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Halo 5: Guardians |OT4| You picked a helluva week to join up

Madness

Member
Chief or bust. No one wants to play as Buck or Fred or Tanaka when they can play as Chief for the same reason people will choose to play as Sonic over Tails and Knuckles.

I get 343 wants to move on in the universe but they need to get their heads right. Chief sells. His story sells and will always sell. Gears 4 tried to circumvent this somewhar by introducing Marcus Fenix son as lead character so you still have the attachment.

Halo games can and have utilized other characters but like in Halo 2, Arbiter actually added to the story and gave the gameplay as twist. We got to see a side of the Covenant we never would have as Chief and we got to use weapons and tactics Chief couldn't like a sword and camo. And even then, the split was 50/50. What did Osiris team add here? They didn't explain anything. They were just the equivalent of the the Not Chief team. They did a piss poor job of explaining any of the new characters as well. Hell we learned more about them from Cortana's taunts at the end.

And fans and critics agreed. For every one person who liked the focus off Chief again you will easily find 10 who hated how limited his play time was.
 
Does it affect everyone you've talked to in Australia?

There must be some similarity which connects the people with issues considering the consistency and lack of major issues for other people.

Yes there is, Azure regional servers.

Personally I'm guessing that they now have very limited server resources in non-USA regions so at peak or spike times things just fall apart to service the local game requests. Also it's likely compounded by dodgy coding.

You haven't read my Waypoint thread OP have you? You'll see all the tech of why the point of failure is either 343 code or Azure servers and nothing from the gamers end at all. Look above at my edited post and view the Waypoint forums + r/Halo and you'll see hundreds reporting this over the last 8 weeks, especially since Memories of Reach dropped. Now factor what they always tell us that forums are less then 5-10% of the overall gamers playing Halo and you're in the 1,000s or 10,000s having these issues.

It's fucked, MS even replied to KotakuAU after the article about me was written confirming their usual PR garbage "We're aware of the issues and are working on it". Not fucking good enough.

Also explain this to me, what I did as a test directly after repeat issues in H5 last night and all worked flawlessly with great connections.

1. Destiny tower and playing a daily heroic mission, fast match, good quality connection and no issues.
2. Netflix streaming of Arrested Development, fast start, full HD and no frames skipped or buffering at all.
3. Buying Doom and play it with messages connecting to ID servers just fine. Zero issues at all.
4. Edge browsing on X1 to Halo Waypoint, logged in and browsed a few pages just fine.
5. YouTube music video, again full HD and high bitrate as well as solid framerate at 60fps.
6. Playing Killer Instinct for 4 exhibition matches, fast matches and solid connection with near zero latency detected.
7. Playing Rayman Legends and connecting to Ubisoft servers just fine for weekly challenges.
*Bonus: The same regular Halo friends and I played Overwatch beta flawlessly with great connections and parties for 4 days straight.

For the record my cable connection last night was 83Mb down 2.33Mb up and 16ms response on speedtest.net. My exchange was upgraded on the 17th after I complained to both ISPs I use, they both sent techs to the exchange and did maintenance work for me. Imagine that ISPs that give actual support. They confirm nothing on our end and I've had a nice little upgrade to both my ISP connections.
 

jem0208

Member
Yes there is, Azure regional servers.

Personally I'm guessing that they now have very limited server resources in non-USA regions so at peak or spike times things just fall apart to service the local game requests. Also it's likely compounded by dodgy coding.

You haven't read my Waypoint thread OP have you? You'll see all the tech of why the point of failure is either 343 code or Azure servers and nothing from the gamers end at all. Look above at my edited post and view the Waypoint forums + r/Halo and you'll see hundreds reporting this over the last 8 weeks, especially since Memories of Reach dropped. Now factor what they always tell us that forums are less then 5-10% of the overall gamers playing Halo and you're in the 1,000s or 10,000s having these issues.

It's fucked, MS even replied to KotakuAU after the article about me was written confirming their usual PR garbage "We're aware of the issues and are working on it". Not fucking good enough.

Also explain this to me, what I did as a test directly after repeat issues in H5 last night and all worked flawlessly with great connections.

1. Destiny tower and playing a daily heroic mission, fast match, good quality connection and no issues.
2. Netflix streaming of Arrested Development, fast start, full HD and no frames skipped or buffering at all.
3. Buying Doom and play it with messages connecting to ID servers just fine. Zero issues at all.
4. Edge browsing on X1 to Halo Waypoint, logged in and browsed a few pages just fine.
5. YouTube music video, again full HD and high bitrate as well as solid framerate at 60fps.
6. Playing Killer Instinct for 4 exhibition matches, fast matches and solid connection with near zero latency detected.
7. Playing Rayman Legends and connecting to Ubisoft servers just fine for weekly challenges.
*Bonus: The same regular Halo friends and I played Overwatch beta flawlessly with great connections and parties for 4 days straight.

For the record my cable connection last night was 83Mb down 2.33Mb up and 16ms response on speedtest.net. My exchange was upgraded on the 17th after I complained to both ISPs I use, they both sent techs to the exchange and did maintenance work for me. Imagine that ISPs that give actual support. They confirm nothing on our end and I've had a nice little upgrade to both my ISP connections.

I'm not saying it's your fault at all. See my edit to the post.

I was just trying to figure out what the root cause could be. I can't imagine 343 would specialise their coding for each region. So considering other regions for the most part are fine I'm guessing the main cause is, as you said, limited server resources.
 
For those of you who have an Elite, don't you have problems with the paddles? Position and sensitivity?
Do you think they will announce a revision at E3?
I'm thinking of buying one.

Sorry for the Off Topic
 

Gwyn

Member
For those of you who have an Elite, don't you have problems with the paddles? Position and sensitivity?
Do you think they will announce a revision at E3?
I'm thinking of buying one.

Sorry for the Off Topic

No problems here.

The only thing that bothers me is that i can't click the 2 bottom long paddles so i just use 2. I wish they added 4 small ones maybe it would be easier to click or it just a matter of getting used to / muscle memory.
My friend can use all 4 though so it depends.

I think you should wait for E3 they will probably reveal something new maybe a white elite.
 

op_ivy

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For those of you who have an Elite, don't you have problems with the paddles? Position and sensitivity?
Do you think they will announce a revision at E3?
I'm thinking of buying one.

Sorry for the Off Topic

hold off till e3 just in case, but its i love it. takes some getting used to though. the long stick works BEAUTIFULLY in racing games too
 
For those of you who have an Elite, don't you have problems with the paddles? Position and sensitivity?
Do you think they will announce a revision at E3?
I'm thinking of buying one.

Sorry for the Off Topic

No problems with mine. But i heard they use the same internal hardware like the rest. Nothing upgraded inside.
So some have come across faulty bumbers, triggers and drift. Knock on wood mine is 100% still.
 

TCKaos

Member
I think I did alright. First game of the day after a long day at work. Game says "FUCK YOU YOU DON'T GET TO WARM UP HERE PLAY KAMPY AND CO!"

My MMR is crazy high, but the dumbass game keeps putting me in diamond (or lower) after placements where I play and do well (a couple wins even) against only onyx and champs. Been like this every month since they did the rank reshuffling bullshit.

I got nothing but wins with K/Ds in the +10 neighborhood for 9 straight games of swat against plats, diamonds and onyxes and then in final game I broken even with 11-11 on the losing team.

Placed Gold 3.

wat
 

Madness

Member
Did they remove the most played list from the Xbox One games store? Geez. Never seen a company so insecure. Not only have they stopped giving live activity updates, but sales figures have stopped in favor of shit like 3 million man hours were spent on xbox live etc. Their IP's like Halo cut out population playlists and now we can't even see most played. I see new releases, best rated etc. Is it just me?
 
Did they remove the most played list from the Xbox One games store? Geez. Never seen a company so insecure. Not only have they stopped giving live activity updates, but sales figures have stopped in favor of shit like 3 million man hours were spent on xbox live etc. Their IP's like Halo cut out population playlists and now we can't even see most played. I see new releases, best rated etc. Is it just me?

They removed that very silienty awhile ago. Lol kind of hilariulous they find it offensive.

Dont be like hooli:p
 

jem0208

Member
Did they remove the most played list from the Xbox One games store? Geez. Never seen a company so insecure. Not only have they stopped giving live activity updates, but sales figures have stopped in favor of shit like 3 million man hours were spent on xbox live etc. Their IP's like Halo cut out population playlists and now we can't even see most played. I see new releases, best rated etc. Is it just me?
https://store.xbox.com/en-GB/Xbox-One?SortBy=MostPopular
 

Madness

Member
They removed that very silienty awhile ago. Lol kind of hilariulous they find it offensive.

Dont be like hooli:p

Apt reference.


I am assuming this is something they just forgot about with the web site. Makes no sense they would specifically remove most played from their console OS and storefront. Also, is that even current because I bet Overwatch easily #1 or at least top 5 based on how many playing it no?
 

singhr1

Member
Apt reference.



I am assuming this is something they just forgot about with the web site. Makes no sense they would specifically remove most played from their console OS and storefront. Also, is that even current because I bet Overwatch easily #1 or at least top 5 based on how many playing it no?

Na, it's still up on the Xbox App too.

I wouldn't look at it as if you're going to get some actual information outside of "yeah these are popular games these days". Nothing like what Major Nelson provided in the early 360 era
 

Madness

Member
Na, it's still up on the Xbox App too.

I wouldn't look at it as if you're going to get some actual information outside of "yeah these are popular games these days". Nothing like what Major Nelson provided in the early 360 era

Well they obviously removed it from the Xbox One itself. Cannot find most played anywhere on the console. Nothing else removed except that.
 

singhr1

Member
Yeah, people on Reddit found out about it a few weeks ago IIRC. Its weird. Whether its an anomaly on the console or they just forgot to take it out of the website/app is beyond me, especially now that it's been weeks. That information has still been updating in the time since so....?
 

jem0208

Member
Aren't those just the number of ratings submitted for the popularity filter? It's not how many are playing the game.
I don't think so, see how Rocket League has 40000 ratings with an average of 4.5 stars but it's still lower than most.

Also it's too variable to be ratings.
 

Tawpgun

Member
since we're back on the topic of H5's advertising, i love how many people go "I WAS EXPECTING CHIEF VS LOCKE SPACE NOIR POLITICAL THRILLER THANKS 343BAMA" only to completely ignore, like, literally every other halo ad campaign ever
I think halo 5 did it worse.

In halo 2 ad campaign it was very earth centric. And aside from the revamped new Mombasa mission we got what that ad campaign promised.

In halo 3, sure the diorama never happened but that one only one commercial. The wraith bubble shield was a little more generic so I let it slide.

In halo 4, we got what we were advertised. I was only disappointed we weren't alone on requiem for longer than half a mission.

Part of the problem is the hunt the truth campaign they created was actually REALLY GOOD. The best piece of halo narrative in YEARS. I don't think anyone was expecting chief to be the bad guy all along, but I was interested in knowing what was REALLY going on. I thought it would be a big gray area, a mystery Osiris would have to unravel. I thought we would be led on a journey of questioning what the chief was doing. I thought we'd get to meet the hunt the truth characters. None of that really made it in.
 
I think halo 5 did it worse.

In halo 2 ad campaign it was very earth centric. And aside from the revamped new Mombasa mission we got what that ad campaign promised.

In halo 3, sure the diorama never happened but that one only one commercial. The wraith bubble shield was a little more generic so I let it slide.

In halo 4, we got what we were advertised. I was only disappointed we weren't alone on requiem for longer than half a mission.

Part of the problem is the hunt the truth campaign they created was actually REALLY GOOD. The best piece of halo narrative in YEARS. I don't think anyone was expecting chief to be the bad guy all along, but I was interested in knowing what was REALLY going on. I thought it would be a big gray area, a mystery Osiris would have to unravel. I thought we would be led on a journey of questioning what the chief was doing. I thought we'd get to meet the hunt the truth characters. None of that really made it in.

I remember a ton of Halo 2 complaints that we didn't spend enough time on Earth in addition to the Arbiter salt.
 

Tawpgun

Member
Arbiter complaints were dumb, but at least we GOT to spend time on earth.

They didn't bother putting in any of the chief is a traitor??????? Stuff nor any HtT characters. BB is an AI, at least he could have made an appearance.

Rip poncho chief too but I'll let that one slide since that is something halo has done before i.e. the cg/live action stuff
 
Arbiter complaints were dumb, but at least we GOT to spend time on earth.

They didn't bother putting in any of the chief is a traitor??????? Stuff nor any HtT characters. BB is an AI, at least he could have made an appearance.

I think part of the problem is that it's basically the Halo 3 ad campaign effect but on a way larger scale: the companies that were tasked with making Hunt the Truth, etc etc. may have been working in conjunction with 343 (ensuring shit like the Guardians actually existing in the promotional material), but at the same time they have to be self-contained ads without necessarily shaping the content of the game itself, considering they're just meant to be promotional material. Things like the Halo 3 diorama were mostly inoffensive because it was basically conveying an idea, but now what constitutes an advertisement is starting to get expanded a bit.
 

Nutter

Member
Did they remove the most played list from the Xbox One games store? Geez. Never seen a company so insecure. Not only have they stopped giving live activity updates, but sales figures have stopped in favor of shit like 3 million man hours were spent on xbox live etc. Their IP's like Halo cut out population playlists and now we can't even see most played. I see new releases, best rated etc. Is it just me?
Please show me where Sony gives you player counts for their top games.
 
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Karl2177

Member
So because Sony doesn't do something that means MS shouldn't either or that players shouldn't notice when they stop doing something that they were already doing.

Are you sure you don't want to change your name to TjNuthuggerB because you seem to get personally offended when someone brings up any slight against MS or 343.

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mo60

Member
The list on the xbox app is nowhere near accurate either. It's pretty much the exact same list as the xbox.com store list. You can barely get any info from any of these lists anyway.
 

SCHUEY F1

Unconfirmed Member
I was getting wasted on Torque in SWAT and we were down 48-45 so I hid and our team was able to come back, lol. Up to Plat 4 so things are getting difficult foe me.
 
I was getting wasted on Torque in SWAT and we were down 48-45 so I hid and our team was able to come back, lol. Up to Plat 4 so things are getting difficult foe me.

Some games it doesn't matter what you do, you just get shit on. Those games I try to sit back more and not challenge as much.
 
because i like to live life on the edge: i'll keep my megaposts modular and in links this time, but spoiler alert: i'm doing actual programmy shit for muh video gaem now, and i'm doing some design docs along with it to help keep my place and my ducks in a row and whatnot.

If anyone would like to provide feedback on a gametype concept I have in mind, which is essentially a hybrid between CTF and Kill Confirmed, I would appreciate it.
 
They removed that very silienty awhile ago. Lol kind of hilariulous they find it offensive.

Dont be like hooli:p

Mike Ybarra said back when it happened on Twitter that it was prep for new Store features being added with the Redstone update. Obviously not much, but he did acknowledge it.
 

Ramirez

Member
So because Sony doesn't do something that means MS shouldn't either or that players shouldn't notice when they stop doing something that they were already doing.

Are you sure you don't want to change your name to TjNuthuggerB because you seem to get personally offended when someone brings up any slight against MS or 343.

Oh, madness.
 
Got banned during a Team Arena match because I left a game of Infection prior due to it taking too long to wrap up. Can someone please make Infection matches only 3 rounds and also remove or shrink those huge maps like Power Instillation 484?
 
So because Sony doesn't do something that means MS shouldn't either or that players shouldn't notice when they stop doing something that they were already doing.

Are you sure you don't want to change your name to TjNuthuggerB because you seem to get personally offended when someone brings up any slight against MS or 343.

inb4 apology post
 
Got banned during a Team Arena match because I left a game of Infection prior due to it taking too long to wrap up. Can someone please make Infection matches only 3 rounds and also remove or shrink those huge maps like Power Instillation 484?

"I quit an infection game because I died too quick"
 

EYEL1NER

Member
For once I was actually having a good Warzone match, on Darkstar. Doing pretty well, not too many deaths, scoring some kills on a Ghost. Then BOOM! Dropped from match: "Request to join has timed out." Damn it! I immediately went back into the WZ lobby and then backed out because I thought 'there's no way the next match will go anything like that last one, you'll get stomped.' Getting pretty late anyhow. I may hop on early tomorrow and do my Breakout placement matches during the day, the month is almost up and I haven't gotten those knocked out yet.
 
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