Guy accidentally shoots gun off in Target

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What does me liking DBZ got to do with my maturity or age ? You can't be serious.

DBZ show is a series that is literally made for an audience of boys. Obviously there are people who continue to watch it after they become men, but it's something that most people grow out of as they grow older and mature. It's generally indicative of a period of someone's life (teens) when they are by every definition, not mature.
 
DBZ show is a series that is literally made for an audience of boys. Obviously there are people who continue to watch it after they become men, but it's something that most people grow out of as they grow older and mature. It's generally indicative of a period of someone's life (teens) when they are by every definition, not mature.

Says the guy posting on a video game forum.
 
DBZ show is a series that is literally made for an audience of boys. Obviously there are people who continue to watch it after they become men, but it's something that most people grow out of as they grow older and mature. It's generally indicative of a period of someone's life (teens) when they are by every definition, not mature.

I'd expect an FSU fan to say something so idiotic like that. And no DBZ fan ever grows out of it.
 
Says the guy posting on a video game forum.

I don't purport to be some super mature person either, for the record. And certainly not someone who should own a tool whose sole purpose is to kill things. I'm a 32 year old dude -- the average gamer is 31. Shonen Jump's audience is from 8-18.
 
Would a gun even help in a rape situation though?

Not in all instances, but the women I've known who carried thought about the hypothetical enough that I think they would successfully protect themselves. A firearm for self-defense isn't really a replacement for other protective measures and situational awareness is arguably far more important than any other element. A defensive weapon, whether it's a taser, mace can, knife, or firearm won't do any good if you're completely caught off guard no matter what the would-be Rambos would say.

No matter what people do for self-defense, practice and predictability are key as well. Practice takes the surprise out of the behavior of the weapon (Be it firearm, taser, mace, or whatever) and predictability removes the question of whether or not you can access it if needed. The women I've known to carry tend to keep a small handgun in an internal pocket within the purse. If they find themselves in a particularly questionable place (Such as a poorly lit parking lot or garage), they all seem to advocate the practice of having their hand in the purse and on the weapon.

Some people are critical of this kind of behavior but I really don't see it any differently than other precautionary measures that people take on a daily basis. I don't really expect to get into an accident when I put on my seat belt but I do it just in case. Women are at a particular disadvantage in terms of raw physicality and I can understand the instinct to have some equalizer that at least partially makes up the difference. No matter how good the police are or may be, they'll never be omniscient and omnipresent.
 
Not in all instances, but the women I've known who carried thought about the hypothetical enough that I think they would successfully protect themselves. A firearm for self-defense isn't really a replacement for other protective measures and situational awareness is arguably far more important than any other element. A defensive weapon, whether it's a taser, mace can, knife, or firearm won't do any good if you're completely caught off guard no matter what the would-be Rambos would say.

Yep. Good point, weapons do not make you invulnerable. Being smart about where you go...having someone with you, etc. are all still the most important things.

No matter what people do for self-defense, practice and predictability are key as well. Practice takes the surprise out of the behavior of the weapon (Be it firearm, taser, mace, or whatever) and predictability removes the question of whether or not you can access it if needed. The women I've known to carry tend to keep a small handgun in an internal pocket within the purse. If they find themselves in a particularly questionable place (Such as a poorly lit parking lot or garage), they all seem to advocate the practice of having their hand in the purse and on the weapon.

Purse carry is a tough thing, not really recommended by a lot of experts. It is not the best way to carry because of the bigger chance of being separated from your purse. The female wardrobe often makes it tough on women to carry on their bodies though because of form fitting clothes, etc. Better solutions need to be developed in holstering for women. 90% of holsters are "male-centric" i.e. designed for male slacks worn with belts.
 
I'd expect an FSU fan to say something so idiotic like that. And no DBZ fan ever grows out of it.

Eh, what?

I think all of us here loved DBZ when we were kids. Well, the ones with a cool childhood did at least. But it's certainly not something regular people take into their adolescence or adult life, i'd say.
 
This is like that time I was seven and me and Tommy Davis next door promised we would be best friends until the end of time no matter what.

Then I turned eight.
 
DBZ show is a series that is literally made for an audience of boys. Obviously there are people who continue to watch it after they become men, but it's something that most people grow out of as they grow older and mature. It's generally indicative of a period of someone's life (teens) when they are by every definition, not mature.
"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." -C.S. Lewis

P.S. You're posting on NeoGAF, bro.
 
I didn't know they used live, loaded guns in gun safety classes. Also, how does a gun "accidentally" go off? I mean, he might have accidentally pulled the trigger but the way they frame it, they imply that the gun went off by itself which I don't see happening.

They really shouldn't. If you want to teach the importance of a brass check, you could easily do so with an orange dummy round. There isn't a single good reason to have a live round chambered in a training environment.
 
I didn't know they used live, loaded guns in gun safety classes. Also, how does a gun "accidentally" go off? I mean, he might have accidentally pulled the trigger but the way they frame it, they imply that the gun went off by itself which I don't see happening.

It doesn't.

IMO there are no such things as accidental discharges, only negligent discharges. There are certainly no such thing as accidental discharges that injure someone, because in order for that to happen, you have to violate multiple rules of gun safety.

The one scenario I could see a discharge being 'accidental' would be a hang fire(slow primer basically, you pull the trigger, the gun goes click, but does not immediately bang), but if you get a hang fire and then point the gun in an unsafe direction and someone gets shot, that isn't an accident, its fucking negligence.
 
And who's going to teach them that? Travis McClavis from Fuckbuttle Guns Superstore Texas sure as hell ain't mandating no safety classes before supplying the average joe with a gun.

Being a progressive gun owner myself, I'm of the opinion that every gun owner should be required to take a safety class for each class of gun. And have a 5-year period before you're required to do them again. Doesn't need to be anything crazy, just show you can recite the basic gun safety rules, disassemble and reassemble your firearm, and a small multiple choice test like I had to complete for my handgun (it's from the DOJ).

My point is I think there needs to be required safety classes for these purchases. I don't think it's much to ask.
 
And who's going to teach them that? Travis McClavis from Fuckbuttle Guns Superstore Texas sure as hell ain't mandating no safety classes before supplying the average joe with a gun.

actually, pretty much all shooting ranges offer gun safety classes. And most gun store owners, would be able to offer a safety class, or at least know someone or somewhere that does.
You now have to take a class and have a learners permit for 2 years when you are underage and getting a drivers license. The DMV doesn't give driving classes, but I bet they know where you can take one. What a stupid argument, seriously, you should feel bad.



Anyway, maybe someone can help me, there was an article I read the other day that started off or broke down stats starting with "for ever 1 successful self-defense gun use... there are 4 accidental this or 8 homicides etc etc" can someone help me find it?
 
I don't purport to be some super mature person either, for the record. And certainly not someone who should own a tool whose sole purpose is to kill things. I'm a 32 year old dude -- the average gamer is 31. Shonen Jump's audience is from 8-18.

Cute.

Quick google gave me this, which is purportedly from a tv report showing the ages of one piece readers in Japan. Admittedly I can't read it so it could actually be measuring wang length for all I know, but hey.

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Just because it's in shonen jump doesn't mean it's only for kids, same way video games aren't just for kids.
 
Eh, what?

I think all of us here loved DBZ when we were kids. Well, the ones with a cool childhood did at least. But it's certainly not something regular people take into their adolescence or adult life, i'd say.

Oh fucking please. I know plenty of adults that like DBZ.
 
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