- gta5 had tons of scalability, gta6 will likely have that too.
Thats how it runs/looks on ps360:


And thats definitive edition on current gen consoles, with rt(i dont even bring up pc version):

 

[GymWolf]

Man, the NPC faces are well modelled for a game of this (likely) volume.

I'm assuming they're using Metahuman?

 

[GymWolf]

Btw delta looks great, more than expected.

Some meh faces (can't understand why with such a small cast) and rocks not being hb2 rocks are the only noticeable flaws for now.

It may actually look better than wukong in some aspects.

But Like, how you go from sokolov looking like a ps4 launch character face wise to snake and volgin looking like proper metahumans? It's very jarring.

Women also look inferior.

Volgin looks great, a bit cartoonish but very detailed.

Even better live.

 

[Gonzito]

Btw delta looks great, more than expected.

Some meh faces (can't understand why with such a small cast) and rocks not being hb2 rocks are the only noticeable flaws for now.

It may actually look better than wukong in some aspects.

But Like, how you go from sokolov looking like a ps4 launch character face wise to snake and volgin looking like proper metahumans? It's very jarring.

Women also look inferior.

Volgin looks great, a bit cartoonish but very detailed.

Even better live.

The game looks amazing, the character models are really good, Snake looks awesome. Enjoy the game papi

 

[CGNoire]

Btw delta looks great, more than expected.

Some meh faces (can't understand why with such a small cast) and rocks not being hb2 rocks are the only noticeable flaws for now.

It may actually look better than wukong in some aspects.

But Like, how you go from sokolov looking like a ps4 launch character face wise to snake and volgin looking like proper metahumans? It's very jarring.

Women also look inferior.

Volgin looks great, a bit cartoonish but very detailed.

Even better live.

Show sokolov

 

[GymWolf]

Show sokolov

Searching for a good frontal pic, he look like a videogame character face instead of tricking my brain like some other faces.

This one is flattering enough i guess

But it look most often like this

It just look like a videogamey face, you are gonna understand when you play the game.

 

[Gonzito]

 

[GymWolf]

Dude need a fleshlight for stress relief and to see where the fuck he's going.

 

[Gonzito]

Dude need a fleshlight for stress relief and to see where the fuck he's going.

Man its so weird. When I make screenshots in my TV, the screenshots look incredible, lighting included. When I upload them here they look all dark. It's so frustrating

More screenshots as a test, please let me know guys if its again too dark

 

[GymWolf]

First and third are ok, second one is dark.

 

[Bojji]

Btw delta looks great, more than expected.

Some meh faces (can't understand why with such a small cast) and rocks not being hb2 rocks are the only noticeable flaws for now.

It may actually look better than wukong in some aspects.

But Like, how you go from sokolov looking like a ps4 launch character face wise to snake and volgin looking like proper metahumans? It's very jarring.

Women also look inferior.

Volgin looks great, a bit cartoonish but very detailed.

Even better live.

Yep, game looks good:

Low quality helmet but textures on clothing are awesome.

 

[analog_future]

I've never played a single MGS game. Maybe it's time to jump in.

 

[Gonzito]

 

[GymWolf]

Yep, game looks good:

Low quality helmet but textures on clothing are awesome.

Yeah sometimes there is that low fidelity stuff like the airplane that look like ps4 material.

But the average is pretty high, clothes are SHARP.

Hairs are also ps4-ish.

Shadows, veilguard, fifa etc. Do better.

Gonzito don't spoil the boss face dude, i wanna see the pain first in my screen, i'm a sucker for good body horror.

 

[Gonzito]

Yeah sometimes there is that low fidelity stuff like the airplane that look like ps4 material.

But the average is pretty high, clothes are SHARP.

Hairs are also ps4-ish.

Shadows, veilguard, fifa etc. Do better.

Gonzito don't spoil the boss face dude, i wanna see the pain first in my screen, i'm a sucker for good body horror.

I removed it. By the way do the screenshots look better now? less dark? I tried upping the brightness quite a bit

 

[GymWolf]

I removed it. By the way do the screenshots look better now? less dark? I tried upping the brightness quite a bit

They still look a bit dark but it's probably normal given the scene.

Not a fan of the piss filter tbh.

 

[PeteBull]

I've never played a single MGS game. Maybe it's time to jump in.

MGS series is a staple and huge part of gaming history, get to it, bro!!!
While u are at it dont forget about:

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

Guys current day PC can play 12 year old game at higher settings/framerate than 2025 one!!

 

[mrMUR_96]

Guys current day PC can play 12 year old game at higher settings/framerate than 2025 one!!

Tbf Crysis 3 looks crazy good for its age and is pretty well optimised. Shame Crytek has been in such a poor state, would love to see them push graphics again, they always seemed ahead of the curve visually.

 

[Represent.]

This shit is going to be insane. The Beta has unmatched War atmosphere. Cannot wait to dive into the campaign first before everything else.

 

[mrMUR_96]

This shit is going to be insane. The Beta has unmatched War atmosphere. Cannot wait to dive into the campaign first before everything else.

Wish it had RT options, but looks good still. Curious what the SP will be like. Beta was crazy fun though, been way too long since we've had a good battlefield game.

 

[Msamy]

Finally wrapping up Wuchang, far from flawless, but its crazy what UE5 allows debut studios with mid budget to do. China has been stepping up big time to fill up the graphics void left by most AAA devs.

Meanwhile sony first party give you this lol

 

[GymWolf]

Meanwhile sony first party give you this lol

 

[Gonzito]

Meanwhile sony first party give you this lol

The graphics are looking very rough. What the heck

 

[metareferential]

The graphics are looking very rough. What the heck

It's been more than 5 years since next-gen. It shows.

Sony's best looking games are enhanced PS4 games.

 

[Msamy]

The graphics are looking very rough. What the heck

And some morons on other theard think it's looking good, lol fuc. sony ninjas

 

[Luipadre]

If you play MGS DELTA, definitely play it with DLSS4. Looks so much better. Insane how sharp and detailed everything looks. You can zoom in during cutscenes with left trigger and everything remains sharp and detailed af

 

[DanielG165]

Era is upset over this and im like this looks CG lol

I have always felt out of touch with the mainstream gaming audience, but nowadays i feel more alienated than ever. Why dont we like good graphics anymore? Who gives a shit if the bloom is gone? We HATED bloom 20 years ago. It looks better than the CG pachinko cutscenes.

I'd still say that the first image is more artistically pleasing than the second one, inferior graphics aside.

 

[Bojji]

Lost Soul Aside looks ok but quite basic. With poor textures and flickering shadows.

PS5 Pro:

Runs good on Pro outside of stutters before and after battle.

 

[analog_future]

Lost Soul Aside looks ok but quite basic. With poor textures and flickering shadows.

PS5 Pro:

Runs good on Pro outside of stutters before and after battle.

Uhh that looks atrocious. Forspoken vibes (but worse).

 

[Buggy Loop]

Those playing MGS delta on PC, is it that bad?

 

[RavionUHD]

Im playing MGS Delta on PC using a RTX 5080.
First of all you need to use these configurations to unlock the 60 FPS lock, enable Ultrawide and Frame Generation with Reflex:


This is the result, Im playing in 4857*1920P Ultrawide with DLDSR, using DLSS 4 Transformer model, Reshade and RTX HDR (native HDR doesnt work with DLDSR):

It runs very smooth and looks very good, especially all these details in the enviroment.

 

[Bojji]

Uhh that looks atrocious. Forspoken vibes (but worse).

Compared to PC. PC has RT for shadows and reflections.

But even without RT shadows look much better and hair? DLSS fixes them:

As always, looks darker on PC captures because of HDR.

Those playing MGS delta on PC, is it that bad?

No.

 

[SlimySnake]

Meanwhile sony first party give you this lol

At some point, it becomes a self respect thing. No developer should be ok with putting this out on a next gen console. looks like sony has caught the nintendo bug. or maybe Japan in general. lets not forget FF7 Rebirth looked like an abortion after a stunning late gen title in FF7 remake. Platinum made arguably the most despicable and disgusting looking game of all time in bayonetta 3. A visual rape. From has been going backwards since bloodborne being carried solely by their art team. Donkey Kong is from Nintendo's A team that made Mario Odyssey and looks like it was made by the C team at an indian studio run by scammers. Death Stranding 2's lack of next gen visuals i can excuse because kojima was literally going blind after getting covid. But Rise Of Ronin? It probably blinded people with its ugly trees.

Thank god for Capcom embracing ray tracing and hair physics this gen. RE9 looks decent at least, and Pragmata simply looks phenomenal. Other than these guys, everyone else sucked even more than Sony first party studios.

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

Wish it had RT options, but looks good still. Curious what the SP will be like. Beta was crazy fun though, been way too long since we've had a good battlefield game.

There is no excuse to not have some RT options. 2042 had RT options.