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Halo 5: Guardians |OT5| Is HaloGAF irrelevant now?
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Fata1moose
Banned
They must like camping lifts.
Halo 3 had a lot of bad maps, Snowbound, Orbital, Epitaph, Construct, default Foundry and Isolation were all pretty bad.
And it'd only be worse now with Reach and on's better motion tracker, but even without it, it's just not that fun. Grav lifts are only slightly better than teleporters.
Halo 5’s map selection gets a lot of undue shit imo. It may not have the classics compared to other games in the series (although personally I think nostalgia has a pretty big impact on that) but besides the DLC maps it has a consistent quality the others lack.
Almost every arena map the game launched with is decent for at least a couple of the game modes. You can’t say that about most Halos.
I'd say the only really bad maps 5 launched with is Orion and maybe Pegasus. Empire isn't great but it's not bad either. Besides that they're all either solid or great.
I do understand the complaints about the art style though, even though I don’t particularly care about that in multiplayer.
I honestly can't remember if I ever officially had the "Dream Crusher" username or not, but this has been the only GAF account I've used in a long, long time. I may have changed it at some point but I seriously can't recall. #seniormoment
Demoncarnotaur
Member
I got the same email.. how do you run out of unlimited XBL micro-transaction codes, lol
Blasphemy.
It's a wee bit flawed, but I enjoy it. Tweak some of the camping spots, and it would be really fun in Halo 5's sandbox.
SmartWaffles
Member
Missed out on the gold pack deal (difficult to get it anyway as I need to ask help for the phone verification) so if any of you cool people has any spare left (when you eventually get them of course lol) I would be happy to take those off you for a reasonable price.
Kibbles
Member
I don't see them anywhere :S
Edit: lame this would've got me to jump back on. Back to Battlefield .
User 73706
Banned
if people on here were salty about getting groundpounded in lifts on Coliseum, just imagine the tears on Construct. Or Guardian.
Papasmurf531
Member
Is it a low-key code begging thread now???
Because I will also gladly take some off people's hands...
ZeezbruhTV
Member
Could not disagree more, only "solid" maps are Truth, Coli, Eden. Everything else ranges from "meh" to "fire the designer".
I liked Orbital, but a lot of people had issue with it because it was hard to mentally map out two overlaid horseshoes in your mind for position awareness. It took me like a month to naturally know where i was on the map at all times.
I'd agree with this. I'd probably add Fathom in there, but I can see why some people aren't a fan.
Orbital played decently for one sided objectives. Sadly the only time that ever showed up in matchmaking was the 2 months that the Mythic grab bag list was up.
curiouscharles
Member
i love it, but mostly for strongholds.
still love the shit out of it though.
[also rig, which is another map people seem to hate, but again i mostly like it for SH]
VincentMatts
Member
And a lot of that to me is due to the constant repeating of the aesthetics. But yeah, really lacking in good classic maps. This game has none in arena. (not counting the Bungie remakes) . I do like that Heaven one. its the only one from them that i like.
That new elite planet one in warzone i actually really really like. If they could make more maps like that (alien looking but still fun) id be a lot happier.
I find that those are also the maps that have more open sightlines and larger middle hub areas that allow for verticality, larger grenade arcs, a less claustrophobic feeling. Compare Truth with Regret. It is the same reason Plaza plays and works well compared to Overrowth.
A lot of Halo 5 maps are very corridor focused, some areas remind me of the elevator room of swordbase, just a nade spam and multiple shots areas.
Fata1moose
Banned
I feel 5 has a pretty comparable selection of good 4v4 maps compared to entries past. Looking at the maps that I really enjoyed for 4v4:
Halo CE:
Prisoner
Damnation
Chill Out
Hang 'Em High
Battle Creek
Halo 2:
Lockout
Midship
Ascension
Zanzibar
Beaver Creek
Sanctuary
Halo 3:
The Pit
Heretic
Blackout
Citadel
Narrows
Cold Storage
Halo Reach:
Countdown
Halo 4:
Haven
Monolith
Skyline
Pitfall
Halo 5:
Truth
Eden
Coliseum
Fathom
Mercy
Stasis
Plaza
Halo 5 actually has more maps I enjoy overall. There are certainly some really bad lows (Overgrowth, Riptide and Molten), but overall I like it more.
Fata1moose
Banned
Samurai G0SU
Member
YourExWife
Member
I think you meant "without radar and with a different weapon set on map and starting weapons and with altered movement" then its somewhat decent.
I do find it odd that people praise Countdown (in any form) and proceed to complain about H5 having corridor maps.
Lol, that was great. The Chief can do anything.
Fata1moose
Banned
So were there no other Rat Race remakes?
curiouscharles
Member
yeah, people love to hate on H5 maps, but as far as i'm concerned, i've never been so addicted to Halo's 4v4 MP gameplay before.
sure, a LOT of that has to do with the new mechanics, but i just feel like the team arena playlist is really tightly designed [map-wise].
honestly no complaints here, lots of classic material for me.
slayer on the other hand...
i've just started exploring the slayer playlist, and there's a few stinkers in there.
sure, a LOT of that has to do with the new mechanics, but i just feel like the team arena playlist is really tightly designed [map-wise].
honestly no complaints here, lots of classic material for me.
slayer on the other hand...
i've just started exploring the slayer playlist, and there's a few stinkers in there.
Fata1moose
Banned
For an anniversary playlist, I would have preferred map remakes with Halo 5's mechanics in mind, plus vanilla pistol starts. Since it's the 15th anniversary of Halo in general, it would have been nice to have remakes from all games instead of just Halo CE. I know a lot of other people wanted no spartan abilities, etc, but go play MCC if you want that.
Hang 'Em High in the Throwback Playlist is just the perfect example of why I dislike hitscan. That map plays so bad with a Halo CE hitscan Magnum. Pretty much ruins an otherwise great map.
It was only really enjoyable in MLG and when it was KotH. Vanilla version was just pretty bad, but so was everything 4vs4 vanilla Halo 3.
Countdown will always leave a sour taste in my mouth. Vanilla settings with Sprint, Shotgun and Sword is just terrible on every level. MLG CTF was okay on it, I guess. Still a pretty bad Halo map, though.
It was only really enjoyable in MLG and when it was KotH. Vanilla version was just pretty bad, but so was everything 4vs4 vanilla Halo 3.
Countdown will always leave a sour taste in my mouth. Vanilla settings with Sprint, Shotgun and Sword is just terrible on every level. MLG CTF was okay on it, I guess. Still a pretty bad Halo map, though.
Feel the Swift
Member
So if you can rank down from Onyx does that go for all ranks?
EDIT: Yep.
EDIT: Yep.
The Henery
Member
Construct KOTH was the shit, Countdown was dogshit.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I feel like you did get the name changed, yeah.
Neither worked with radar that's for sure.
YourExWife
Member
I sort of agree with this, but in a way it proves my point even more. Not only is it not the standard map, standard weapons, movement, etc, but also only good on one specific gametype in one playlist (which, despite what beyond will claim, the majority of players didn't mess with).
I guess what I'm wondering is how much of the core gameplay and map design and setup has to be altered before we can call it what it is? Nostalgia for a specific playlist, and the later versions of that playlist at that.
Claiming Construct is great is absurd, and claiming MLG KOTH Construct version whatever-point-oh is great is a totally different discussion. MLG is responsible for that map, not the developer. Developer launch maps are historically poop in the last decade.
Agree with all of this.
I'm not sure about Halo CE, but other than that 3rd parties (or Halo community) have like always done a better job at giving us better gametypes and even map presets, than actual developers for competetive Halo.
link1201
Member
Was this an announced change or did it just start to happen?
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Announced a while back, over a month or two ago. They might've made note of it again, but I haven't noticed.
curiouscharles
Member
is this typical of other MP shooters' ranking systems?
literally don't play anything else as religiously so honest question here.
curious what the "status quo" is per se, as i find this very frustrating... at least for Halo.
gamerguy2002
Member
We can't even get any codes to give away! wtf is going on with this?!?!
Nope, just gives you some Pistols to play around with.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Same as you, I don't play many other shooters or games with ranks. I would think so though as it makes sense, but the issue I take with it in H5 is that there's no party matching and quitters are rampant.
Hopefully the Custom Games Browser will help with this in the future, assuming of course Halo 6 has one. I'd like for 2 ranked playlists only (Team Arena, TS), with there only being like 4 others in Arena (Social Team Arena, BTB, Action Sack Casual (fun minigames), Action Sack Hardcore (Snipers, Breakout)). For these unranked playlists, I think it would be beneficial to design them as "quickplay" lobbies that keeps everyone together from game to game, while mixing up the teams unless you're in a party, and allows for Join In Progress.
You take that back!
I stand by it!
SmartWaffles
Member
#hirefunknown
Nollemaster
Member
Rat Race has some of the worst spawns in the series. I still like the map though.
VincentMatts
Member
No gold pack deals?? Come on 343.
They're saving you from yourself.