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Halo 5: Guardians |OT2| All Hail The Conquering Hero

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arimanius

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I think warzone is amazing.
I also don't mind the last bullet boss kill.

People need to work together to kill the enemy, every boss and take bases. Unfortunately not every time you get good people to work with. They think it's only about capturing bases. But when you have good team with ya, it just amazing imo :)

I think it's a trash mode with nothing but lopsided usually defeats. I just spent an ultra rare mission victory boost and lost 1000 to 405.

Maybe it's because I only play solo but only reason I even tolerate it is to get my free pack and practice before I do arena.
 

Detective

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I think it's a trash mode with nothing but lopsided usually defeats. I just spent an ultra rare mission victory boost and lost 1000 to 405.

Maybe it's because I only play solo but only reason I even tolerate it is to get my free pack and practice before I do arena.

I also do play solo. Maybe it's not for you :)
Great for warm up :D
 

Glass

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This is as close as I've gotten to mark IV so far, had to stop and admire it
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Nutter

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Oh me and ram lose plenty of games everyday, and we lost plenty in our placement games but we both ranked Onyx. To be fair we absolutely shit on the platimnums and diamonds.

So juices being platinum makes sense. :p

Also I'm older than ram and my skills are no where near where they were during later Halo 2 days.
 

Detective

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Man...look at those posts on waypoint about the lag and EU servers.

Gald it's not just me.
Usually when the game lags I would fall back into the campaign. Given the campaign sucks one would have to move to another game.

No wonder this game falls back from 10 playlist.

Before I used to play halo campaign to run away from other shitty games. I've maybe completed CE campaign over 500 Times. H2, 3 and also reach.


Given how cluster fuck MCC was I had to get a refund. So even those games which was already made 343 maneged to fuck them up. So where am I supposed to run now? COD?

Maybe all just find a used MCC and use my time on the campaign there.

Really hate this gen. It fucked all the Halo spirit For me.
 

E92 M3

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Worked my way from Gold 1 to Plat 2 in FFA. Feeling this return to Halo. Have a lot of work ahead to get into Onyx this season.
 
I don't think placements should even be a thing. No way you can measure performance in 10 rounds. You should start from bottom tier and work up, simple as that. Make seasons 3 months to compensate for the longer rank progression.

Isn't that just like if everybody automatically placed at the bottommost tier?

So less accurate by default?
 

RowdyReverb

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I don't get the complaints about be ranked "too low". If you are truly a big fish in a little pond, you should rise. I got ranked "too high" in Slayer when the game launched and it effectively ruined the mode for me since I couldn't compete. Now I'm of the mindset of trusting the game's assessment to put me in potentially winnable matches.

I'd much rather have a ladder I can actually climb than an ego-inflating high initial rank.
 

Madness

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Oh me and ram lose plenty of games everyday, and we lost plenty in our placement games but we both ranked Onyx. To be fair we absolutely shit on the platimnums and diamonds.

So juices being platinum makes sense. :p

Also I'm older than ram and my skills are no where near where they were during later Halo 2 days.

Can anyone here legitimately say they're better than they were for CE/2 maybe Halo 3 days? It's just natural. Most of us are pushing late 20's, 30's, even 40's now.

My eyes have recently gotten even worse than they were at Halo 5 launch, lol, have to get sceleral lenses now to stop them from getting any worse.
 

Strider

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Awwww yea. I was pretty close to getting all the rare reqs afterall like you guys said... Just got 2 1500 reqs when I opened up a silver.
 

Madness

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I don't get the complaints about be ranked "too low". If you are truly a big fish in a little pond, you should rise. I got ranked "too high" in Slayer when the game launched and it effectively ruined the mode for me since I couldn't compete. Now I'm of the mindset of trusting the game's assessment to put me in potentially winnable matches.

I'd much rather have a ladder I can actually climb than an ego-inflating high initial rank.

You'd think that, but the double edged sword is that people of a much lower skill become your teammates and so hard to advance, even if you go 21-4, if your teammates go like 9-17, 2-11 etc.
 

Nutter

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Can anyone here legitimately say they're better than they were for CE/2 maybe Halo 3 days? It's just natural. Most of us are pushing late 20's, 30's, even 40's now.

My eyes have recently gotten even worse than they were at Halo 5 launch, lol, have to get sceleral lenses now to stop them from getting any worse.

Not as good but I would like to think that we can still hold our own. I mean even being in onyx we still have a win rate above 50%. So we are doing something right I guess.
 

Strider

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You'd think that, but the double edged sword is that people of a much lower skill become your teammates and so hard to advance, even if you go 21-4, if your teammates go like 9-17, 2-11 etc.

That's not how it works... It does happen but it's not every game. Your teammates will be of roughly equal skill to your enemies most of the time. You are the difference maker. If you are better than your rank it will show in your performance over time and you will rise in ranks.

Plenty of people have gone up multiple tiers just by solo queueing. People blame their teammates all the time becuase they can't rank up but the reality is they just aren't as good as they think they are.
 

arimanius

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Can anyone here legitimately say they're better than they were for CE/2 maybe Halo 3 days? It's just natural. Most of us are pushing late 20's, 30's, even 40's now.

My eyes have recently gotten even worse than they were at Halo 5 launch, lol, have to get sceleral lenses now to stop them from getting any worse.

Even 40 now. :| lol
 

BraXzy

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I don't get the complaints about be ranked "too low". If you are truly a big fish in a little pond, you should rise. I got ranked "too high" in Slayer when the game launched and it effectively ruined the mode for me since I couldn't compete. Now I'm of the mindset of trusting the game's assessment to put me in potentially winnable matches.

I'd much rather have a ladder I can actually climb than an ego-inflating high initial rank.

You'd think that, but the double edged sword is that people of a much lower skill become your teammates and so hard to advance, even if you go 21-4, if your teammates go like 9-17, 2-11 etc.

Yup. Some of my games are so uneven now. Either my teammates are all playing the game seemingly for the first time, or they have a player clearly also intended for a higher rank that is playing better than you and carries harder.
 

RowdyReverb

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You'd think that, but the double edged sword is that people of a much lower skill become your teammates and so hard to advance, even if you go 21-4, if your teammates go like 9-17, 2-11 etc.
I play most of my arena matches solo. You have to adapt your strategies if this keeps happening to you. Stick close to your differently-abled teammates and help them with your natural gifts.
That's not how it works... It does happen but it's not every game. Your teammates will be of roughly equal skill to your enemies most of the time. You are the difference maker. If you are better than your rank it will show in your performance over time and you will rise in ranks.

Plenty of people have gone up multiple tiers just by solo queueing. People blame their teammates all the time becuase they can't rank up but the reality is they just aren't as good as they think they are.
This is the harsh reality of it. It's not worth raging against the machine. Just play your matches and try your best to have fun.
Yup. Some of my games are so uneven now. Either my teammates are all playing the game seemingly for the first time, or they have a player clearly also intended for a higher rank that is playing better than you and carries harder.
That does happen, but it seems to get better after the first few days of the season as people gravitate toward their true skill level. At least that's been my experience
 

Welfare

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Can anyone here legitimately say they're better than they were for CE/2 maybe Halo 3 days? It's just natural. Most of us are pushing late 20's, 30's, even 40's now.

My eyes have recently gotten even worse than they were at Halo 5 launch, lol, have to get sceleral lenses now to stop them from getting any worse.

My peak was definitely in Halo Reach/4.

Such a bad kid in comparison now. Myself during that period would beat present me so badly in Arena.
 

Madness

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That's not how it works... It does happen but it's not every game. Your teammates will be of roughly equal skill to your enemies most of the time. You are the difference maker. If you are better than your rank it will show in your performance over time and you will rise in ranks.

Plenty of people have gone up multiple tiers just by solo queueing. People blame their teammates all the time becuase they can't rank up but the reality is they just aren't as good as they think they are.

Never said it was every game. And you're admitting the same above that it can or does happen. I'm not even complaining, just saying that, if you get placed too low, it's a grind to go up, no matter how good you are, because your teammates can still lose it for you. But people who play and grind, will eventually go up, only because if they are ranked low, they will play at a higher skill level, can't be deranked.

But remember, with seasonal playlists now, resetting ranks, you have what? 45-60 days to go up. Maybe the system will get better, internal MMR and whatnot. Personally I don't even care about the emblem anymore. I don't even look at the carnage report. I don't even know what level guys I'm playing with, what medals we got. Pre and Post Game are pretty poor.
 
That's not how it works... It does happen but it's not every game. Your teammates will be of roughly equal skill to your enemies most of the time. You are the difference maker. If you are better than your rank it will show in your performance over time and you will rise in ranks.

Plenty of people have gone up multiple tiers just by solo queueing. People blame their teammates all the time becuase they can't rank up but the reality is they just aren't as good as they think they are.

This makes sense.

Also it doesnt. If hes truly a better player and will eventually rise above the crap when he proves himself, the system failed at properly placing him.

I understand you're just basically saying "take your licks"

Why? Why should I have to be punished because I cant carry 3 teammates who do terrible?


Why should I ever be penalized for THAT?
 

BraXzy

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Just played against a Champion in SWAT.. I went 20-14 we lost by like 5 because someone went 1-12. I'm apparently platinum?
 
Forge just skyrocketed this game into my favorite Halo MP. i can build basically anything i can think of and the game handles so fucking well that it makes it a joy to play. The abilities open up the gameplay tremendously, to the point where even if Forge was this powerful in past games, it wouldn't be as interesting without being able to Thrust to ledges or Ground Pound down into a room. Building for this new uncharted territory is both challenging and liberating in the sense that you have to think way out of the box to create something unique. Gone are the days of flat litter boxy maps (or at least they should be gone) and the game is better for it, with increased verticality and additional movement options. It blows my mind that you can slide into a jump, or spartan charge off of a platform and still thrust onto another one without breaking a sweat. Truly sublime, and watching that gameplay unfold on a fresh design is humbling.

Now if only the armor looked halfway as good as Reach's, because I went back on there and saw dat kat ass my Spartan and then looked at my Halo 5 one. Feels bad man.
 

Strider

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Also it doesnt. If hes truly a better player and will eventually rise above the crap when he proves himself, the system failed at properly placing him.
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Placement matches are far from perfect... But it's still better than having everyone start at the bottom and working there way up. The current system still gets players at their proper rank faster than the older games. I literally would get in a group of frineds and play hours until we got a close match starting at the bottom (level 1). I mean sure it was fun winning but the games weren't competitive at all and I'd think those low level players we would stomp were'nt having a good time.
 

RowdyReverb

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This makes sense.

Also it doesnt. If hes truly a better player and will eventually rise above the crap when he proves himself, the system failed at properly placing him.

I understand you're just basically saying "take your licks"

Why? Why should I have to be punished because I cant carry 3 teammates who do terrible?

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Why should I ever be penalized for THAT?
Yeah, you're pretty much fucked in SWAT if you're not playing with decent players because there's frankly not much team play involved in that mode. At least in other game modes you can be the solid foundation of your bad team by playing them like escort missions and tailing the worst teammates.
 

BraXzy

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Forge just skyrocketed this game into my favorite Halo MP. i can build basically anything i can think of and the game handles so fucking well that it makes it a joy to play. The abilities open up the gameplay tremendously, to the point where even if Forge was this powerful in past games, it wouldn't be as interesting without being able to Thrust to ledges or Ground Pound down into a room. Building for this new uncharted territory is both challenging and liberating in the sense that you have to think way out of the box to create something unique. Gone are the days of flat litter boxy maps (or at least they should be gone) and the game is better for it, with increased verticality and additional movement options. It blows my mind that you can slide into a jump, or spartan charge off of a platform and still thrust onto another one without breaking a sweat. Truly sublime, and watching that gameplay unfold on a fresh design is humbling.

Now if only the armor looked halfway as good as Reach's, because I went back on there and saw dat kat ass my Spartan and then looked at my Halo 5 one. Feels bad man.

Yeah it's so so good. Already seeing some fantastic creations, your stuff included ;)

I'm very excited to see what people come up with when they really utilize the sandbox after spending a lotta time. Some of the stuff I keep coming across, whether it's some cool FX or the fact you can add sound cues just continues to out a smile on my face.
 

Welfare

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Most annoying thing about Warzone to me. Stuff despawns so quickly :( No chance to recover it...

I think if no one picks it up, it will despawn before you spawn.

Most annoying shit mechanic in the game. If I die right outside a base that I own and no one picks up the weapon, I should be able to run and grab it again.
 

malfcn

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This is fucked. Spawn with a Scorpion and before I can move they blow it up. Good thing I still most of this shit for skins.
 

RowdyReverb

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Yeah it's so so good. Already seeing some fantastic creations, your stuff included ;)

I'm very excited to see what people come up with when they really utilize the sandbox after spending a lotta time. Some of the stuff I keep coming across, whether it's some cool FX or the fact you can add sound cues just continues to out a smile on my face.
I really wish they would implement something for discoverability in File Share so some of these complex creations get more exposure. Even a plain old "What's Hot" section would be enough.
What playlists has the new Arena map overgrowth?
I know Team Arena has Strongholds on it. Slayer too, I think
 

Caja 117

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This makes sense.

Also it doesnt. If hes truly a better player and will eventually rise above the crap when he proves himself, the system failed at properly placing him.

I understand you're just basically saying "take your licks"

Why? Why should I have to be punished because I cant carry 3 teammates who do terrible?



Why should I ever be penalized for THAT?

You didnt had 3 bad teamates, the team that won is the one that had an exeptional player that did above average in that game, and you still lost just by 8, in my eyes matchmaking did its job.

If you would had done better than him your team would had won.
(Im guessing you are deffendthecasual).
 

Madness

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Most annoying thing about Warzone to me. Stuff despawns so quickly :( No chance to recover it...

I think it's the player count right? Because Arena becomes a junkyard with weapon drops which is good considering how fast Halo 4 despawned weapons.

The only thing I hate is Warzone Assault as well. Being spawned outside with a decent weapon and you get pinged before you can even move somewhere. Or being unlucky and spawning right near an enemy with a vehicle and they board it instantly.
 

Strider

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All I know is people love pointing out when their teammates suck or quit but they never acknowledge when the enemy team has people that sucked or quit lol It balances out.
 

BraXzy

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I really wish they would implement something for discoverability in File Share so some of these complex creations get more exposure. Even a plain old "What's Hot" section would be enough.

I know Team Arena has Strongholds on it. Slayer too, I think

#CustomGameBrowserOrRiot?

I know they said they're gonna be improving it in some way but I hope its sooner rather than later. Otherwise people aren't gonna get their stuff out their so easy unless they're already part of an active community like ForgeHub.

I remember in H3 I had so many people on my list that played religiously, I would have customs games most nights. Often me putting them together since I had all the best maps and modes. There was never a lack of people. RIP partyless, smaller pool of online games era.
 

BraXzy

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One thing about placements that people need to remember is that a high amount of wins doesn't automatically mean you belong in Onyx.

It takes quite highly into account the people you play against. If you win 9/10 matches against Silvers, you probably aren't gonna place higher than Gold. And its why when I had a negative KDA in my Team Arena placements I still hit champ, because I was playing with a pro against people far better than me.

Don't get me wrong, sometimes it doesn't get it right. Especially with SWAT currently. It feels way off, FFA seems okay though.
 
You didnt had 3 bad teamates, the team that won is the one that had an exeptional player that did above average in that game, and you still lost just by 8, in my eyes matchmaking did its job.

If you would had done better than him your team would had won.
(Im guessing you are deffendthecasual).

I did have 3 bad teammates actually.

My best teammate did worse than their worst teammate.

You can technically argue I did better than the "exceptional" player, K/D wise. Yes I wasn't able to get as many kills but I didn't contribute as many deaths as him.

Anyways its just frustrating. W/L should become more important as you increase fireteam size IMO. When not in fireteam and solo K/D should become more important. Kinda even out the battlefield in this "team" game.

Its all a bunch of bullshit anyways I'm a game or two away from Diamond already I just got too tired to continue tonight.

Maybe next time I have some free time a few days from now I can finish this. Then to crawl through Diamond garbage.
 
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I wonder if Ram thinks the game is doing an appropriate job of matching him with appropriate players for the competition.

Personally I'd say no, but then, I've never been a member of the 343i hug box club. My position that their matchmaking is an absolute embarrassing failure is pretty well established.

Don't blame Dead Eye for leaving. It was pretty clear from the opening 4-0 sweep, that the match was predetermined to be a one-sided ass-kicking.
 

BraXzy

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Btw GGs today Unstable. Forge was fun if not productive.. I'll hopefully finish up my Breakout map sometime after Christmas. Who knows. Plus I think I might need to make a couple of gametypes based on some stuff. #Assassins #Floaters

Oh and ty for suffering through my last few placement matches. If it makes you feel any better, my first 5 were solo queue :3
 
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