SniperHunter
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Mod doesn't run well on ATI cards, you will probably be able to run at 15 FPS.
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GTA4 + iCEnhancer mod. Holy mother of god.
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Mod doesn't run well on ATI cards, you will probably be able to run at 15 FPS.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
What about Nvidia cards? I have a GeForce GT 650m. i7 3.6ghz. 16GB 1600 DDR3.
SniperHunter
Banned
Your CPU is good and so is the ram, save some money and invest it in a better card. Is that a laptop card? I am guessing you will get about 20 FPS but to improve performance you might have to set most sliders on low.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
It's a laptop, and everything is soldered to the mobo, so it can't change, unfortunately. I'll give it a whirl. If it's really super awesome and my laptop can't run it, I'll just build a PC that can.
SniperHunter
Banned
yea I wouldn't bother with this mod on a laptop....I have a 5850 and it ran GTAIV pretty well back when it launched or near launch but yea. You need a top of the line card to get enjoyment out of this IMO (unless you like playing games at 20 frames per second or lower
).Gareth Bale
Member
Still struggling to get rid of that cartoony look. I think it's something to do with the sharpness, but I don't know how to reduce that in the configs.
ok so I figured it out... that LaunchGTA.exe app that was in the GTA folder for some reason had zero bites....nothing...so I went into my backup GTA folder, looked for the same application (which had about 5,000bytes) and just copied it over the LaunchGTA.exe file that had zero.
so everything is working now...... I just need to do that font.bat thing to bring back the menus and lower some settings for my laptop.
wine taste on a beer budget, when it comes to my PC gaming unfortunately. I just care more about realistic colors and lighting.I think it looks ok but maybe you could tone the bloom down.
This is where mine is at, at the moment.
I need some help getting some AA on this though. Jaggies are rough.
Gareth Bale
Member
Yeah. The bloom is usually not that bad (I haven't touched it at all). But it could do with some toning down. It's those pillars and the sunset. Car headlights have the same affect on them.
Are you not using SMAA? It does a very decent job with minimal tradeoff.
Karak
Member
Odd. I spent some time with 1.3 and just couldn't get it right. Went with 2.1 and adjusted that and WAY WAY happier with the look. Muted the colors a bit and changed a couple easy things. Far happier with that. I just couldn't get 1.35 to my liking. Bloom was a killer in 1.35. I just couldn't lock it down either.
TheVampire
Banned
PROTIP - if you have a Nvidia SLI setup use these SLI compatibility bits in NvidiaInspector to make it use 100% of both GPUs
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It really helps the framerate alot.
And you need all the help you can get since its so unoptimized for PC.
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It really helps the framerate alot.
And you need all the help you can get since its so unoptimized for PC.
Gareth Bale
Member
Tried to make it so the pavements weren't so bright all the time. I think I made it a bit too colourful again in the process though. It's fun, but it's hard to know when to stop at this!
Karak
Member
That looks ok but you seem to have the same problem I did for a long time. The DOF is just to aggressive. I also noticed that some version of enb's I tried the DOF jumped around way too much. Like almost randomly on and off.
I like the color in both your shots. Which version are you using again?
Paracelsus
Member
Yeah, I will never get why people do this, the game can look like real life all you want (and it does), jaggies will break the illusion immediately, even more than frame drops.
Gareth Bale
Member
2.1
I've changed so much of the config now though. The DOF is next on my to do list. You can edit it in iceshader.fx. I'm planning on turning to down a bit so the jump isn't so noticeable. But I think there's a few variables to mess around with there so I'm going to see what I can accomplish.
Any second now you'll be able to make your own release, then have people go on about how you should get a job at Rockstar.
Karak
Member
If and when you fix it I would love to know your DOF settings. But I do like the color you got.
And as Seth said, yup good chance I may ask you for your files
I have already traded mine with a couple people but quickly surpassed those original sets. I found one person from another forum with a set I am working on now that helped me fix my overly bright bloom issue and some contrast issues. I could not seem to identify a perfect spot. Tweaking those now but the DOF is like a ghost from beyond and haunts everything past 20 feet.Gareth Bale
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If and when you fix it I would love to know your DOF settings. But I do like the color you got.
And as Seth said, yup good chance I may ask you for your files
How did you manage to sort out the bloom?
Also, post some screenshots!
You guys should post your settings/mods/texture packs so I (we) can copy! I'm still looking to get this answered:
So... you guys are saying we should stick to the 1.35 release with some texture packs/mods? What texture packs/mods would you recommend to get it all done well without tweaking numbers and details myself? I'd just like to install a few files over the pre-existing files and then see how it runs on my PC
Boris should just go and fix the thing to work with 1070, because none of these other "modders" will ever be able to. :\
Every realese is supposed to work with it, but every release still has those same problems.
Downgrading GTA4 is easy enough, but the problem is that TLAD and BoGT are the most interesting to play in the first place.
Every realese is supposed to work with it, but every release still has those same problems.
Downgrading GTA4 is easy enough, but the problem is that TLAD and BoGT are the most interesting to play in the first place.
His older releases looked so much better ( In my opinion, of course ) - Just messing around;
jesus christ that looks amazing.
-hrng- somebody please just tell me what to install lol.
And wait, so none of these will work with Liberty City stories/the 2 expansions? :/ only 1040 of the original game? I just wanna know what texture packs/ ENB-mods/settings everyone's using for these awesome looks, both Gareth's and everyone else who's posted :xSo what release is this exactly? Looks amazing.His older releases looked so much better ( In my opinion, of course ) - Just messing around;
Any other mods/texture packs? (I take it HQ Subtle DoF is another mod?)
No texture mods and all the DoFs, Lens Flares etc. are included in the 1.25 RAR Subtle DoF HQ is one of the optional DoFs. Only other custom thing is the cars, of course.
People just need to know his older releases aren't problem free either. Sometimes you get these huge sun explosions in various scenes, lens flare going apeshit, glare explosions etc.
jesus christ that looks amazing.
-hrng- somebody please just tell me what to install lol.
Yeah, ENB only works with 1040 patch, since the episodes are based on the 1070 patch, they don't work.
Or rather, they do work, but they miss some of the most interesting effects and have various annoying bugs (one of which is the red sky bug, the sky becomes completely red when pointing the camera in certain directions).
And since ENB wasn't done we'll never be able to get them... damn. So if we have it on steam, if we downgrade to 1040, we just can't play the expansions?
ENB was done, problem was that Rockstar kept messing up the shaders with every patch until Boris got annoyed and stopped updating ENB for GTA - Hence we're stuck at 1.0.4.0.
No I mean, ENB wasn't done for 1070, only 1040. So... What's better, 1.25 or 1.35? And just installing that will be good, or do we need some texture packs that are essential (I keep reading roads?)?
And then if we downgrade to 1040, that means we just won't be able to play the expansions, only the base game, right?
No release is "better", they each have a unique look that is entirely a personal taste. 1.25 is more matte bright, fairly realistic look with all the ENB effects. 1.35 is more grungy, slight yellow tint and film grain, 2.0n is very bright and can look good, however much of the experience is just a feeling of overbrightness, 2.1 is extremely cartoony, no DoF but with a nice timecycle and lens effects, great on performance too. And stick to whatever is in the ENB releases for textures. Some of them has updated road textures, the newer ones don't.
Like Sethos said, ENB was done, until R* updated the game yet again.
Honestly though, it's not R*'s concern to worry about people's mods, so it sucks, but it's still on Boris to update the thing.
That said, it's compehensible if he's pissed and doesn't want to, but i think now that the updates are effectively over, he should give it one last try, at least for the Episodes.
Boris is also one weird dude, i remember in one of the updates to his site, him saying he didn't want to work on Ballad because it had gay people in it and it was forbidden.. or something.
Anyway, yeah, if you have the Steam version of GTA4 (base game) you can downgrade it and play it just fine, i did it and completed it start to finish without a problem.
Also, they are more difficult to find, but there are other great ENB out there.
Before using Ice 2.0N i used a Korean guy's one (can't remember the name, Leto something, maybe?) and i remember dpeasant3's being very good looking.
Mhmmmmmm interesting, I'll try find some comparison pictures, or do you guys have any at hand? the pictures posted above from 1.25 look amazing.
I'm glad you corrected it
Gah 1.25 or 1.35 is the question now... 2.x looks too bright indeed, and just less... impressive oOCurrently tweaking 1.25 to my liking. Removed the awful glare / ray explosions, also from vehicle lights. Will be changing the trees to 2.1 settings, will see if I can import some of the improved lens flare, will also add the timecycles from 2.1 and perhaps look at the bloom, however it isn't too bad in 1.25.
Few more screenshots
Few more screenshots
Currently tweaking 1.25 to my liking. Removed the awful glare / ray explosions, also from vehicle lights. Will be changing the trees to 2.1 settings, will see if I can import some of the improved lens flare, will also add the timecycles from 2.1 and perhaps look at the bloom, however it isn't too bad in 1.25.
Few more screenshots
wow, just wow. Do you mind sharing your 1.25 settings/stuff you've changed once you've found your sweet spot? Awesome pictures.
Sure, but those pictures are pretty much vanilla 1.25 with rays turned off. So no need to do any tweaking to get it looking good.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
I'm so confused - I've got Icenhancer 2.1 but do I need ENB 1.35 for DoF and motion blur effects?
You can get a really, really subtle DoF with 2.1 by opening the iceshader in a text editor. Then you can add in the various DoFs. However, the more aggressive motion blurs and DoFs are found in 1.2/1.25/1.35 HOWEVER they are also contained within the iceshader so if you just replace it, the game can get an odd, unintended look.
That's why I keep recommending anything but his newest releases, he's removed all the little things that made GTA IV ENB eye candy heaven. AO is also toned down a ton, reflections are pretty tame, DoF is pretty much gone, motion blur doesn't appear to exist and the list just keeps going.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Fack. Can I just d/l 1.35 and replace the contents and simply overwrite 2.1?
Or am I going to have to start over?
(Yeah I didn't do backups, what of it?)
Or am I going to have to start over?
(Yeah I didn't do backups, what of it?)
SniperHunter
Banned
Man got GTAIV with no real intention to play from Amazon because I could get it "for free" with that christmas sale 5$ coupon, but this makes me really glad I did
Time to pick up my new card from the post and this thing is a go, looks amazing.
Hehe, yeah if somebody told me those were photos I'd probably believe it, especially the small quoted ones.
Time to pick up my new card from the post and this thing is a go, looks amazing.
Hehe, yeah if somebody told me those were photos I'd probably believe it, especially the small quoted ones.
I think you can actually, not 100% sure but the majority of the files are called exactly the same. Any excess files in 2.1 are just libraries that can be loaded on the side ( Like smaa, fxaa )
Of course they are downsampled, you expected these were from an iPad? However there's plenty of AA, so even the larger shots are fairly aliased. And I'm running between 30-40FPS.
Would love to do a YouTube, however FRAPS is the only thing working with ENB and FRAPS sucks donkey balls, FPS tanks completely when you hit record.
Wish Dxtory worked =/
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Oh yeah, secondary question - Can you actually run SMAA and FXAA on top of each other?
Canis lupus
Member
Hey Sethos, do you know if it is posisble to downgrade the patch 7 steam version to icenhancer friendly one?
The English Conquistador
Member
Post bigger pics Sethos, those two are small as hell.
SniperHunter
Banned
Yea, you can play old PC games with pristine image quality but not GTAIV, the game ran like ass...I refuse to believe anyone can play GTAIV with that iq at playable frame rates.