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[Overdoziz]

There's always a balance to me made in terms of kill times and shield recharge rate, but to me Halo 4 seemed really slow before the rebalancing. At the moment it's 6 seconds until it starts recharging and another 2 seconds until your shields are completely full. In Reach it was even worse with a 6 seconds delay and 2.75 full recharge. I definitely liked Halo 2 and 3's 4.75 second delay and 1.75 second full recharge the best. Nothing is worse than waiting 6 seconds only to be hit ever so slightly by a grenade and having to wait another 6 seconds until your shields even start recharging. It just slows down the game to a crawl at times.

There's definitely a point where people get shields that recharge too quickly, but I think within their own sandboxes Halo 2 and 3 had it right.

This reminds me that we should play more Halo 3, Elzar!

 

[Risen]

There's always a balance to me made in terms of kill times and shield recharge rate, but to me Halo 4 seemed really slow before the rebalancing. At the moment it's 6 seconds until it starts recharging and another 2 seconds until your shields are completely full. In Reach it was even worse with a 6 seconds delay and 2.75 full recharge. I definitely liked Halo 2 and 3's 4.75 second delay and 1.75 second full recharge the best. Nothing is worse than waiting 6 seconds only to be hit ever so slightly by a grenade and having to wait another 6 seconds until your shields even start recharging. It just slows down the game to a crawl at times.

There's definitely a point where people get shields that recharge too quickly, but I think within their own sandboxes Halo 2 and 3 had it right.

This reminds me that we should play more Halo 3, Elzar!

Neither of those games had sprint where people could quickly gtfo of Dodge. Also - neither of those had a modifier that reduced the time to gain full shields.


Edit: Lunch break Halo anyone?

 

[Overdoziz]

Neither of those games had sprint where people could quickly gtfo of Dodge. Also - neither of those had a modifier that reduced the time to gain full shields.

Well, yeah, sprint is poop. That's why I said within their own sandboxes.

 

[Risen]

Well, yeah, sprint is poop. That's why I said within their own sandboxes.

Read too fast... missed that. Muhbad.

 

[TheOddOne]

This reminds me that we should play more Halo 3, Elzar!

Why you still talking to that nobody. What a crappy person.

Halo 4 made me rage today. Thanks.

 

[Gabotron ES]

The black looks sexy and so does the idea of making the flag the OB so we can throw it. Hopefully they allow for messing with those traits like distance thrown, speed, etc.

While you could switch the flag for an oddball it'd just be the model, that means the oddball will still keep the flag properties. That doesn't mean these traits can't be modified by changing other values in the script.

You'll still be able to come up with some crazy things on your own, like changing the flag for a turret or a wraith (mortar still operable and all ).

All of these will be usable on a retail xbox once the modders release the gametype editor.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

There's always a balance to me made in terms of kill times and shield recharge rate, but to me Halo 4 seemed really slow before the rebalancing. At the moment it's 6 seconds until it starts recharging and another 2 seconds until your shields are completely full. In Reach it was even worse with a 6 seconds delay and 2.75 full recharge. I definitely liked Halo 2 and 3's 4.75 second delay and 1.75 second full recharge the best. Nothing is worse than waiting 6 seconds only to be hit ever so slightly by a grenade and having to wait another 6 seconds until your shields even start recharging. It just slows down the game to a crawl at times.

There's definitely a point where people get shields that recharge too quickly, but I think within their own sandboxes Halo 2 and 3 had it right.

This reminds me that we should play more Halo 3, Elzar!

Well said and Halo 4's increase in kill times should reflect a faster recharge delay. The reality of it is in the bolded; a frustrating experience when the rest of the game is made to play faster.

One thing you're overlooking Risen is how a long recharge delay changes player habits. It causes more players to run and hide from battles instead of staying in the action, resulting in a more defensive and campy playstyle. The problem is a combination of sprint + motion tracking radar and too many options to escape/hide from a fight (AA's on spawn, etc.), not a faster recharge.

While you could switch the flag for an oddball it'd just be the model, that means the oddball will still keep the flag properties. That doesn't mean these traits can't be modified by changing other values in the script.

You'll still be able to come up with some crazy things on your own, like changing the flag for a turret or a wraith (mortar still operable and all ).

All of these will be usable on a retail xbox once the modders release the gametype editor.

Damn.. got me hyped. Stinkles, you guys should try out Murder the Flag in Murder Miners. It's pretty damn fun and has some gameplay elements that could work well with Halo (throwing the flag and killing enemies with it).

 

[DeadNames]

throwing the flag actually could make some fun gameplay.

I would like that.

 

[Diablohead]

One of the best things about this weapon update is the shorter auto aim on the long range weapons, it makes the dmr not feel like an end all gun because they shot first from the other side of the map, and you can *gasp* dodge shots! amazing.

 

[The Real Napsta]

throwing the flag actually could make some fun gameplay.

I would like that.

You mean like how you could in Halo CE/2/3/Reach?

Yeah, it was fun.

 

[DeadNames]

You mean like how you could in Halo CE/2/3/Reach?

Yeah, it was fun.

not throwing in that sense.

I was thinking throwing like the oddball.

 

[Poker Face]

not throwing in that sense.

I was thinking throwing like the oddball.

But then you could just throw it across the map and easily score.

 

[DeadNames]

But then you could just throw it across the map and easily score.

that actually just popped in my mind before I saw your post haha. maybe a teammate needs to touch the base while holding the flag?

 

[BigShow36]

One of the best things about this weapon update is the shorter auto aim on the long range weapons, it makes the dmr not feel like an end all gun because they shot first from the other side of the map, and you can *gasp* dodge shots! amazing.

Amazing how a shooting skill gap, even a slight one, allows the game to function much better. Now if only they would extend the shooting skill gap to the rest of the game.

 

[daedalius]

Solid points mate, I'd go a 40/30/30 split of CE & H2 missions & Halo 4. One provision though, the new AI and campaign has to be open world of sorts and challenging with varied tactics. I blame the old hardware for the Halo 4 AI.

Halo 2, really?

Why?

 

[The Real Napsta]

Halo 2, really?

Why?

Yeah, seriously. Worst campaign in the series.

 

[Gabotron ES]

This Sanctuary remake is looking good

 

[Diablohead]

Amazing how a shooting skill gap, even a slight one, allows the game to function much better. Now if only they would extend the shooting skill gap to the rest of the game.

Nailing those 4 light rifle shots across the map finishing with a headshot, priceless

 

[MrGreencastle]

This Sanctuary remake is looking good

Put that shit in MM.

 

[Risen]

One thing you're overlooking Risen is how a long recharge delay changes player habits.

I'm not overlooking that at all.

 

[Garrett 2U]

Put that shit in MM.

Sanctuary and Onyx please!

 

[IHaveIce]

This Sanctuary remake is looking good

Did already some customs on it

 

[Ghazi]

This Sanctuary remake is looking good

That's aPK's, bro that looks soooo good.

 

[squidhands]

Did already some customs on it

Yeah, seems like a great remake/update.

 

[789shadow]

There's a big HaloGAF party this Saturday?

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

NOOOOOOOOO SANCTUARYYYYYYYYY.

 

[Redford]

Well it was only a matter of time

Attack on Titan (Shingeki no Kyojin) Halo parody

Haha, that's actually well done.

 

[The Real Napsta]

NOOOOOOOOO SANCTUARYYYYYYYYY.

Sanctuary is amazing. Can't wait for it to be in matchmaking.

 

[Striker]

Add that and remove Settler from MM.

 

[MrGreencastle]

Add that and remove Settler from MM.

Hire Striker

 

[Risen]

Add that and remove Settler from MM.

Who doesn't like holding kids on spawn until the game is over?

Fire Striker.

 

[TheOddOne]

Add that and remove Settler from MM.

Spawn trap heaven. Forge exclusive. Halo 4.

 

[Risen]

Spawn trap heaven. Forge exclusive. Halo 4.

Who will Dong if we do not?

 

[TheOddOne]

Who will Dong if we do not?

#FireRisen.

 

[Risen]

#FireRisen.

Do not give in to the Shitonitis.

 

[Gui_PT]

Getting on

Anyone playing?

 

[RebornYeti]

NOOOOOOOOO SANCTUARYYYYYYYYY.

Agreed.

 

[Diablohead]

Getting on

Anyone playing?

i'm on but no mic it's late here, in the mood if you have my gamertag.

 

[User 73706]

Getting on

Anyone playing?

I'm hopping on. OG dingleblainders 2013

 

[Nebula]

Update is good. That said, the automatics need a range nerf IMO, and the shield recharge time should be reduced to accommodate the faster kill times.

Yeah I agree that the shield recharge delay needs shortening. It was noticeable pre WTU but now it has become a real issue.

Also I like the BR.

 

[DeadNames]

every time I don't play halo 4 for a while I get urges to play it...

but whenever I play it I always start hating the game.

c'est la vie.

 

[Tashi]

Oh I thought that was a new Sanctuary remake. That's old bruh. But yes, it's very nice.

 

[Ramirez]

4 shot BR is wildly inconsistent for me, but in true Halo fashion, everyone else 4 shots me perfectly.

 

[Lazslo]

Getting on

Anyone playing?

Hey Im playing now on my bros acct: cozytrain85352 send invite if you wanna play

 

[daedalius]

4 shot BR is wildly inconsistent for me, but in true Halo fashion, everyone else 4 shots me perfectly.

This is how I feel.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

4 shot BR is wildly inconsistent for me, but in true Halo fashion, everyone else 4 shots me perfectly.

Odd, I've had very little problem with any of it. Gui (i think) was complaining earlier about the 2shot melee not working which works for me also. I wonder what it could be. Might not actually be a thing and just your brain. If not then get some on film and post it, maybe it can get addressed quickly.

 

[Hydranockz]

hopping on bros.

 

[Ramirez]

Game's still meh overall, the spawning system is the worst. Spawning in front of a charging scattershot on lockout is fun times.

 

[Gui_PT]

4 shot BR is wildly inconsistent for me, but in true Halo fashion, everyone else 4 shots me perfectly.

Odd, I've had very little problem with any of it. Gui (i think) was complaining earlier about the 2shot melee not working which works for me also. I wonder what it could be. Might not actually be a thing and just your brain. If not then get some on film and post it, maybe it can get addressed quickly.

Gotta have that godly internet connection, breh

 

[Redford]

Getting shit on in RP, can get one kill then a cleanup at most before dying most times. Real hard to get away, which is good and bad with the awfully slow recharge.