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Halo 5: Guardians |OT5| Is HaloGAF irrelevant now?

op_ivy

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That was a pretty cool match at vegas. 100- 99, back and forth all the way to the end. First close series of the day. Gg 2 girls 2 idiots, lol
 

Fuchsdh

Member
Thanks to the achievement rarity update to the Dash I can be amazed at how little people unlock achievements in general and play the game to any sort of completion in particular. Only 35% of players finished the campaign (only 65% even started it), and only 2% of players have finished the game Solo Legendary. Only 32% have played three games of Warzone, only 39% have ever opened a gold pack.
 

FyreWulff

Member
Thanks to the achievement rarity update to the Dash I can be amazed at how little people unlock achievements in general and play the game to any sort of completion in particular. Only 35% of players finished the campaign (only 65% even started it), and only 2% of players have finished the game Solo Legendary. Only 32% have played three games of Warzone, only 39% have ever opened a gold pack.

Amusingly enough that's about the historical campaign completion rate for most games, including previous Halo titles
 

Fuchsdh

Member
Amusingly enough that's about the historical campaign completion rate for most games, including previous Halo titles

I guess us completionists live in a more extreme bubble than I thought, haha. For comparison, of the tracked gamers on TrueAchievements 14% have completed the game Lone Wolf. Only 2% have completed the game entirely with all achievements, which makes you realize how few people of the general population must do so.
 
Some stuff is only unlocked through commendations (emblems basically), so don't forget to take that into account.

Yup, most of what you have left is likely locked behind special packs and commendations. Since you got the gold pack refund, you got everything possible to buy with standard packs.

I see, I'll check anyways to see if I'm missing any helmets I thought for sure I was missing some commons, but if I'm truly done with REQ packs then its a relief.

Guess I should be working on some achievements and commendations now.
 

IHaveIce

Banned
What is bad in Halo 5 that other games are doing better.

spectator mode, social playlists, bad theater mode (that was fine 10 years ago), ghost melees, gametype variation, no launch BTB maps and still no dev btb maps, information flow of 343, creating a really good forge mode but having a way too slow community cartographer system right now so good maps aren't getting into the game like they did in H4

Lobbies are visually worse than Reach for example did.

There is nothing in the game that gets people addicted, There should be REQs that are fucking super rare and you don't get them once you have everything is else, they are just RNG tied.

no solo queue list.


Campaign has no Splitscreen. Firefight Warzone is neat, but no real firefight experience.

And I just compared it to older Halo titles feature wise, don't get me started on comparing it to other franchises
 

Detective

Member
Real fucking funny. 2 games in a row against a same party. All my teammates quits. So its 4-5 people against full party farmers. And everyone who joins of course they will quit too.

Its like there is no one else out there.

Matchmaking is just laughable in this game.
 
Really want that update to come out as soon as possible. Hopefully custom game browser will come soon too with a new map or two.

Also at some point need to sit down and rank on some of the playlist. Might do that Thursday or Friday since I don't have work. So if anyone isn't busy doing thanksgiving things or fighting hordes or crazed shoppers we should form a party.
 

Trup1aya

Member
What is bad in Halo 5 that other games are doing better.

My issues w/ h5:

Lack of splitscreen or any sort of offline mp
Terrible story
Lack of arena game types
-where is oddball, koth, vip, race... to name a few
Unreliable servers (disconnects)
Ghost melee bug
Terrible Playlist management
-No social slayer
-Most objective gametypes excluded due to hcs
-Action sack needs to be updated regularly
DLC maps underwhelming
Theatre and spectator mode need work
Matchmaking forces solo q against to4's

So in short, i think other franchises are doing better at matching there predecessors in terms of basic content and QA.

H5s sustain, while bolstered by being free, is disappointing in many ways. I can't believe this game launched with just 3 arena gametypes... one year later, and we still have just 3.

So yeah there's a lot to like about halo 5, but also a lot of just unforgivable shortcomings. That's why HaloGAF seems bipolar... because the game is bipolar
 

SURGEdude

Member
has there been any update on an ETA for the custom browser i haven't heard anything about it since it was announced

I'd like to know this too. As it stands I think I'm gonna uninstall. I don't have a ton of live friends, and an even smaller number who own Halo on XB1 or have a PC to run Forge.

From what I can tell for a guy like me this thing is useless without a way of playing randos.
 

Mix

Member
Do people really think that Halo 5's story is that bad? I always felt like 4 was a bit rocky, but 5 was great, and it ended in a way that many of my friends and I had been hoping for for nearly 10 years.
 
Do people really think that Halo 5's story is that bad? I always felt like 4 was a bit rocky, but 5 was great, and it ended in a way that many of my friends and I had been hoping for for nearly 10 years.

I liked 4's story more than 5's, on the whole. Obviously not really representative because I've actually read the books and get all the references, but 5 had a lot of what I guess I'd call "technical" issues with the writing. Scenes that cut off too soon, dialogue that doesn't flow properly, the split team focus not really being handled very well. I don't mind playing as Osiris, I mind that in playing as Osiris, Blue Team got reduced to a bunch of 2-dimensional also-theres, all while not really doing anything terribly interesting with Locke & Co.

That said, it did do a great job of hyping me the hell up for 6. Incredibly excited to see what they do with the new status quo, and without whatever pressures led to what's pretty clearly a half-step game in 5.
 

jem0208

Member
Do people really think that Halo 5's story is that bad? I always felt like 4 was a bit rocky, but 5 was great, and it ended in a way that many of my friends and I had been hoping for for nearly 10 years.

I didn't dislike 5's story but I think it could have been far, far better in a number of ways.

The biggest problem for me was that it was basically filler. It does a good job of setting up for 6 but as a standalone story there's not all that much there. Not much really happens.

I am very excited for 6 though.
 

Trup1aya

Member
Do people really think that Halo 5's story is that bad? I always felt like 4 was a bit rocky, but 5 was great, and it ended in a way that many of my friends and I had been hoping for for nearly 10 years.

I hated how they created an entirely new story arc, and ignored the countless arcs that they built up between h3 and h5. The created came literally out of nowhere.

In top of that there was ZERO character development
 
So uh.. Is Halsey gonna flash clone an arm or is she gonna be put into custody again for dem war crimes?

I wonder if she'll be on the run with chief and locke while trying to save the galaxy from John's crazy ex gf?
 
So uh.. Is Halsey gonna flash clone an arm or is she gonna be put into custody again for dem war crimes?

I wonder if she'll be on the run with chief and locke while trying to save the galaxy from John's crazy ex gf?

The second one, I feel. The crew of the Infinity + whatever Sanghili forces they can scrounge up on the run from Cortana's new galactic order.
 
I hated how they created an entirely new story arc, and ignored the countless arcs that they built up between h3 and h5. The created came literally out of nowhere.

In top of that there was ZERO character development

Tanaka had a pretty great arc. That combined with the fact that most of her profiles say she's proficient with technologies that typically require assistance from AIs to operate make me think we haven't seen the last of her - at least, until the Created blow over, anyway.
 

Karl2177

Member
Tanaka had a pretty great arc. That combined with the fact that most of her profiles say she's proficient with technologies that typically require assistance from AIs to operate make me think we haven't seen the last of her - at least, until the Created blow over, anyway.

Is Tanaka the red suit or the white suit?
 

SCHUEY F1

Unconfirmed Member
Do people really think that Halo 5's story is that bad? I always felt like 4 was a bit rocky, but 5 was great, and it ended in a way that many of my friends and I had been hoping for for nearly 10 years.

I enjoyed it, even though it had some issues.
 
Is Tanaka the red suit or the white suit?

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Karl2177

Member
I think you just got Karl'd lol. There's no way he didn't actually know that.

Haha, I legitimately didn't remember. I stopped caring about the lore when Halo 4 released and the setup for the story was a book that wouldn't come out for another 4 months. I'd be willing to bet that if I were to put names in one column and pictures of each Spartan, most people that played Halo 5 would get like 3 or 4 right. There's barely anything that says Linda = sniper that wouldn't indicate Kelly = sniper unless you know that Linda = Spartan with scopes on helmet.
 
It's okay, I know how to get back at him.

*inhales*

New Justice album is only a tick better than Audio, Video, Disco. Haven't had a good album since Cross.

That'll show him.
 

Karl2177

Member
It's okay, I know how to get back at him.

*inhales*

New Justice album is only a tick better than Audio, Video, Disco. Haven't had a good album since Cross.

That'll show him.

Eh. I'd say they're good, but not great like Cross. Cross was legitimately one of the best albums I've heard. AVD had some highs like Civilization, AVD, and Horsepower, but Parade and Ohio were some real stinkers. Woman has a bunch of okay songs. Nothing memorable, but nothing memorable in a bad way.

Woman is definitely not the best album this year though. Untitled Unmastered is fantastic.
 

Madness

Member
Do people really think that Halo 5's story is that bad? I always felt like 4 was a bit rocky, but 5 was great, and it ended in a way that many of my friends and I had been hoping for for nearly 10 years.

Yes. It was a bad story. Halo 4 was also not the best, it was told haphazardly and required too much external source knowledge to make sense.

My issues with H5 are that again, it requires external source knowledge. It is told very poorly as well. How does Jameson Locke go from being ONI agent to Spartan-IV? Why is this group tasked with finding Chief over others? Why even find Chief, this was part of the Hunt the Truth campaign and Chief is a traitor etc. And yet very quickly in, Locke and the team realize Chief goes awol for a reason. The focus on Osiris team for no other reason than to push new characters. We could have played as Blue Team in the same levels, but no, has to be Locke and his team. Unlike the E3 demo, we didn't see anything special like the usage of the Artemis tracking to find Chief AR etc.

Midway through, we reach a point where Chief and Blue Team are on Genesis and just 'waiting' while Osiris Team hooks up with Arbiter on Sanghelios, and still catched upto Chief to save him etc. None of Hunt the Truth mattered, playing as Osiris Team never provided any of the context or look at Chief from a different perspective like they said. None of Halo 4 or Spartan Ops mattered. They just kill Jul M'Dama off in a cutscene, Halsey is rescued and back proving her arm amputation and revenge against the UNSC is shelved, nothing about Didact, etc. It is very transparent that the idea becomes we are making a 4 player coop campaign, and we need to have new characters for our series for the day we kill off Chief for good, let's work around that. It didn't work.

If you contrast Halo 2, playing as the Arbiter was an unpopular decision at the time, but it allowed you see things and learn about the world that just wouldn't be possible with Chief. The Prophets betrayal, the Brutes, the Elites, the heirarchy, high charity. It also provided you a unique playing experience using a sword, camo, etc. Spartan Locke provides you very little. Most of what we learn about Fireteam Osiris is in taunts by Cortana near the end, or little one off dialogue.
 
Haha, I legitimately didn't remember. I stopped caring about the lore when Halo 4 released and the setup for the story was a book that wouldn't come out for another 4 months. I'd be willing to bet that if I were to put names in one column and pictures of each Spartan, most people that played Halo 5 would get like 3 or 4 right. There's barely anything that says Linda = sniper that wouldn't indicate Kelly = sniper unless you know that Linda = Spartan with scopes on helmet.
In the words of the illustrious mastrbiggy: "Karl is an idiot"

And apparently so am I! Guess the egg's on my face lol, Poodle redeemed.
 
Eh. I'd say they're good, but not great like Cross. Cross was legitimately one of the best albums I've heard. AVD had some highs like Civilization, AVD, and Horsepower, but Parade and Ohio were some real stinkers. Woman has a bunch of okay songs. Nothing memorable, but nothing memorable in a bad way.

Woman is definitely not the best album this year though. Untitled Unmastered is fantastic.

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You're a cool dude, Karl. My bad for the troll. 10/10 would follow on Sputnik.
 

Fuchsdh

Member
Yes. It was a bad story. Halo 4 was also not the best, it was told haphazardly and required too much external source knowledge to make sense.

My issues with H5 are that again, it requires external source knowledge. It is told very poorly as well. How does Jameson Locke go from being ONI agent to Spartan-IV? Why is this group tasked with finding Chief over others? Why even find Chief, this was part of the Hunt the Truth campaign and Chief is a traitor etc. And yet very quickly in, Locke and the team realize Chief goes awol for a reason. The focus on Osiris team for no other reason than to push new characters. We could have played as Blue Team in the same levels, but no, has to be Locke and his team. Unlike the E3 demo, we didn't see anything special like the usage of the Artemis tracking to find Chief AR etc.

These are frankly dumb complaints to have. The games let you know Locke was an ONI agent, now he's a Spartan. There's nothing to grapple with there. Neither is it crucial that they spend time explaining "you're the man for this mission!" Strangely enough being Spartans was reason enough for every other protagonist (save the Rookie!) in the Halo games.
 
Yes. It was a bad story. Halo 4 was also not the best, it was told haphazardly and required too much external source knowledge to make sense.

My issues with H5 are that again, it requires external source knowledge.

What irritated me is that it didn't even use the really intriguing stuff from the Greg Bear novels, instead opting for a rehash of an absurdly common sci-fi trope (rise of the thinking machines).
 
Eh. I'd say they're good, but not great like Cross. Cross was legitimately one of the best albums I've heard. AVD had some highs like Civilization, AVD, and Horsepower, but Parade and Ohio were some real stinkers. Woman has a bunch of okay songs. Nothing memorable, but nothing memorable in a bad way.

Woman is definitely not the best album this year though. Untitled Unmastered is fantastic.

Pretty much how I felt. Pleasure, Randy, and Stop were the only ones that really stuck out.
 
What irritated me is that it didn't even use the really intriguing stuff from the Greg Bear novels, instead opting for a rehash of an absurdly common sci-fi trope (rise of the thinking machines).

They did put a bit of a fun spin on it; aside from using a lot of the Greg Bear stuff as window dressing (Domain, etc.), it's the less common "doing this for your own good" AI rebellion, as opposed to the Skynet thing you usually see. Plenty of potential to see folks like Mendicant Bias going forward as well.
 

Madness

Member
It is crazy that random home streamers can give a less compressed and cleaner stream than I am seeing on championship Sunday for HCS Vegas finals. Picture is very soft and blurry. Whether it is through my Xbox One app or my 4K tv app.
 
It is crazy that random home streamers can give a less compressed and cleaner stream than I am seeing on championship Sunday for HCS Vegas finals. Picture is very soft and blurry. Whether it is through my Xbox One app or my 4K tv app.

I'm not really seeing any issues. Is it at all times or during games?
 

ultimota

Member
It is crazy that random home streamers can give a less compressed and cleaner stream than I am seeing on championship Sunday for HCS Vegas finals. Picture is very soft and blurry. Whether it is through my Xbox One app or my 4K tv app.

looks clean for me, is it auto dropping quality when your connection hiccups maybe?
 
hey, literally only funk you guys remember how people were suggesting a hybrid Sticky Det / Grenade Launcher where you pressed RT for sticky det projectiles and held it for Grenade Launcher projectiles?

Give me, like, 1.25 sleeps.
 
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