Yeah, I think the pro team had too much input on the map design - and Quin even talked about that on the stream last Friday. Honestly, I am just tired of 343 talking about their pro team that couldn't even beat some European teams lol.
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Halo 5: Guardians |OT2| All Hail The Conquering Hero
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Yeah, I think the pro team had too much input on the map design - and Quin even talked about that on the stream last Friday. Honestly, I am just tired of 343 talking about their pro team that couldn't even beat some European teams lol.
Where are you getting the 1/10th number from? Basing it from what time period?
I may not be the biggest fan of the game but 343 seems to be the one dev out there that constantly listens, posts in these threads and caters to the people who still play the game.
Realistically Halo is in a great position for the hardcore fans. Game came out a little over a month ago, 6 or 8 months from now the game may have a pve mode. It's not a yearly series, they will add to it, give it time
Kinda hard to believe that when you said you were done with Halo 5 for good several days ago, yet your still here in the OT complaining.
Like, you said finished. You were asking people to recommend other shooters. Now, your still here.
I have no issue with expressing a point, but your taking it way further than just "I don't like this game".
Seriously?
A more factually correct statement would be that 1/2 to 2/3 of the Halo fan base have not even bothered to play/buy the game. They have no idea if the experience is worth it or if Halo 5 is a good game. Hopefully they decide to find out for themselves over the next few months.
Where did you get the 1/10th number lol
SmartWaffles
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Well on gaf the popular "opinion" is exactly opposite...
VincentMatts
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What do they have to do with the map aesthetics though? Theyre job was how it plays and the gun balance no? I personally feel like the clamber and guns feel amazing. I dont think they had a say on how the map looks, which is the main problem with the maps.
Poodlestrike
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343i should also give 2 random req cards at the end of every match completed.
It'll almost be the equivelant of 100-200 RP on top of your RP earning for that math; That's if you sell them both.
Maybe if you win you get a higher chance to get an uncommon, rare, ultra rare or legendary. Mythics still will have to be through the gold packs though. Shoot they could even create a new boost cards where it states you have a higher chance of getting rare/ultra rare/legendary when winning a match. Of course it's not guarenteed, but still a higher chance right?AM I EVIL?
THOUGHTS?! COMMENTS?! CONCERNS?! COMPLIMENTS? HIGH FIVES?
Come on Stinkles, what do you think?a little...
Of course though..
ALL GLORY TO FRANKIE
Sounds a little low. I like a system that really incentivizes long stretches of quit-free games. Maybe have a bonus or a multiplier that builds steadily as you complete games without quitting, have it max out at... say, 1.5x-2x after 10 games.That way, people who don't quit see considerably increased returns in general.
They should also really add stuff like "first game of the day" bonuses, something to keep people logging in regularly.
I'm talking about overall design and I think 343 made the aesthetic follow the design philosophy. Not sure if that makes sense to you or not lol.
TheHellsLord
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You can even see that in the "Sprint" video series. They built and tested levels with almost no art being applied. That got sent to the arts team to decide on a theme. It then went through several iterations where Pro Team had input on how some of that broke how the map played so it got reworked.
Pro Team had no input on the looks in general, only where they interfered with gameplay (line of sight, etc.).
Samurai G0SU
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The Jackdog
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it was on the stream friday. they showed off a new map and some reqs from old halo games.
no idea what else is in the update. so far we know:
new map
forge and whatever that brings
some classic helmet reqs and classic rocket launcher
and we know weekend playlist is back this weekend, no idea what the choices are yet, but IT WONT BE ODDBALL GODDAMNIT
VincentMatts
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Ya exactly, and that to me is great. Its really the look of them that i despise.
inoperativ
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Halo 4 did not do that much worse than 3 in absolute numbers, but more importantly the series has been in constant decline sales-wise since 3 once you take install base into account. In fact 5 did better than Reach once you take install base into account in the naive way, so it's the first Halo game to turn the trend around, and that's with the heavy burden of following up on the MCC fiasco.
It's not hardcore Halo fans that are the "problem" btw, it's casual shooter fans that have migrated to CoD, Battlefield, and so on. You're not going to win them back by recreating 8 years old gameplay.
link1201
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I saw that but is the supposed to be another community update written or streamed this week?
I agree I hated 3 but Reach was my jam. It felt like an MMO and what Destiny should be. Still holds the spot as my favorite shooter.
The Jackdog
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hopefully will still come friday per usual right? hopefully with some real info too
Diablohead
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So the 3d printing is available now...how many of you are going to get a 3d print of your spartan?
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/games/halo-5-guardians/3d-printing
I'd buy the 4 inch model of my spartan if the postage was good, most likely not as US to UK seems to always cost £30+ for some unknown and dumb reason.
Those example photos have to be of the large size right? i'd expect the small version to be rather basic and not too detailed due to the nature of 3D colour print.
Pop
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Spawn system is real bad but especially terrible in BTB.
link1201
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I hope so but I'm off starting Wednesday so 343 may be off as well. I wasn't sure if they announced something either way.
I'm sure it's pretty much written up at this point and they're just waiting for friday to come along. Not too worried as I think they would've said no update this week if that was the case.
Lol there's a difference between you not liking the game, and the game not playing well. It plays very well.
I've been a halo fan since day one. This game has the best mechanics in franchise history. It just happens that there is much stiffer competition these days. It's just strange that you think this games sales are directly related to sprint, and your niggles with the map design.
link1201
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Ok, so they didn't mention canceling it in the last update? I had to stop watching before it ended.
Ooh I never saw that. Interesting that it's called File Browser.. In-game customs plssss.
Easy Breezy
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No don't think so
Diablohead
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yes, one spartan on the ground dead and another squatting over their face
Feel the Swift
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Jack the Ripper doesn't want to admit that if this game played more like classic halo it would have much less users playing it.
In my anecdotal MCC experience, I saw WAY too many people voting halo 4 over the other ones. The public has moved on and 343 could have easily doubled down on casuallzing Halo.
But they didn't. The added some features the public expects. Sprint and ADS mainly. But nerfed sprint and made ADS cosmetic. The new movement options and abilities seemed to actually be well thought out and integrated into the game. They feel fluid whereas armor abilities always felt tacked on.
However the game is still punished for being TOO halo. Whatever. People are idiots.
I'll take a Halo game I enjoy that is unpopular to a shit halo game that a lot of people play.
In my anecdotal MCC experience, I saw WAY too many people voting halo 4 over the other ones. The public has moved on and 343 could have easily doubled down on casuallzing Halo.
But they didn't. The added some features the public expects. Sprint and ADS mainly. But nerfed sprint and made ADS cosmetic. The new movement options and abilities seemed to actually be well thought out and integrated into the game. They feel fluid whereas armor abilities always felt tacked on.
However the game is still punished for being TOO halo. Whatever. People are idiots.
I'll take a Halo game I enjoy that is unpopular to a shit halo game that a lot of people play.
343i should also give 2 random req cards at the end of every match completed.
It'll almost be the equivelant of 100-200 RP on top of your RP earning for that math; That's if you sell them both.
Maybe if you win you get a higher chance to get an uncommon, rare, ultra rare or legendary. Mythics still will have to be through the gold packs though. Shoot they could even create a new boost cards where it states you have a higher chance of getting rare/ultra rare/legendary when winning a match. Of course it's not guarenteed, but still a higher chance right?
THOUGHTS?! COMMENTS?! CONCERNS?! COMPLIMENTS? HIGH FIVES?
Come on Stinkles, what do you think?a little...
Of course though..
ALL GLORY TO FRANKIE
I suggested that before. Idea stealerer!
Slight chance increase on win is cool though. Or maybe even concurrent matches = better rarity chance. Played 10 games? Rares will start dropping.
VincentMatts
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During the holidays, the game population will go up and down cause theres a lot of new games. So people try them out. Having 100K people to me is popular. I think whats important is whether people still wanna come back to it afterwards and i have to say, i did. Even after playing F3, BO3, BF, i still want me some halo MP. That to me, is the sign of a great game. When u wanna go back.
SavageCobra
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I know they're doing free shipping on all orders, but not sure if that applies internationally.
Samurai G0SU
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>=D
NAH UH!!!! MINE!
EDIT: SEEN YOUR EDIT BRAH.
Yeah, that sounds good too! Then no-one would stop playing. They'd play forever until they got all rare reqs unlocked.
I wonder if the price would be higher since it would include 2 Spartans.
I think 3 of the pro team members designed a few Breakout maps. Gambol, Altitude, and Trident. In terms of all the other maps I'm not sure.
link1201
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I agree, especially with the bolded. This game is amazingly good. What it added is truly an asset to the sandbox. I am always anxious to play. I haven't felt that way in years. Nothing is perfect but I really like what we have and it's still early. I am looking forward to more tweaks and adjustments.
Is Funny to see how some who dont like the game blame it for Halo "small" population, it isnt about 343, at the end is the competition, Especifically CoD, isnt it weird that black ops 2 still had a 11 million monthly user just a couple of months ago, yet Halo 3 couldn't keep a decent population after Halo Reach? It isnt weird, people just need to accept that the problem isnt the games, the problem os the competition.
Every Halo have had changes, and every New Halo there is always going to be a group that will start listing why the new Halo is the worst and blah blah blah, but the correlation between population counter and quality is laughable.
People talk how low Halo 4 fell, guess the game that came out one week after: the same game that after 3 years it has a population in the millions, black ops 2.
The only mistake MS has been doing since Halo 4 has been making Halo compete directly against CoD, IMO. Halo 3 and Halo Reach were released one month before the release of that year Call of Duty, now is one week before, and I think this has a big factor in CU's
Every Halo have had changes, and every New Halo there is always going to be a group that will start listing why the new Halo is the worst and blah blah blah, but the correlation between population counter and quality is laughable.
People talk how low Halo 4 fell, guess the game that came out one week after: the same game that after 3 years it has a population in the millions, black ops 2.
The only mistake MS has been doing since Halo 4 has been making Halo compete directly against CoD, IMO. Halo 3 and Halo Reach were released one month before the release of that year Call of Duty, now is one week before, and I think this has a big factor in CU's
yup to bolded. dumbed down combat has a time and a place and is present in many other games so options abound. The new mechanics are sublime and amazing.
Diablohead
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will have to ask them and find out as I would love a little noble armored spartan to add to my model collection
Yesterday I logged in with 4 of my Halo friends of old, we used to play Halo 3 LAN every Saturday, usually a group of more than 12 people, and everyone were having a lot of fun reminding us those Halo 3 days. You ask why the group have decreased? some of them dont even have an Xbox one, others are just too busy to log in with regularity.
Also, and I hope 343 is on this, but stand off have a bad spawn point at the beggining of the game, Yesterday I started the game in the others team side.
http://xboxclips.com/zCaja/12e4c1de-f011-435b-bfa2-feeec533086d
Also, and I hope 343 is on this, but stand off have a bad spawn point at the beggining of the game, Yesterday I started the game in the others team side.
http://xboxclips.com/zCaja/12e4c1de-f011-435b-bfa2-feeec533086d
So the 3d printing is available now...how many of you are going to get a 3d print of your spartan?
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/games/halo-5-guardians/3d-printing
i change mine up too often.
Samurai G0SU
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I only have an issue with spawning in Deadlock so far. Take 5 steps and im getting pelted by chikmunks and their nest of nuts.
it isnt fun.
it isnt fun.
Diablohead
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I'm sorry but WTF with gungoose, they kill me with direct hits all the time yet when I HIT SOMEONE DIRECTLY TWICE all they get is dropped shields.
I swear I have a hidden handicap enabled in this game.
I swear I have a hidden handicap enabled in this game.
Twilight Gap
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lol come on Jack, the shape of a Jackal's jaw is not anywhere near the reason why Halo 5 is "not popular" or "not selling well", and the general populace sure as hell isn't avoiding the game because of Sprint. I'm not even sure where these popularity narratives came from to begin with. Halo 5 has actually exceeded my expectations given the install base, the general state of Halo following MCC and the lack of content in the game itself. The latter is the sole reason why this game would run into any trouble. The core is arguably the strongest its been in spite of whatever small issues it may have, but there just isn't enough game around that yet - not what is typically associated with a Halo release.
Halo 3 had little to no competition. MW came out of nowhere and COD became the FPS game of choice for the masses. By the time Reach and Halo 4 came out, COD was the top dog and was selling on a completely different level than Halo. Nonetheless Halo held its own on the 360. The FPS genre on consoles has lots of games but only 2 to 3 of them actually had a huge following (COD, Halo, BF and maybe Killzone 2) up until now. However Destiny, Titanfall and Battlefront are going to grab a piece of the pie. Especially Destiny which seems to be a natural evolution of the genre.
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