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[BigShow36]

Why? It's not like those are Spartan-II's... Many soldiers play sports in their offtime even while deployed. Looks like they're doing some kind of training or some kind of war games exercises on a converted orbital landing ship or something.

I think it's actually pretty cool, imagine it fully realized too, sort of a mix of foundry and anchor 9.

I don't mind if it's just one map that features the "arena" feel, but the whole concept of segmenting MP into some war simulation just seemed odd. It makes it feel like some cheezed up Rollerball knockoff.

I think RvB did it best; who knows or cares why they are sitting in a symmetrical canyon fighting each other?

If they're going to stick with the Wargames theme, at least give us some more exotic locations.

 

[Fracas]

I'm cool with MP being a "sport." And it sort of makes sense anyway.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Frank

What's happening here? Spartan Superbowl?
War Games simulation?
Why are the UNSC building huge multiplayer arena maps in orbit?

Is this one of those, "don't ask questions about multiplayer canon because it's not a thing" things?

This is really cool map concept IMO.

After they made MP a simulation upon the Infinity I have always wanted to see a map changing and adapting. Or perhaps the concept of the war room being damaged so some parts look like outside, while others are just damaged Infinity corridors, etc. Something like that would be bizarre, but possibly really fun.

 

[Woorloog]

You know, i can't figure this out. Combat game, ok. Sports game, ok. Conceptually combat sport is very interesting. Combat sport game? Not ok. Yet a game about gladiators is ok (eg Battletech mechwarriors fighting in Solaris VII arena with frigging mechs).
Why the hell do i feel that way?

Ah, well, whatever. As long as the game is good enough, i can overlook stuff i dislike.

 

[Vico]

One particular thing I like about all this, is that, from now on, and up to the release of Halo 5, we'll get some news every month. I'm excited.

 

[Woorloog]

One particular thing I like about all this, is that, from now on, and up to the release of Halo 5, we'll get some news every month. I'm excited.

We do?

 

[Syphon Filter]

I'm cool with MP being a "sport." And it sort of makes sense anyway.

To have a story behind it is kind of corny. Unless it is like Unreal Tournament.

 

[NOKYARD]

It takes a month to create a quality square?

It took 8 days to build the floor on Grifball High, and another 2 or 3 to smooth out the bumps.



A.G.L.A.Sandbox took 6 weeks from concept to test.

 

[Random17]

Frankie, any confirmation on swordflying in the Campaign 1.0 style? That's like half the fun in Halo 2 for me nowadays... after playing the Campaign for thousands of hours...

Also, the trailer is obviously different to the Return to Sender cutscene; is this intentional... is Locke seeing a morphed and manipulated version of events?

 

[Prinz Eugn]

It is beyond me how Grifball became more than a joke... or did it?

 

[Vico]

We do?

Well, pretty much (not just talking about Halo 5 news, all Halo content)

Before december, they have to unveil the Ridley Scott project, the last maps remade for H2A, the first glimpses of Halo 5's multiplayer... And in 2015, since Halo 5 seems to be an even bigger game than 4, it'll have months of announcements (also, the Spielberg show).

 

[Booshka]

Monday Night Combat does the whole Combat Sports entertainment concept really well for MP. Although they just went all in and essentially made it Idiocracy for eSports. I liked it though, and it's actually pretty damn funny a lot of the time.

I don't think Halo needs to do this, but whatever 343 needs to do to justify Arena FPS is fine with me. If you need to slap some lore behind it so it's more believable to more people then fine.

 

[Dub117]

One particular thing I like about all this, is that, from now on, and up to the release of Halo 5, we'll get some news every month. I'm excited.

We do?

Yeah what? Would love that but what? Maybe after nightfall...but I don't know

 

[Woorloog]

It is beyond me how Grifball became more than a joke... or did it?

It's been crap ever after Halo 3 (melee mechanic changes along with other things made it feel utterly different in Reach and Halo 4). Halo 3 Grifball combined with the ability to pass the bomb would be nice though, provided it doesn't break the mode.
Just no this Halo 4 Grifball "goal doesn't start a new round"-shit.

I don't think Halo needs to do this, but whatever 343 needs to do to justify Arena FPS is fine with me. If you need to slap some lore behind it so it's more believable to more people then fine.

Having to justify "arena-shooter" is incredibly sad. Lore or no lore.

 

[jem0208]

Spartans being kind of sports players doesn't make any sense in my mind. War games or not.

I did not really like the idea of MP being hard canon. Map locations and functions being canon is okay (as always).

A true war game Spartans would play would be, in my mind, very different: long scenarios and campaigns truly simulating warfare the Spartans are expected to take part in, not capture the flag or the like. Instead, deep raid behind the enemy lines to capture some important information would be appropriate. Not that you can simulate this with Halo MP map likes maps, i think. You'd need a campaign mission-like missions and maps...
EDIT this is also the major reason i found Spartan Ops to be so very disappointing, i expected the missions to be more like campaign missions, if shorter, not missions filled with enemies in rather small areas.


Also, speaking of map sizes, Halos missions are deceptively small. They look big... but in reality they're not very big. Did the Tip of the Spear vacation glitch today with a friend, we walked some 12 kilometers from the Spire, much more than the actual mission area has length...

I quite like the idea that Spartans would use sports as training. Obviously they wouldn't be spectator style things but I think it makes perfect sense to create sports out of war games.

Spartans definitely would have sparred for practicing close quarters combat, why not have a similar thing for weaponised combat? It would also help build teamwork among the fireteams etc.

However I do agree that what you described would have been a much better fit for Spartan ops.

I always thought it was foolish to try to have online multiplayer have a story.

I agree that adding story is foolish however I really like the idea of contextualizing it.

 

[Ampoc]

Here's the Gamespot demo

Nothing too out of the old but they do show an extended version of the H2A multiplayer demo. After the player destroys the banshee (it normally cuts at this point) the player then snipes another player (the Elite) and hops safely off the tower as some sort of special effect happens in the center-satellite part of the map.

Extended demo starts at 7:40 to 7:49

 

[Woorloog]

I quite like the idea that Spartans would use sports as training. Obviously they wouldn't be spectator style things but I think it makes perfect sense to create sports out of war games.

Spartans definitely would have sparred for practicing close quarters combat, why not have a similar thing for weaponised combat? It would also help build teamwork among the fireteams etc.

However I do agree that what you described would have been a much better fit for Spartan ops.

I can understand that sports is an excellent training tool. But... well, they're super soldiers, they do already know most of this stuff, right? (Not that training ever ends).
It is too... i don't know, it is not grim and dark enough like the Halos previously have been. It makes the game too lighthearted. It is like they're making sport of Halo! (Terribly obvious pun absolutely intended)

Aesthetically, ever since Halo Reach reveal trailer (which was far better than the final intro cutscene is), i've wanted grimmer and darker Halo (preferably with added gore). Reach not being that was a big frigging disappointment. And this extends to the multiplayer, making the game more lighthearted, which the sports theme does very well, is the opposite of what i think Halo should be.

...

Err, if i seem to be repeating myself... i almost didn't get any sleep yesterday. Damn timezones and press conferences...

 

[BigShow36]

I can understand that sports is an excellent training tool. But... well, they're super soldiers, they do already know most of this stuff, right? (Not that training ever ends).
It is too... i don't know, it is not grim and dark enough like the Halos previously have been. It makes the game too lighthearted. It is like they're making sport of Halo! (Terribly obvious pun absolutely intended)

Aesthetically, ever since Halo Reach reveal trailer (which was far better than the final intro cutscene is), i've wanted grimmer and darker Halo (preferably with added gore). Reach not being that was a big frigging disappointment. And this extends to the multiplayer, making the game more lighthearted, which the sports theme does very well, is the opposite of what i think Halo should be.

...

Err, if i seem to be repeating myself... i almost didn't get any sleep yesterday. Damn timezones and press conferences...

I'm the same way; one thing I loved about Halo CE in both campaign and MP was the sense of isolation and loneliness. It was you vs the world and you felt the gravity. Now, it's more like some cheesy summer bromance blockbuster.

Solemnity has turned into haughtiness. Simplicity becomes tortuous.

 

[Dub117]

I think it is going to be fun playing all of them side by side, and I'm curious if it changes anyone's opinion, or which one they THINK they like the best, but then all things being equal and during the same time period, they realize they like another one more. Or something like that.

 

[jem0208]

I can understand that sports is an excellent training tool. But... well, they're super soldiers, they do already know most of this stuff, right? (Not that training ever ends).
It is too... i don't know, it is not grim and dark enough like the Halos previously have been. It makes the game too lighthearted. It is like they're making sport of Halo! (Terribly obvious pun absolutely intended)

Aesthetically, ever since Halo Reach reveal trailer (which was far better than the final intro cutscene is), i've wanted grimmer and darker Halo (preferably with added gore). Reach not being that was a big frigging disappointment. And this extends to the multiplayer, making the game more lighthearted, which the sports theme does very well, is the opposite of what i think Halo should be.

...

Err, if i seem to be repeating myself... i almost didn't get any sleep yesterday. Damn timezones and press conferences...

I ddon't think the Halos have ever been really grim or dark. Halo CE had some pretty dark moments in the campaign but other than that its always been an atmospheric and deep game and not especially dark. I wouldn't say it was every lighthearted although it had its moments, the grunt for example.

Anyways, I don't think 343 will be putting much emphasis on story in multiplayer beyond giving it context like they did in 4. So it's probably pretty safe to completely ignore it if you want to. I think that arena style map looks very cool though and it seems like a great setting for a map. As long as they aren't all like that...


I do agree a darker halo would be cool though. I feel like ODST should have been a bit darker in tone.

 

[Mistel]

It's been crap ever since Halo 3.

So from the start?

 

[Woorloog]

I'm the same way; one thing I loved about Halo CE in both campaign and MP was the sense of isolation and loneliness. It was you vs the world and you felt the gravity. Now, it's more like some cheesy summer bromance blockbuster.

Solemnity has turned into haughtiness. Simplicity becomes tortuous.

I'm not talking about isolation and loneliness, those are not things i miss (but i would not oppose returning them either).
It is just that when you portray war, fictional or not, i'd prefer it to be disgusting in many ways. Black and black morality, you know?
Show the Covies to be truly genocidal, yet at the same time, make it clear the humans are seriously considering returning the favor. Make the Covies terrifying enemies, yet humanize them some (that Elite you just shot "dead"? What if he were clearly pleading and would be terrified of you?) (I mean, seriously, don't say the Elites don't feel fear. All sapient beings probably feel fear as it is damn effective survival mechanism)
All with much more gore than Halos have had (strong visual impact, i think. In theory. Me, i'm not one bit disturbed by gore in games (or TV or film) ever, and that disturbs me...). There is no clean death with powerful weapons.

And this should extend to the multiplayer as i said, though some things don't work there nearly as well, by the very nature of it.

EDIT though showing you're very much alone in the war might be good, i think.
EDIT2 for the record, i don't think the Halo games portray war very well. Unfortunately. For military science fiction....
EDIT3 though it occurs to me that many military SF works don't actually portray war that well... ARGH, this is one of those things i should not think or it starts bothering me a lot.

So from the start?

Fucking English language. After Halo 3...

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

Here's the Gamespot demo

Nothing too out of the old but they do show an extended version of the H2A multiplayer demo. After the player destroys the banshee (it normally cuts at this point) the player then snipes another player (the Elite) and hops safely off the tower as some sort of special effect happens in the center-satellite part of the map.

Extended demo starts at 7:40 to 7:49

A couple of tidbits of info from this interview:

1. Collection has full support for custom games
2. Collection works with all X1 parties/friends/notifications
3. Collection ranking system TBA but confirmed as in
4. Halo 5 arena confirmed by Frankie as equal starts
5. Halo 5 arena is only a small slice of overall multiplayer
6. Six H2A map remakes by Certain Affinity
7. H2A CGI cutscnes by Blur (company that did Halo Wars CGI)
8. First episode of Ridley Scott's Nightfall can be watched day one of Collection release, Nightfall is episodic content and a spiritual successor to Forward Unto Dawn
9. The agent in the reveal is called Agent Locke, at this time, I guess he changed his GT

 

[belushy]

I wonder if Halo 3 and 4 will also have file share?

 

[Syphon Filter]

I wonder if Halo 3 and 4 will also have file share?

Why wouldn't they?

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

By the way Desolation and Tombstone are now IN:

Previously, we’d told you Tombstone and Desolation were not included, but the good news is that those are going to be in the game along with their counterparts, Hang ‘Em High and Derelict. Basically, every single multiplayer map from Halo 1-4 is included in Halo: The Master Chief Collection.

Source: Waypoint News

 

[FatMarshall]

Why wouldn't they?

The same reason there probably won't be Halo 3's full-blown ranking system (Global ranks, playlist ranks, skill ranks, etc.).

Online features are questionable. Localized ones have pretty much been confirmed all the way.

 

[HiredN00bs]

By the way Desolation and Tombstone are now IN:



Source: Waypoint News

Oh could you guys add ODST and Reach too, thanks.

 

[II SHABUTIE II]

Frankie said something about Infinity(something about Halo PC) maps not being in? Can anyone confirm that I will or will not be playing on Gephy, Infinity, Ice Fields, Timberland, Danger Canyon and Death Island? I also seen Frank post about Gephy and something else being in? I'm confuse......

 

[Homeboyd]

By the way Desolation and Tombstone are now IN:

Source: Waypoint News

Plus... GAF a few hours ago:

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=115820882

(This thread)

 

[Ghazi]

mfw MC Collection was announced:

 

[belushy]

Why wouldn't they?

They already said Forge maps don't carry over. That means online network that controls the file sharing probably doesn't work as is and it will need to be reworked.

 

[divinedbullet]

Frankie said something about Infinity(something about Halo PC) maps not being in? Can anyone confirm that I will or will not be playing on Gephy, Infinity, Ice Fields, Timberland, Danger Canyon and Death Island? I also seen Frank post about Gephy and something else being in? I'm confuse......

Pretty sure they weren't going to be in. After popular demand from the fans, they changed there minds. Same with those two halo 2 maps tombstone and desolation

 

[Dub117]

Oh could you guys add ODST and Reach too, thanks.

Then they would have to add Wars and change the name. I'm thinking more Halo 2 map remasters and maybe Reach maps for DLC pack. Would buy.

Edit: I should have read this in context. I'll figure out when GAF is talking shit one day.

 

[aHebrewMenagerie]

mfw MC Collection was announced:

Also, trying to vote between podcast names, what do you guys like?

1. 34.3 AM (or FM)
2. Mancannon Radio
3. NeoHaloGAF Radio
4. something else? idk

 

[NobleGundam]

Ghaleon is probably super busy, but what's his opinions about the huge reveals? =)

Also, the H2A SMG's looks and sounds like assets from Halo 3, or close to it.

 

[Tashi]

Also, trying to vote between podcast names, what do you guys like?

1. 34.3 AM (or FM)
2. Mancannon Radio
3. NeoHaloGAF Radio
4. something else? idk

BabbyGAF Radio

 

[DeadNames]

There's another babby here?!

 

[Homeboyd]

BabbyGAF Radio

Babby Babble

 

[User 73706]

It's settled! Mantle of Responsibility Radio it is.

 

[Woorloog]

Ghaleon is probably super busy, but what's his opinions about the huge reveals? =)

Also, the H2A SMG's looks and sounds like assets from Halo 3, or close to it.

The BR and SMG both look a lot like their Halo 3 iterations but they're clearly new models, with much, much higher polycounts.

 

[II SHABUTIE II]

Backwash.... Will the XB1 be able to handle Backwash? If I pick up invis.... Will the game lag?

 

[Booshka]

The Last Guardian Radio

It's appropriate for H5, and you'll get random clicks from people thinking it's that cancelled Japanese game.

 

[Homeboyd]

Randy just PM'd me. It's alive.

 

[willow ve]

Randy just PM'd me. It's alive.

You're already dead

 

[heckfu]

Randy just PM'd me. It's alive.

i'll miss you

 

[Booshka]

Randy just PM'd me. It's alive.

Copy paste all of his PM's. About the same as him copy pasting all of his posts.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

Randy just PM'd me. It's alive.

Spoiler

Don't

Show us the PMs, trololo

 

[squidhands]

It takes a month to create a quality square?

it takes forever to do anything in H3's Forge. Gonna have to re-learn how to do all those damned glitches again, boo.

 

[The Librarian]

It took 8 days to build the floor on Grifball High, and another 2 or 3 to smooth out the bumps.



A.G.L.A.Sandbox took 6 weeks from concept to test.

That gets me right in the nostalgia.