Netherscourge
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As soon as Trump openly denounces Nazism, the KKK, white supremacy and all other racist organizations and movements, I'll believe you.
....still waiting
....still waiting
'Hail Trump!': White Nationalists Salute the President Elect
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As soon as Trump openly denounces Nazism, the KKK, white supremacy and all other racist organizations and movements, I'll believe you.
....still waiting
....still waiting
Too true. Racism fuelled executions at the hands of police who KNOW they will get away with it has reached epidemic status and yet fuck all has actually happened. Some protests that get forgotten about, some general tensions in communities reported, and it subsides until the next tragedy, then the next... America, it's media and it's people have absolutely no care in the world for this and at best just want to pretend it doesn't exist (doesn't affect "them" of course), more sinister in that they either don't care, or at worst actually fucking get a kick from seeing it happen and knowing their kind can get away with murder.
America has done jack shit about this, so with a democratically elected Neo Nazi fucking cabal of people in power, slimy power hungry Republicans in control of every branch of government, and the millions of genuine racist fuckwits emboldened to a degree they've never felt before, shit is going to get fucking grim. Violent counter action will be the only remotely worthwhile response. Sitting about talking about what to do, the left having inter-squabbles about minute differences of opinion while killings continue, will achieve fuck all.
Good luck America.
The only upside of all the evil about to come your way is that maybe it will be enough to give decent citizens a fucking jolt up the arse.
And every day a new nightmare emerges. I tried to clear my head and every day I'm just dreading tomorrow since its one day closer to losing everything.
Yet all Muslims get thrown under the bus every time some psychotic extremist suicide bombs innocents.
Seriously. Fuck this "Not all Trump supporters" bullshit.
Trump's entire voting base elevated and empowered these people. Steve Bannon, a white supremacist, is now in the White House because of them. It's not a matter of being "fair". It's a fucking fact.
Yes. Too fast. And he isnt even the President yet.
All this is happening while Obama is still the President. Now that I think about it its like a big fuck you to Obama.
Exactly.
Racism and xenophobia wasn't a minor facet of his platform. It was his platform. It was the one unwavering aspect of his candidacy, from the day he announced it. A vote for Trump was an embrace of that platform, no question.
FTFY
Laevateinn
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Yep. The fight to rebrand the alt-right as white nationalists shows the fight is already lost.
They're fucking Neo Nazis. Don't settle for white nationalist as a less soft euphemism than alt-right. It's still a euphemism. It's still masking the evil.
Neo. Nazi.
This is the perfect interpretation.
Not only that, but in this analogy average moderate Muslims DO loudly speak out against and resist the hate of the radicalized extremists.
Goldenroad
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FTFY and don't forget it. They are one in the same. If you support Trump, you support the groups who support him, which makes you equally culpable, and don't be afraid to speak up and tell people that too.
I am so over people trying to emphasize that not ALL people who voted for Trump are white nationalists. Of course they aren't. They are just people who are more ok with enabling and encouraging white nationalists than they are with voting for someone who doesn't inspire them.
I am getting a lot more fucking aggro over this election than I thought I would. Like, I find myself hoping to meet these disgusting fuckers on the street.
That's not a healthy way of thinking, or anything even remotely approaching a smart one, for myriad reasons.
But I literally can't get past the "seriously FUCK these people" part of the reasoning process.
Edit: I know my post is immature and not conducive to beneficial discourse. It's just hard to focus on those things right now.
I am getting a lot more fucking aggro over this election than I thought I would. Like, I find myself hoping to meet these disgusting fuckers on the street.
That's not a healthy way of thinking, or anything even remotely approaching a smart one, for myriad reasons.
But I literally can't get past the "seriously FUCK these people" part of the reasoning process.
Edit: I know my post is immature and not conducive to beneficial discourse. It's just hard to focus on those things right now.
NullPointer
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If you're calling my mother a neo nazi, who wouldn't be caught dead near any of those people in the OP, as well as the millions of Trump voters that also voted for Obama you're being fucking ridiculous. Sorry, but the world isn't so simple.
TurboLibre
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Intrepid Breitbart reporter John Binder is on the case!
Checkmate, liberals!
We should troll them back by beating them in public.
Lol. I bet they'll get so mad and think we're being serious.
NYCmetsfan
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Your mom isn't a racist. Just a racist enabler. She doesn't hate minorities, she just doesn't care about them. Would you say that's more accurate?
Again. At the very least the shrugged that rhetoric off with no regard to the concerns or well being of other people.
You're part of the problem if you look the other way. You're part of the problem if you didn't call him out or hold him accountable. Now look what he's given way to
NullPointer
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Considering our family makeup, no.
I'll show her this though, no doubt. We've gone back and forth over Trump and conservative radio for what feels like forever now.
Like most things, it helps to know some people on the other side, because it helps to overcome crude or simplistic caricatures. No Trump supporter I've known or talked to would be cool with whats in the OP.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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So this is all because you know someone who voted for Trump personally.
You're going to have to realize that because someone is good and kind to you doesn't mean they can't be antipathetic or apathetic about the well being of others.
You know that supporting Trump was foolish at best and it doesn't become less so because you're related to a person.
Intrepid Breitbart reporter John Binder is on the case!
Checkmate, liberals!
Wow, he actually used the 'it's just a prank!" excuse.
The Just World Fallacy is so strong amongst the population that even if these Nazis were wandering the streets they'd probably think everything will turn out okay
"Come on Richard Hammond, kick this tramp to death"
Sartre on anti-semites
Depressingly and eerily relevant.
Sartre on anti-semites
Is there way to get this on the top of the page for every trump thread
Goldenroad
Member
Sorry your Mom has to be associated with such a horrible group of people. Personally, I'd be defending my mom too if she did the same thing.
NullPointer
Member
Listen, I'm here for the fight.
But I'm not about to call 61 million Trump voters neo nazis, or say that the guys in the OP represent all of them. I'm only arguing against the extremes here.
"One of the good ones"
Trump needs to say something but he won't unless it's some stage actors or SNL.
they don't know it?
NYCmetsfan
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Why did it happen in 1930s? Because people will acquiesce in the name of safety and comfort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23X14HS4gLk
Prepare a go bag, and for resistance.
Prepare social networks of trusted people. Save money. Organize politically. Support politicians that fight against this, urge cowards to not be.
Da-Kid
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I'm really starting to believe this country is on the brink of Civil War.
The pot is boiling and is about to overflow. You can only stand up to hate with non-violence for so long. Trump has made all these racist people feel secure and justified. And they already have their resolve by "cleansing" ethnic people.
If that doesn't sound like a declaration of war I don't know what is.
The pot is boiling and is about to overflow. You can only stand up to hate with non-violence for so long. Trump has made all these racist people feel secure and justified. And they already have their resolve by "cleansing" ethnic people.
If that doesn't sound like a declaration of war I don't know what is.
ThatCrazyGuy
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Soooo, when will Trump denounce all of this, because it doesn't represent the majority of his supporters?
kittoo
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Makes sense. Though on the same lines, would like to see thoughts of Ivanka and Jared on these guys too.
Possible too. Wouldve loved to see look on their faces if and when they come to know of it.
The only difference is at least then Germany was in ruins and ripe for Hitler to take over.
We aren't. The economy is trending up, housing market up, unemployment below 5%, gas under $2, and President's approval rating around 56% .... I can't believe how easily people have bought into the myth of our economy being terrible to the point people think this is the direction to go in.
Because despite what modern media tells you about social enlightenment, there are 1000 examples of how it has failed to change the minds of largely-ignored parts of the US who are still operating on principles that have not progressed since WW2 and/or pre-Civil War.
People are largely the same as they've always been despite what those of us in bubbles choose to think of our country as a whole. Liberals like myself like to imagine an ideal rather than to address an ugly reality directly.
I've been 100% guilty of this, and I hate myself for it.
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