Samurai G0SU
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HAIL HYDRA!
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Halo 5: Guardians |OT4| You picked a helluva week to join up
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VincentMatts
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what does that have to do with anything
Rand0m TAG
Member
because if he's higher rank than you, than you gotta get good noob
if lower, than you are too competitive and dont know how to play for fun
ZeezbruhTV
Member
If your playing platinums they wont know the game well enough to abuse these things. So you wont notice as much.
I'm not saying the game is broken, fixes are EASY
only 2 SMG or 2 SR's on maps, not 4. Change every tier 1 weapon to respawn 30-45 seconds from 20. Eliminate tier 2, there still power weapons what is the point of having them on the map just without a weapon pad?? You're telling me the Hydra isnt a real power weapon after the buff made it ridiculous? Now we have shotguns and hydras ontop of all the other 2-3 tier 3 weapons/1-2 powerups on the maps.
You cant fix map design, wait for Halo 6 for that. Also honestly the maps wouldn't be too bad if you make the changes above.
343 going all e-sports!! and having the gameplay the way it is just floors me.
Oh my fucking god 343 whose bright idea was it to give people infinite grenades on a mongoose? Just playing warzone assault and the other defending team was constantly spawning in them and throwing grenades. Couldn't even get in to take out the core because they had both entrances covered.
The Sum of Zero
Member
Yeah, that's BS.
User 73706
Banned
#JustGungooseThings
You even get the Pineapple Express medal for getting kills using infinades!
YourExWife
Member
35 gold packs. 1 Dying Star, 1 phaeton helios. So. Many. Rocket. Hogs. 343 y u do dis?
Also, don't get to play much Arena nowadays, but I got to agree with Zeez on a few points. The OP autos problem is highly prevalent on basically every FFA map at high levels too. There's barely any actual fights, just people walking/hiding around with SR and getting first shots.
Also, don't get to play much Arena nowadays, but I got to agree with Zeez on a few points. The OP autos problem is highly prevalent on basically every FFA map at high levels too. There's barely any actual fights, just people walking/hiding around with SR and getting first shots.
Not sure where those stats are from, but SR v AR is unbalanced. Should be mitigated by having fewer SR on maps, and placing them in more exposed locations. And changing the stupidly short spawn times.
Pistol BR ratio is already mitigated by the pistols ROF and and the lack of BRs on maps. BRs red reticle range is silly though, IMO.
The whole point of having weapons on map is that they provide some sort of upgrade. That said none of them are "challenge enemies at will cards". Good positioning, mobility, accuracy, and effective use of grenades and melee can even any odds. That's what's great about the franchise, and I feel it's more true now than it has been in recent entries.
Edit: unless we're talking about FFA. That gametype deserves different weapon placements
Prinz Eugn
Member
Well, to make the Mongoose less pointless for passengers in Warzone, but yeah it's pretty silly in certain situations.
Samurai G0SU
Member
all autos shoukd be removed from halo mp!!!
Precision battles only!!!!!
Hail hydra!
Precision battles only!!!!!
Hail hydra!
Scully Scully Scoo
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gaf is a strange place. not seeing what the fuss is about regarding br in btb or motion tracker. if things come down to a vote guaranteed both of these stay in.
im finding the multiplayer to be fun but i wont be playing much once gears4/titanfall 2 hits. its not as addictive as h2/3 for some reason even though its probably at least just as good. the maps are not as great and i think its down to sprint and verticality.
im finding the multiplayer to be fun but i wont be playing much once gears4/titanfall 2 hits. its not as addictive as h2/3 for some reason even though its probably at least just as good. the maps are not as great and i think its down to sprint and verticality.
Zoso Achilles
Member
Man, if you call all of those rocket hogs in in sure we can average like, 1 kill per use! Wow!
BTB would be much better with AR pistol starts though.
Scully Scully Scoo
Member
why? Everyone would just run 5 feet to the closest br at the start of match anyway just like all other halo games. Magnum has improved since i played the beta but at mid/long range i still prefer br and this is the rante lots of engagements happen in btb
FUNKNOWN iXi
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I say they bring back the Falcon and Chopper along with variants for each, and leave the Rocket Hog behind.
Zoso Achilles
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Because the pistol is actually serviceable as a starting weapon, it's a good utility weapon. There would be much more map movement without having to be worried about getting immediately pinged by anyone the sees you from long range. Moving to pick up BR's and DMR's, etc. is fine.
Samurai G0SU
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Pistol wrecks mate. My evidence? Pro playerssssss.ssssssss. (arena)
Btb can kiss ass.
Forerunner
Member
It would help with map flow and also make vehicles useful. Just watch this video if you want a detailed answer on why it should be pistol starts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3EjjDo4VT8
YourExWife
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They occur in that range *because* everyone has a BR. There are many times where pushing forward on the map against even a mediocre team is a struggle because BRs are pinging you the entire way. The maps currently in the rotation were *designed by the forgers* to work with AR/magnum starts. They were even tested under those settings before being submitted and they've been begging 343 to change the settings for months.
You should be able to defend yourself off of spawn. That's why previous games everyone ran for the closest BR (aka Bungie are fucking idiots regarding starting weapons). But BRs aren't necessary to achieve this goal in H5. Currently there are only a couple long-range weapons at each base, but they are rarely used because everyone spawns with BRs. They are going to waste with 343's current BTB gametype. This isn't even touching the issue of vehicles being even more fragile because of ubiquitous BRs.
Examples of maps that would have more flow and less stand-offs if we had AR/pistol starts:
Viking, Deadlock, Basin, Scavenger, Altar...
AKA most btb maps.
Prinz Eugn
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The BR has such a long effective range that it makes moving around in the open on most BTB maps suicidal, so that you spend way too much time pinging and going to cover rather than in decisive or interesting battles.
CreateNowSleepLater
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The one thing that makes no sense to me is how they encourage crouching. It makes zero sense in a sandbox built for movement. I don't know how many times I'm in a 1v1 and the other player cops out and goes crouch with an auto. There should not be an advantage, radar, ads or otherwise.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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There's a poll on Reddit regarding BTB Pistol starts. Here are the results so far:
I want to jump in and out of action without having people avoid or chase little red dots. Whoever says radar doesn't change gameplay is an ignorant baboon.. ya got that G0SU?? B A B O O N
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Exactly. Couple that with the crazy strong autos/CQC weapons (which I don't necessarily have a problem with, just the abundance) and you'll see why some are easily frustrated with H5's multiplayer, like Zeez.
I want to jump in and out of action without having people avoid or chase little red dots. Whoever says radar doesn't change gameplay is an ignorant baboon.. ya got that G0SU?? B A B O O N
There's no reason to nerf the RRR of the BR when there's a potentially better solution to try out first.
There's a poll on Reddit regarding BTB Pistol starts. Here are the results so far:
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Exactly. Couple that with the crazy strong autos/CQC weapons (which I don't necessarily have a problem with, just the abundance) and you'll see why some are easily frustrated with H5's multiplayer, like Zeez.
I want to jump in and out of action without having people avoid or chase little red dots. Whoever says radar doesn't change gameplay is an ignorant baboon.. ya got that G0SU?? B A B O O N
There's no reason to nerf the RRR of the BR when there's a potentially better solution to try out first.
I don't think that solution is better. Because I think the BR is slightly out of balance in 4v4 Arena as a pick up. I think fixing RRR would immediately solve both problems...
But, if that's not an option, I'd be happy with pistol starts also
Samurai G0SU
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Come on guyzzzz
Hail Hydra!!
Hydra op now. Gg
Hey funk!!!
Screww youuuuuuu!!!!
1V1 me with radar!! Hah!!
Hail Hydra!!
Hydra op now. Gg
Hey funk!!!
Screww youuuuuuu!!!!
1V1 me with radar!! Hah!!
YourExWife
Member
Well, one requires changing a gametype option. The other requires a title update, which, if the last few are anything to go by, would just break the game and make it crash even more.
#TheyWereDelayedSoTheyCouldPassCert
#HeyItCompilesThatsGoodEnough
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Is it, though? Where are people complaining about the BR in 4v4's?
Thanks!
I spent 6 hours trying to get stuff like Dread or Greed but I tried this for the heck of it and boom. Just hope I don't get bombarded with hack threats lol
Samurai G0SU
Member
6 hours?? Holy moly batman.
dude no that's just not true every weapon including your starting ones have amazing utility. this game almost perfectly balanced.
User 73706
Banned
people wanting magnum and AR over BR AR
what a time to be alive
what a time to be alive
Fata1moose
Banned
Was thinking about changing my GT to Fabled Moose, but I don't know if I'll do it. Moose carried over to 360 and One.
How about Moosetranaut?
YourExWife
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FATstromoose
Samurai G0SU
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Perfert
Yeah probably would. I wish they would have gone with the RRR of the previous games to begin with.
Minor complaint though, because I'm generally pleased with the balancing.
Plenty of people have played BTB with pistol starts, so I'm sure it would be fine
Where aren't people complaining about something?
You see it frequently TB, Waypoint, Reddit etc. there are quite a few people who feel like the AR and Pistol are generally inadequate against the weapons on map. Hell,someone just said as much here few pages back.
Edit: actually a complaint is on this page on this page!
I think the fixes are simple, and I don't think the problem is dramatic. I just think things could be a little better.
Personally, we have the best starting weapon balance ever. But I think it would've be closer to perfect if the BR had a shorter RRR and the other autos were less prevalent.
YourExWife
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Forerunner
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Guess Ive been winning too much. We cant be having that, so here are nine losses in a row. I had a teammate go 4-17, however at least he got some kills. My next game I had a SILVER FIVE on my team (when everyone else was Diamond or Onyx) go 0-14.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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So after messing around with the aiming settings more, it feels better when the horizontal axis is higher than the vertical axis. Having both at 10 turned out to be too crazy and didn't feel equal the more I played with it, although better than what it was before the update.
Currently at 10 horizontal and 7 vertical - it feels better this way. I read up on those tests comparing H5's aiming to CE and the results were interesting. The vertical axis is much faster than horizontal in H5, even when the values are equal. It's all confusing, I'm sure, but I think if you're still having issues with the aiming, try making the horizontal axis several values higher than the vertical.
Currently at 10 horizontal and 7 vertical - it feels better this way. I read up on those tests comparing H5's aiming to CE and the results were interesting. The vertical axis is much faster than horizontal in H5, even when the values are equal. It's all confusing, I'm sure, but I think if you're still having issues with the aiming, try making the horizontal axis several values higher than the vertical.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Guess Ive been winning too much. We cant be having that, so here are nine losses in a row. I had a teammate go 4-17, however at least he got some kills. My next game I had a SILVER FIVE on my team (when everyone else was Diamond or Onyx) go 0-14.
Exactly why I feel Onyx+ levels should be team wins and everything else just individual performance.
Samurai G0SU
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My aim is fucked
Deputy Moonman
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I went back to what I had before the update and im slowly getting back to where I was with my accuracy.
Samurai G0SU
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Its too much for me now. Lol i went back to
