Welfare
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Nope, but CTF, Breakout and Strongholds are.
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Halo 5: Guardians |OT2| All Hail The Conquering Hero
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Nope, but CTF, Breakout and Strongholds are.
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I think any mode you can play online is available in customs, nothing more. So there is Shotty Snipes, but not Oddball etc. Need to have a proper look though.
Not seen a vote yet, perhaps BTB will be the double xp playlist this week? Who knows.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Have you seen the negative poop mountains on Beyond's forums at times? The community minded folks have thick skins thankfully. Anyways, we already have a lot of coverage from 343 folks on GAF.
Would hate it if folks got into their heads that they had to come to GAF and post to try to get a better chance of getting 343's attention or something.
Ah man, that's a major mis-step imo, KOH, 1-Flag CTF and Assault are Halo staples! Hopefully they're added later.
Is there a GAF Custom Game community yet? Or maybe it will pop up when there's Forge maps to play on?
Diablohead
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Biggest issue with 1 flag in 2015 is that if the first attacking team captures the flag, the other team quits.
One way I would suggest as a possible fix for this would be to change how one flag scoring goes. Make it "first team to 3 captures" wins instead of "best out of 3 full rounds". That way going down 1-0 after your first defensive round doesn't seem like such a death blow to some. Yeah, this runs the risk of making one flag games longer but I kind of think it kills the incentive for first round quitters.
I fucking love that yours and everyone else first instinct was to commit suicide lol
Brav has a GAF account but he's more of a Reddit guy. You're stuck with me and Frank
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Welfare
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There is no good reason for these gametypes being in the game. Shit this game feels so barebones in gametypes because it is barebones. You can't deny that.
Even Halo 4 had more modes than this game at launch.
Halo 5 has
It's inexcusable, and this doesn't include the fact that Halo 4 had Forge and Spartan Ops at launch as well.
Pretty sure GAF scared away Kiki almost immediately.
Warm Machine
Member
It is because they are doing coordinated content drops to maintain interest in the game. If every two weeks something new is added you'll come back week after week. If everything was there day 1 you probably would have steamrolled through all of the content by now.
Pop
Member
Well yes but how in the hell did those not make it in at launch.
Welfare
Member
Game should be interesting to begin with. This is artificial "interest".
"Oh boy, King of the Hill! Good thing I get to play this months after the game launched because if not, I might of already lost interest in it. Not in no way the games fault for not keeping my interest this long, but the fact that too much at launch might've been bad."
LOL totally forgot about that. I'm sure I had some part in that back then.
I think 343i learned their lesson with Halo 4. Offering a ton of content from the get go does not assure that you will keep folks playing for months to come. My guess is that 343i wanted to release content on a consistent basis to keep the community coming back for more. Not a bad strategy as long as the new game modes and content deliver. At this point if nothing else you have people showing up for the weekend playlists. The gameplay is engaging enough on its own to warrant playing.
This is true, and something I'd pretty much agree with on the matchmaking side of things, but that's less of an excuse for not including the stuff for customs.
Welfare
Member
But this would only be a thing for playlists. What about custom games? Extraction didn't even get a playlist in Halo 4, but it was still a gametype in customs.
It's clearly a strategy they've spent a lot of time deciding upon, there's a reason for everything they're doing whether we agree with it of not. I just hope they add more and more stuff that will keep the population going, outside of the obvious like more modes and maps.
- Daily challenges
- Weekly challenges in Arena, Warzone and Campaign.
- Maybe have a tavern brawl like thing for Weekend Playlists where X amount of games guarantees a Silver pack on top of your RP.
- Random mini events you could opt in to that are weird, wacky fiesta custom games that may randomly pop up in matchmaking. Opt in since not everyone would be down for that.
Idk what else, maybe have Frank personally come and shake your hand for playing. That might put me off though personally *Kappa*.
Warm Machine
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It has been interesting. It also forced people to try Warzone as the new substantial tent pole mode in the game.
Also look back at the MCC's online performance. They are likely using these content drops to maintain a far more measured approach to multiplayer connections as opposed to just opening floodgates where far more things could go wrong.
Remember this is new console and a lot of new tech. When sports games hit new gens often times modes get stripped out and re added as the years go by.
In the end it will be better for the long term community and better connections if they don't use shotgun all modes out to the day 1 userbase. Look at how Destiny has maintained their game via content since launch.
Some of this stuff may simply need more time combined with watching how the MP metrics come back to 343. Better to fix something in what seems like one place than across far more modes and have far more people upset.
TheCanisDirus
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No idea. To release later down the line to "keep interest"? It's really, really odd. That's like CoD not launching with Domination and Search and Destroy. But promising that they're working on new multiplayer content/modes. The public would fucking burn buildings if that happened to their precious CoD lol. Us Halo fans are just use to disappointment as of recent years. Which is a shame... because core Halo 5 mechanics and weapon balance etc. is so fucking good.
TangoAlphaLima
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Development time and person-hours are finite. 343 took the calculated risk of dedicating them to polishing the gameplay loop to a brilliant sheen. Trying to get all the old game type standbys in shape for launch would have lead to neglect for something else. I prefer the slow and steady strategy that 343 is using to trying to jam everything in at launch thus short shifting most things. Don't get me wrong. I would love me some 1 flag, BTB at launch, and messing around in Forge. But I prefer a great base and the wonderful people of 343 to have a healthy work/life balance.
Also, don't make the mistake of thinking that because a couple people here mentioned a game type means it's popular with the community at large. We are not a good representative sample. 343 may be holding off on implementing some things because they are not as popular with the community as you may think. Don't forget, while many of us here love CTF, it got trounced in the weekend playlist pole twice in a row.
Also, don't make the mistake of thinking that because a couple people here mentioned a game type means it's popular with the community at large. We are not a good representative sample. 343 may be holding off on implementing some things because they are not as popular with the community as you may think. Don't forget, while many of us here love CTF, it got trounced in the weekend playlist pole twice in a row.
DarthWalden
Banned
Quality over quantity my freind. From playing the game it looks like 343i spent a ton of time making sure that the modes we got were the most balanced, fun and exciting they could be instead of just throwing a bunch of stuff out there with little concern of balance or enjoyment and hoping something sticks like most games seem to do *cough* destiny *cough*.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Honestly, I'd imagine that moving stuff over to the Halo 5 sandbox takes some work. Even something simple like KOTH or Juggernaut would require some fine-tuning, at least.
Just... I hope we get some news soon. Tashi, pls. At least a "we're working on it."
Warm Machine
Member
Considering the IAP money that Warzone seems to have made (which is funnelling money toward more game content and prizes) it was a good strategy. Hopefully before Christmas that new Warzone map comes out to get the people who got the game as a present playing with a full Warzone community again.
Samurai G0SU
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AcePartyN7
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Played a bit some BTB last evening with friends and the fact that we play with a BR at start is really nice, finally! but the maps are so ugly honestly after to play it's good we enjoyed enough but I still prefer play BTB on MCC for now, better maps, more gametypes etc. But H5 is a bit better
This so much this, I would also like to see weekly challenges too. If they would add the above I would be in heaven.
edit. Oops second bullet point was weekly.
Diablohead
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The two things I hate about the current forge are:
-The seams where objects go into the ground is completely unnatural, if only there was some tech to auto place grass tuffs and smaller rubble where the rocks merge into the dirt.
-The dirt and grass being completely flat with a basic bump map, no 3D grass anywhere to be seen. maybe some small dirty holes would help give the ground some life.
When I said I wanted the pro pipe to return I never wanted it like this
-The seams where objects go into the ground is completely unnatural, if only there was some tech to auto place grass tuffs and smaller rubble where the rocks merge into the dirt.
-The dirt and grass being completely flat with a basic bump map, no 3D grass anywhere to be seen. maybe some small dirty holes would help give the ground some life.
When I said I wanted the pro pipe to return I never wanted it like this
This is why ranks is attached to the team play, instead of individual stats.
We at a stalemate. I have the flag captured, 1 minute left. My teammate betrays me to take the flag, he ends up getting ambushed by two Spartans, because I dropped the flag when I died and they located him. They then got their flag to home base, they already had our flag.
I prefer it to be attached to the team play, to prevent this type of thing. We still get greedy play, but it will be much worse I feel if everyone got ranked individually.
We at a stalemate. I have the flag captured, 1 minute left. My teammate betrays me to take the flag, he ends up getting ambushed by two Spartans, because I dropped the flag when I died and they located him. They then got their flag to home base, they already had our flag.
I prefer it to be attached to the team play, to prevent this type of thing. We still get greedy play, but it will be much worse I feel if everyone got ranked individually.
Diablohead
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Team killing for the flag is still a thing? I remember people would fuck me over all the time in halo 2 and 3 doing that.. was it an achivement thing or just assholes?
TheCanisDirus
Member
Yup. Should have spend the time and resources on fleshing out actual BTB maps and the usual game modes etc.
I don't understand the randoms in BTB purposefully killing teammates. In 3 of my 10 games last night I had idiots on my team killing me multiple times. Not on accident, full on BR to the head multiple times. Its the first time I had to send negative feedback on players since the One was released.
formasymphonic
Member
Y'know, people will probably ridicule me for this but I kind of miss Dominion. It would be nice to have had some more interactivity (automated weapons, manned turrets etc) for the bases in Warzone. Would make sense considering the initial capture points for the teams are called armoires. Also maybe owning one could have had addition weapons or something for your home base, I dunno.
Sadly, welcome to the world of griefing assholes and why friendly fire should probably be off all the time
Sadly, welcome to the world of griefing assholes and why friendly fire should probably be off all the time
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Stationary rocket turrets? Because multiple lasers, tanks, prom turrets, and snipers weren't enough of a bag of poop.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Dominion was a cool idea with a terrible execution. Automated weapons were too weak to be a factor, and turrets were (are) basically just suicide booths. I'd love to see something like it come back at some point, though.
Samurai G0SU
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I bet warzone took a lot of man power and hours to create than they probably thought. Espcially using the Azure tech and ensuring 24 players had seamless gameplay across the huge maps.
Anyway, im so very happy with Halo 5 MP. I LOVE playing it every day. Even if its for only one or two games. I get extreme satisfaction from it. Even if i lose a game, i still enjoyed it. Sure, sometimes i get frusterated but it passes quickly when i hear the announcer tell me 'perrrrfect'.
I'm usually just a slayer type of guy, but after doing my 10 matches in Team Arena, i like all of the objectives more. Because i get to kill more than 25 times a match maybe? >=D....
muahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not by any means pro level, but love the depth you have when approaching, engaging, flanking, and reversing in each encounter! Unless they have a rocket, and already in mid air....above you... .... =/ haha
Anyway, im so very happy with Halo 5 MP. I LOVE playing it every day. Even if its for only one or two games. I get extreme satisfaction from it. Even if i lose a game, i still enjoyed it. Sure, sometimes i get frusterated but it passes quickly when i hear the announcer tell me 'perrrrfect'.
I'm usually just a slayer type of guy, but after doing my 10 matches in Team Arena, i like all of the objectives more. Because i get to kill more than 25 times a match maybe? >=D....
muahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not by any means pro level, but love the depth you have when approaching, engaging, flanking, and reversing in each encounter! Unless they have a rocket, and already in mid air....above you... .... =/ haha
Easy Breezy
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Level 64 and I finally unlocked the DMR!
can you imagine the beatdown you'd get on the receiving end of players who picked up a br/dmr on these maps while others spawn with AR/pistol? br starts is a must on large, open maps.
rakkadakka
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They really should offer daily challenges or bounties.
They have the perfect system for it with Req points and it could ad some variety to play.
They have the perfect system for it with Req points and it could ad some variety to play.
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