IOnEI Falcon
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Do you have room to install? All the menus are smooth for me. I think only once were they really slow and that was because all kinds of people were joining and leaving a lobby.
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Halo 4 |OT| Spartans Never Die
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scrolling the scoreboard is now dpad too. it's fucking ridiculous, some of the things theyve changed for no benefit at all but rather making things more difficult.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I haven't read the novels, and most of it made fine sense to me. The terminals added a lot of background, too.
Baller. PhD
Banned
Yeah I agree with this. I played 1-3 but not ODST and Reach. Never read any novels either. I was like WTF at
the "Didact"
the "librarian"
I looked up the information on the wiki, but WTF? I shouldn't have to look shit up on a wiki. Especially having played the first 3 games in the series. I even watched IGN's "Halo in 5 minutes" and brushed up on my lore at the aforementioned wiki.
Seriously shitty storytelling all up in this bitch.
Ignore the incredibly negative responses here - Halo 4 is definitely worth the $60 price tag and is a must buy if you own a 360
Edit: nvm I guess that wasn't your question. I would recommend playing 1-3 to really grasp the story. But halo 2 will be difficult to rent
Ajemsuhgao
Member
So, do the challenges and commendations still give you XP after you hit the XP cap, or are they a complete waste?
EDIT: Just completed two commendations and a challenge, totaling 2000XP. Didn't get shit.
That is extremely stupid. It's almost 9PM. I have to wait...what, five more hours before I can even get any more XP? I have almost no desire to play this game right now because of that.
EDIT: Just completed two commendations and a challenge, totaling 2000XP. Didn't get shit.
That is extremely stupid. It's almost 9PM. I have to wait...what, five more hours before I can even get any more XP? I have almost no desire to play this game right now because of that.
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Deleted member 1235
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what the... I completed the game with co-op legendary and have 'legendary' tags on every level (for some reason on the first time through my prologue was marked as only heroic) however, I don't see any kind of extra ending. Is there no legendary ending in this, or must I do it solo?
IOnEI Falcon
Member
There is like an added 3 seconds during
John taking off his suit.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Gotta do it solo legendary for the proper ending.
Jack Scofield
Member
Or you can play the game to, you know, have fun.
Ajemsuhgao
Member
If the XP system wasn't even there, I would do just that. But knowing it is there, and that it's locked out for me is extremely shitty.
It's just like the invisible walls in Campaign. Had they just made the rocks taller, so I CAN'T go outside the map, I wouldn't care. But to show me this big open area, that I cannot get to because they walled it off, that sucks.
flamingotripod
Member
how much exactly is the xp cap? Because it seems like I get 2k of xp from commendations in game regularly but when the game ends, I only usually get around 1900. Does it count the commendation xp as I earn it, or at the end?
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Deleted member 1235
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ah, thanks.
So much potential for the multiplayer, this game could be better than Reach and 3 with some fixes.
First: Instant respawn. Combined with sprint it results in very poor gameplay. Killing an enemy only for him to instantly respawn and provide immediate fire is bad enough, but for an enemy to instantly respawn in your line of sight to finish you off immediately is all but game-breaking.
Second: Ordnance. Personal ordnance should be limited to certain weapons like SAW, needler, speed, OS, Sticky det, scattershot and shotty. Its totally unfair when the other team is given the option for damage boost/sniper weapon and you aren't.
More importantly however is the global ordnance. Not only does it spawn in seemingly random locations, but it spawns a random weapon at random times. Global ordnance needs to be predictable to facilitate map flow and motivate players to set up and control key points of the map.
First: Instant respawn. Combined with sprint it results in very poor gameplay. Killing an enemy only for him to instantly respawn and provide immediate fire is bad enough, but for an enemy to instantly respawn in your line of sight to finish you off immediately is all but game-breaking.
Second: Ordnance. Personal ordnance should be limited to certain weapons like SAW, needler, speed, OS, Sticky det, scattershot and shotty. Its totally unfair when the other team is given the option for damage boost/sniper weapon and you aren't.
More importantly however is the global ordnance. Not only does it spawn in seemingly random locations, but it spawns a random weapon at random times. Global ordnance needs to be predictable to facilitate map flow and motivate players to set up and control key points of the map.
Quicksilver4648
Member
Haha, silly me for considering Alpha Zombies from Halo: Reach as being the perfect balance for Infection. Fuck me, right?
Same thing happened to me today. I had to play through it twice to get credit for the completion.
I did this to someone earlier today. I got out DMR'd near bubble side (still call it that) on Ragnarock during a KotH game. I instant respawn near the base and finish him off from very long range with the DMR before his shields have recharged. Felt so, so cheap. I actually felt guilty.
It really does decimate the flow of the game. What used to be a nice cadence of deliberately metered heavy ordnance, which teams would coalesce around contesting, becomes a bit of a clusterfuck. Luck plays an enormous role in the outcome of games; it's impossible to put together a comeback strategy that hinges on ordnance; there are far too many power weapons in play at once, especially in BTB, and so on. Of the many game systems in Halo 4 that are questionable, the global ordnance ranks high. It adds nothing to and subtracts much from the game.
I'll still work through Spartan Ops. And may hop on now and then to try and get a Halo fix in War Games. But by and large, I'm done with Halo 4. I'm really bummed about this. I wanted to love this game, but there are so many problems, from the nuts and bolts gameplay to the bugs to things like flinch and ordnance, I can't embrace the game. Every time I try, I feel shoved away. This simply isn't the Halo I've loved for ten years.
maybe if your team is winning, you don't receive the good ordinance? like Dmg boost, incineration cannon, and such, and get lower tier ordinance, and losing gets the others , to balance out?
BackdoorBeauty
Member
Best gif from the best thread
im trying so hard not to go back to reach mp right now. people say adapt to change, blah, blah, yeah fucking right how do you adapt to gameplay that is random and based largley on luck.
Yes, silly you. How could you consider a game type that gives one team the option of one-shot long-range kills to be balanced?
Princess Carl
Member
because of how fast and op zombies are? Zombies was perfected in Halo 2 and has yet to be repeated. You simply don't understand.
No gametype with honour rules can be considered perfect.
What I do understand is that allowing someone to stand in a corner and pick off 10 or even 20 zombies from afar in a single round isn't fair to anyone.
flamingotripod
Member
I agree on this, they might as well give you a dmr instead of the magnum since it does absolutely nothing. As human, it is impossible to win since the thrusters can make the zombies come at every direction
In Infection/Flood players are ranked by score/kills, so I don't see what team winning has to do with it.
bu bu bu join in progress !
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Deleted member 1235
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what is flinch?
I don't really get comments like yours either. I've loved halo for 10 years as well and I love this halo. it's great.
shrug.
Love getting a teammate during the last ten seconds of the game.
Ajemsuhgao
Member
When you get shot while zoomed in, and your aim gets knocked around. Flinching.
soxinthebox
Member
Wasn't this also in previous games?
BuckRobotron
Member
Partway through 7th stage on Legendary. Gets quite rough in spots but very satisfying when overcoming the odds. The part that I dreaded--
--turned out not so bad. But it was almost hilariously infuriating when I died in the next section and discovered the game didn't register a new checkpoint and was sent back to do it again.
So I was forced to play through it twice in a row. Fortunately saw it register the checkpoint after that, and also the only time this happened.
Playing through again has reemphasized how much I like MC speaking. Comes off as even more heroic, taking command and even with others (including Cortana) having difficulty he is always "we'll get it done" or "we'll work around it".
Only negative that has again stood out is the non-spoken audio during cutscenes. As oft-noted, compression seems terrible. Did they use a compression setting called "Paper Bag" or something? Anyway, overall enjoying the campaign anew.
in the forest, having to hold position while Cortana works on the door
So I was forced to play through it twice in a row. Fortunately saw it register the checkpoint after that, and also the only time this happened.
Playing through again has reemphasized how much I like MC speaking. Comes off as even more heroic, taking command and even with others (including Cortana) having difficulty he is always "we'll get it done" or "we'll work around it".
Only negative that has again stood out is the non-spoken audio during cutscenes. As oft-noted, compression seems terrible. Did they use a compression setting called "Paper Bag" or something? Anyway, overall enjoying the campaign anew.
JustProgress
Member
You got knocked out of zoom in previous Halos. It was better.
Ajemsuhgao
Member
In previous games, you would zoom out if you get hit. Now you stay in zoom, but your aim goes wonky.
Man, I really love this cutscene (spoilers for cutscene between missions 5 and 6): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvldqPLtQzc
Chief's presence over Del Rio is just so imposing, and there's some great voice acting and facial animation going on here.
Chief's presence over Del Rio is just so imposing, and there's some great voice acting and facial animation going on here.
Getting knocked out of it was more annoying.
soxinthebox
Member
JustProgress
Member
Yes, but it meant you couldn't get one-shot by a Binary Rifle because the guy can't unscope.
User 73706
Banned
7th stage? Boy, do we have news for you.
BuckRobotron
Member
Heh, on Heroic the last
Knight run
Digital Limit
Member
True, but how often do I have to deal with a Binary Rifle killing me because there's no descoping? And compare that to how often I get to engage in the rescope-struggle game that's never been fun?
Hint: one happens rarely, and the other is every single match.
I thought it was a good trade off until I played it. The real problem is the 3x scope on the rifles. In past Halos, you would not get pinged from ultra long range, and so you rarely were required to scope just to return fire. When Reach introduced the DMR, you would get pinged from across maps from over 2x the range we did in Halo 1-3. That meant unless you were scoped, you were unable to hit (and sometimes even see) who was shooting you. That meant players would get tagged, scope in to return fire, get tagged again, rescope, and so on. It was annoying and led to frustrating deaths (among other reasons).
343 addressed this not by returning our engagement range to what it had been, but by removing de-scoping as a mechanic. Only now, you can't aim straight when taking fire when scoped, so it's now a game of trying to wrestle a bobbing targeting reticule around in order to aim straight. Which to me, is a dramatically more frustrating experience.
I should note that things like bobbing targeting reticules are among my most hated mechanics in all of FPS, and one of the reasons I enjoyed Halo was because the game didn't go there. It never resorted to fucking with our ability to aim straight as way of balancing things. So it's a borderline deal breaker for me that Halo 4 dropped it in, and worse, dropped it in as a way to paper over the problems introduced with the DMR.
That's probably one of the best cutscenes in a videogame ever. Del rio's voice actor just fucking nailed that scene.
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Deleted member 1235
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why is this bad? I mean, you're getting shot....
maybe they should get rid of respawning because it's more realistic.
Honestly, it needs it. The auto-aim is so heavy that the Sniper Rifle is ridiculously powerful as-is.