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Halo 5: Guardians |OT2| All Hail The Conquering Hero
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The Jackdog
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i really like having both.
i like that i have a casual mode where i can get in a tank when i want and blow stuff up.
i like that after that i can keep the large player number experience but make it more competitive
and i like that after that i can get super competitive with arena.
I'm constantly running out of boosts for Arena.. I feel like there should be singular Req card drops at the end of every match on top of your Req points or something. Whether it be a boost or an uncommon weapon etc. Not perm unlocks, just single use cards. Plus it'd make people go ooh one more game, I just had a rare boost drop.
The Jackdog
Member
game needs daily missions with req rewards. could help cut down on quitters too
That feel when somebody SC'es into nowhere, because you Thrusted away.
Allthough it feels like I have to do it several seconds in advance, because of the delay I'm getting.
Or XP/RP Jackpots similiar to how Reach had Cr jackpots, when people didn't quit.
link1201
Member
I think I like them both too. I am really glad though they didn't double down and make the whole game like Warzone, an expanded Halo 4 experience.
Either or both of these would work too. I don't get why they don't keep features like that that are well received and work well in past games.
RSB
Banned
Yep, Reach is nowhere near as enjoyable to play as Halo 5 (IMO) but I can't deny it was much better at offering something for every kind of player (same with Destiny) Firefight, Social Playlists, Daily and Weekly Challenges, Campaign Scoring, Forge, Campaign Theatre... so many things they could (should) add. Right now, Halo 5 is seriously lacking in content and variety.
The Jackdog
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i dont think it goes against their business model too. if they really are adding 40+ reqs a month, a very small subset of the community is going to unlock EVERYTHING really fast. i think even in regards to the level cap, going from like 140 to 141 takes as long as it takes to get from like 1 to 100.
so giving people slightly more req points or xp for completing challenges just keeps pushing people to the req system. the more people that use reqs the better right? driving users towards reqs should, and i think history shows with games with a similar system, drive more req purchases.
hell i want them to go all out. give us the option to buy the hcs gear in a pack and have that give the majority to the prize pool. give us a free holiday pack with christmas skins. be dumb with it. arena is balanced already, warzone is all about silly fun anyway
Agreed. 343i will need to release new content at a steady pace and non stop until the summer. Thankfully so far that seems to be their plan.
Yeah 100-200k is where you want to be at usually
Twilight Gap
Member
should have clarified - it may not be popular with the mainstream audience for those reasons.
I don't think it has much to do with the game being "hard" so much as it is lacking the things every other game is offering.
Well, obviously it's only successfull when it has a peak population of 1 Million players, like Halo 3 had, when no competition was arround.
yea we're never getting halo 3 numbers again.
Forerunner
Member
That why Reach is and probably will always be my most played Halo, there was just so much to do. Go to the campaign to do dailies/weekly/monthly; after that there were so many different types of game modes, Invasion and Headhunter for example. Once I got tired of pvp, there was always Firefight to do. There was always something to do in that game to keep it enjoyable. People can hate on Reach all they want, but it was just so enjoyable for me. I wish 343i would just take all the content and put it in H5.
Well, obviously it's only successfull when it has a peak population of 1 Million players, like Halo 3 had, when no competition was arround.
Diablohead
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Lack of Firefight and Infection is most likely a big reason for people not sticking around with halo, not enough competitive players out there to make up the missing numbers.
The REQ system could work well with Firefight PvE stuff, think how amazing it could be to call in a scorpion to go against dozens of flood or elite enemies that spawn inside the different building structures on warzone maps.
The REQ system could work well with Firefight PvE stuff, think how amazing it could be to call in a scorpion to go against dozens of flood or elite enemies that spawn inside the different building structures on warzone maps.
The Jackdog
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its almost amazing to me this ISNT in the game.
its another mode for people to use their reqs in game. more req usage should equal more req pack purchases too. seems like a no brainer.
VincentMatts
Member
So this happened on Warzone....Quite possibly the quickest match i have had!
and I took the final shot!
Here
But then decided to have a game of SWAT for the first time and yeah...I knew why i loved that game type in the previous halos
Quick thinking while enemy was in mid air
and
The only way I can go out in style
some of my best games i think
I raise you and put this in:
inoperativ
Member
If Battlefront can sustain ~100K there's very little correlation between the amount and variety of content and popularity. I think it has more to do with offering experiences that are enjoyable to a wide audience.
Ricky Ricardo
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Beat Legendary last night. Came to like Osiris a bit more, but it's clear from the concept art that Halo 5 originally started life as a solo Master Chief adventure.
However, the hub world aspects of the campaign, with missions being set on different planets could yield some VERY interesting experiences in the future. Couple that with the fact that we've got Blue Team and Osiris on deck together, I could see some sort of pick-your-squad deal going forward.
Overall, I like the plot and where things are headed. Lore wise, it's somewhat plausible. But the narrative was weak, character development was not as strong as in Halo 4, and I suspect it's not that way just because. *Shrug*
Now for skulls, intel, and those mission specific achievements.
However, the hub world aspects of the campaign, with missions being set on different planets could yield some VERY interesting experiences in the future. Couple that with the fact that we've got Blue Team and Osiris on deck together, I could see some sort of pick-your-squad deal going forward.
Overall, I like the plot and where things are headed. Lore wise, it's somewhat plausible. But the narrative was weak, character development was not as strong as in Halo 4, and I suspect it's not that way just because. *Shrug*
Now for skulls, intel, and those mission specific achievements.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
bring back classic art, gameplay, map design, no sprint, and actually make it all well and it will do better imo
not sure why "halo of today" can't do better or why we settle for saying what we expect. I expect it to push 300k plus , especially near lanch
VincentMatts
Member
Sprint isnt going anywhere, if anything, they take that out and i would totally quit playing. People really need to get over the spartans dont run bullshit. Its 2015, the game has evolved its time to accept change.
Gameplay and sound design is solid as fuck in Halo 5, but the art direction and design philosophy for the MP maps just horrible. Everything is vanilla and UNSC. I'd like to see more nature and exciting sky boxes. That's actually a bit more important to me than the map playing well.
Oh come off it already, this game plays just as good or better than any previous Halo.
VincentMatts
Member
Well i think these maps are proof that the maps looking and feeling like halo is just as important as them playing well. Man, i never thought id say this but the fucking forge maps in BTB feel more like halo than 343s maps. Its embarrassing.
If the market is really asking for Halo 1 or 2 again, then it begs the question of why there's no popular game that's like Halo 1 or 2.
SavageCobra
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So the 3d printing is available now...how many of you are going to get a 3d print of your spartan?
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/games/halo-5-guardians/3d-printing
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/games/halo-5-guardians/3d-printing
Completely disagree. Remove things like sprint and people will get frustrated not being able to sprint. It will drive the casual user base away. From what I can tell, most people who are still "into" Halo think Halo 5 is a really good game. The fact is, after Reach and Halo 4 a LOT of people lost interest. With so many other decent games out at the minute (Fallout, BLOPS, Battlefront etc) removing sprint etc isn't going to bring those people back.
I can remember trying to use the DMR in Reach, and then saying fuck it out of frustration (bloom, WTF was that?) and never playing the game again. It was things like that which put people off Halo, not sprint imo.
I really don't think its cut and dry. I'm not sure why you think making Halo3.5 would instantly restore the franchise to its former glory. The market has changed, people are expecting different things out of there shooters.
If you make a good game with content people want to keep coming back to, the game will do well. I don't think Blops3 fans are skipping Halo5 because halo 5 has sprint or art that differs from Bungie's work. Many people in 343i's target demographic have never even played Halo before, and grew up on COD.
justsomeguy
Member
Dude, it's Jack the Nipper, he can't go two pages without talking about taking sprint out.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
LOL "All we need to do is what we've already done in the past and it should work, right?"
You're living in a bubble of naivete. Halo no longer exists unchallenged in the FPS market, and that's not going to change.
VincentMatts
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Im a long time halo guy, ive played over 4000 games of 2 online and as soon as i replayed it in MCC, i kept trying to sprint. Even with 4000 online games of old school halo2 couldn't change that reflex. It just too slow without it and honestly, i really dont think it changed the core gameplay all that much. 5 to me plays and feels like halo even with it. Especially BTB. I honestly cant comprehend why anyone would wanna go back to not having it. It just feels like their holding on to a dream.
lol its insane
Imagine playing warzone without sprint lol
But yea "classic" gameplay isn't going to make the game return to H3 numbers. Halo will never see those numbers again.
I'm not really concerned with H5 population tho. It's going to get updated constantly and the core gameplay is very good. It will maintain a healthy population for a long time for these 2 reasons alone...
But yea "classic" gameplay isn't going to make the game return to H3 numbers. Halo will never see those numbers again.
I'm not really concerned with H5 population tho. It's going to get updated constantly and the core gameplay is very good. It will maintain a healthy population for a long time for these 2 reasons alone...
The Jackdog
Member
ElzarTheBam
Member
Heh. Looking at the NPD thread there was a lot of people who expected the game to do Halo 3 numbers.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
oh god, the 2015 all games have to have sprint excuse, man that's just sad.... honestly
So sick of this "sprint' and modern shit. It JUST doesn't have to be in a game to be worth playing. So sick of this poor excuse.
just add sprint to evolve your game devs, there you go
Keep sprint in 343, keep these sales as well.
I will admit making the change now is probably too late, no matter what halo 6 is reach - 4 to 5 has probably already did it's damage. I have faith if halo looke, felt and played right it would do much better than 4 an 5 though. Not halo 3 numbers, but much better than 4 an 5.
But i honestly don't think 343 has the people that can actually do it.
but it doesn't, when you have worse maps when you have super strange vehicle physics, when you have dashing, super lock ground punches and all this stuff.. no. I'm sorry... it just doesn't play as well. It has too much going on, it is just not the game fans liked. you like it, others like it. that is fine, that is fair, but the fans of the games have voiced and showed with their wallet and play time, pretty point blank.
VincentMatts
Member
The majority of fans think this game is the best halo MP yet. So like it or not, youre going to have to deal with it or you can move onto another game. Plain and simple.
The Jackdog
Member
yup. all of halo 5's problems are cause of sprint.
every single one comes back to sprint.
let it go man
The Jackdog
Member
if theres a fileshare worth a damn!
Jack The Nipper
Banned
that shows in having 1/10th the player base, yep
1/10th of the halo fanbase fells this is the best playing halo ever.
You should re word your sentence into 1/10th of the halo base that likes halo 5 fels its the best playing yet.
man, im sorry. I know im in a bad mood today but this game isn't halo. Just need to go out, just hate that halo has turned into this bickering piece of a subject.
Samurai G0SU
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343i should also give 2 random req cards at the end of every match completed.
It'll almost be the equivelant of 100-200 RP on top of your RP earning for that math; That's if you sell them both.
Maybe if you win you get a higher chance to get an uncommon, rare, ultra rare or legendary. Mythics still will have to be through the gold packs though. Shoot they could even create a new boost cards where it states you have a higher chance of getting rare/ultra rare/legendary when winning a match. Of course it's not guarenteed, but still a higher chance right?
AM I EVIL?
THOUGHTS?! COMMENTS?! CONCERNS?! COMPLIMENTS? HIGH FIVES?
Come on Stinkles, what do you think? Maybe this will swade quitters to stop!
Of course though..
It'll almost be the equivelant of 100-200 RP on top of your RP earning for that math; That's if you sell them both.
Maybe if you win you get a higher chance to get an uncommon, rare, ultra rare or legendary. Mythics still will have to be through the gold packs though. Shoot they could even create a new boost cards where it states you have a higher chance of getting rare/ultra rare/legendary when winning a match. Of course it's not guarenteed, but still a higher chance right?
AM I EVIL?THOUGHTS?! COMMENTS?! CONCERNS?! COMPLIMENTS? HIGH FIVES?
Come on Stinkles, what do you think?
Maybe this will swade quitters to stop!
a little...
Of course though..
ALL GLORY TO FRANKIE
The Jackdog
Member
a lot of people love it. it might not have reach numbers because the climate isnt NEARLY the same as reach, but damn man, it seems like it was just destined to not be good for you.
VincentMatts
Member
Destined? He clearly was never going to like it. That much is obvious.
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