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Halo |OT 20| It really does feel like Halo
- Thread starter Fracas
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Messed around a bit with the saturation:
desaturated (less crazy red on the left)
That's great, thanks again.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Much obliged!
Yeah, me too. Especially if multiplayer is supposed to be a combat simulation or whatever Infinity is. Why wouldn't everything look new?
TS x Massacre
Member
I completely agree Kittens. It's what always appealed to me in the original H2 and H3.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Ohhh, sweet. Perfect timing for me. Thanks!
Frank, if you're reading this, the weathering and texturing is fine, but please don't wash out the colours and make red look like pastel orange again. I really love how bright and dominant that red and blue looks. It's fine if you tone down the shinyness, but the color that pops really looks amazing!
Wait, aren't you the guy who always basically says:
"Halo CE >>>>> All Other Halo games"
You know, the Halo game with what's probably the SLOWEST movement speed?
(I guess the kill times with the OG pistol are really fast, but that makes even LESS sense to me in conjunction with how slow player movement speed is)
CE has the fastest move speed, Reach has the slowest.
Speed is a function of more than just basic movement. In all honesty, the movement speed could be slower, faster, or exactly the same, I don't know. Other variables (even something as benign seeming as FOV) can have a dramatic effect on how fast a game plays and feels.
Hmm...
I can't say I actually know what's factually correct regarding this. It would be interesting to test all the games side-by-side. Perhaps using waypoints with distance markers and a stopwatch?
Orochinagis
Member
Yep.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Read the bottom of the IGN article. The overly shiny look is temporary.
Pretty sure it goes CE>2>3>Reach in terms of base movement speed. But Reach has sprint which is the outlier. CE also has some of the fastest strafe speed and killtimes too.
orichalcos
Member
Oh, yeah. That'd be cool
That's 'cause...
:epicfacepalm:
Ok, i need to go to sleep...
Der Flatulator
Member
Not sure if strafing physics is the same as walking forwards, but this article suggests that the movement speed is the same, with varying factors such as FoV and magnetism affecting our perception of speed.
Doesn't 4 have the fastest movement speed?
Also going to echo this sentiment.
I'd rather have my Spartans looking like superheroes in badass "comic book" armor rather than glorified spec-ops marines in realistic "gritty" powered armor. I mean... there's CoD: Advanced Warfare for the latter this holiday season right?
XD XD
I will concede this a bit, now that some of my memory of CE multi is returning (it's honestly been YEARS) I do remember strafe-circle battling in CE compared to other Halo games was pretty redonk... also no "run in and double melee to win" tactics.
I didn't even bring up or mention Halo 4. Chose to ignore it lol. And no, I think while it's faster than 3 and Reach, I think it's still behind Halo CE and 2. I'm not sure if I cared enough to see if the turbo update made it fastest, it also had universal sprint though.
TS x Massacre
Member
Yep, that's why I think it was an absolute awful design decision after the "AR and Melee" tactics of H3 to introduce Sprint into the Halo sandbox. I could write an essay for reasons Halo is better without Sprint, but I'll spare everyone and just say, the fast natural movement speed sans sprint is so much better for Halo gameplay.
I'm pretty sure it was faster than CE and 2...
Also I know you didn't bring it up. I was just thinking about it.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Yeah the double melee spam was annoying. I didn't mind it in Halo 2 as much, because of button combos made things interesting. Double melee became risky in Halo 2 with BXR's and such. Halo 3's melee system drove me up the wall sometimes.
Movement speed is actually one of the least important factors, aside from the extremes. The two aspects that matter to me the most are the strafe acceleration and the kill speed. If they can get those right, everything else falls into place.
For those who want to see the H2A documentary anytime, here's a link (not a live broadcasting, just a regular vid):
http://www.twitch.tv/cmpuls3/b/583677965
Starts at 11:20
http://www.twitch.tv/cmpuls3/b/583677965
Starts at 11:20
ElRenoRaven
Member
Like I said in the gaming side thread. Other than the shiny plastic look they look great. Course I'm sure the shiny and plastic look will be toned down since they've pretty much said as much. Vast improvement from Halo 4. Papa wants without a doubt.
I feel like movement speed is pretty important. In Reach it felt like you were crawling along..
Also with regards to kill speed, that pretty fast in Halo 4 as well.
Abinash117
Member
There's this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFPg8jC3eEQ . I think 343 was targeting the movement to similar to halo 3 or something, it was in an article awhile ago. The turbo update increased the movement speed by 10% , so I would assume the movement speed is faster.
EdibleExplosives
Member
If anyone wants to download the H2 Doc onto their PC, here's a 720p link: http://xvcm.xboxlive.com/VIDEO/8c/defe78aa-a994-4948-a677-166cf6b99e8c/RemakingtheLegend-Final-ProRes422HQcab4b195_HD720.MP4
2.5GB btw.
2.5GB btw.
RowdyReverb
Member
I've been on call for the past 2 days and am finally catching up on all I missed. Need to watch that ViDoc asap.
I kind of like the plastic look of the early concept armor. It makes it feel like the armor is made of that glossy NFL helmet plastic, adding to that arena-style aesthetic from the trailer. I know it's not going to stay, but something about the shininess resonated with me.
I kind of like the plastic look of the early concept armor. It makes it feel like the armor is made of that glossy NFL helmet plastic, adding to that arena-style aesthetic from the trailer. I know it's not going to stay, but something about the shininess resonated with me.
Nice.
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Damn. Now i can't play MWO. Oh, well, it just one hour DL.
The Mjolnir armor variant diversity is odd. I mean. i get that variants are probably quite cheap to develop in addition to the armor itself, and given the limited number of Spartans, and thus limited production of the said variants, the total costs are likely negligible compared to the total costs of the Spartan+Mjolnir programs.
But the amount of different variants by Halo 4 is staggering. Indeed there's quite many overlapping variants, some clearly competitors by different manufactures... but it seems there's the demand for them.
And the demand makes me wonder how big the Spartan IV program is, especially by the time of Halo 4. Will they replace the ODSTs and Marines completely at some point in the UNSC's ranks? (The UNSC Army is defensive organization, garrison forces and the like, and there will be need for such so they're unlikely to go away. But limited (spaceships can carry only so many) offensive forces, the Marines and ODSTs are arguably easier to replace).
As i'm a Battletech fan, i'll mention BT battle armor use for comparison. When the battle armor was still relatively new thing among the Inner Sphere, it was mostly used by special forces, elite units and the like. By the Dark Age, some 100 years later, battle armored infantry had almost replaced conventional infantry, in some cases it was even normal for it to supplement garrison forces.
CloudyTuba
Member
More reassurance that it looks a bit better in game for people who are skeptical:
But I like the shiny! Keep it! Just add some weathering on the corners/edges. It wont look so bright in-game anyway because the map won't be a bright featureless white room.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
I'm sorry that this happened to you, and I'm even more sorry that you posted it and not a single person commented on it to sympathize with such a tragedy. Monsters in this HaloGAF. Monsters.
Happy HALOween!
EdibleExplosives
Member
Am I right in assuming that if I order Halo:MCC off of the HK store (or another one that isn't the UK), I'll get it for cheaper and earlier?
Poodlestrike
Banned
The armor diversity makes a certain sort of sense. The Spartans are now their own, distinct military branch, equal in stature (if not in size) to the Marines, serving as especially as the UNSC's special forces in its entirety. So they've basically supplemented ODSTs. But Spartans are arguable more diverse, expected to basically be able to do anything, rather than just being dedicated drop infantry, so the equipment needed will need to be correspondingly diverse and specialized. They just cost too much to really replace Marines entirely, let alone the Army, but other than that...
Cheaper, probably, but I think they managed to score a true global release, so you'd get it at the same time regardless.
Quick edit to make the armor slightly more dull/less-shiny and green because... you know... spartans and all that.
Really do like the look of these though.
Looking pretty sweet. I'm so excited to see those things sprinting around, ground-pounding and shit.
sigh.
Der Flatulator
Member
Tried searching for "Halo" on Xbox Video?
Quick edit to make the armor slightly more dull/less-shiny and green because... you know... spartans and all that.
Really do like the look of these though.
It looks so much better than Chief's Halo 4 armor and pretty much any of the Halo 4 armors in general.
Quick edit to make the armor slightly more dull/less-shiny and green because... you know... spartans and all that.
Really do like the look of these though.
Damn, is there anyone that can make that an avatar, with none of the white background though? Think that looks pretty great though.
Yeah, i guess. It is just the size of the force, plus the cost, that make wonder about the diversity. It makes sense yet it doesn't make sense. Of course, just like Battletech runs on FASAnomics (economics in BT don't make any sense), Halo likely runs on Halonomics.
I wonder if we'll ever see Mjolnir Mark VII as Halsey imagined it, with shields that can be shaped (wings, parafoils, etc.) and other neat capabilities.
No comment on how that would affect gameplay.
EDIT Halo 4 Mark VI (MP version) like shoulder pads look terrible. But whatever, i want the Chief's Halo 4 armor for Halo 5 multiplayer.
EdibleExplosives
Member
Ah, so they'll all unlock at the same time, no matter the timezone? Wouldn't surprise me if so, I think Steam does the same (although I can't remember exactly).
Poodlestrike
Banned
Eh. I prefer Chief's 4 armor, though the lack of a highly visible undersuit in this one is a huge plus.
I think the ground pound could work, actually. Have it kill anyone in direct contact, strip shields in a grenade-esque radius, and deplete the user's shields as well. Risk, reward.
Call it a hunch, I think we'll use something a whole lot like Halsey's Mark VII for the Locke sections. Have them really go nuts.
No way that stuff is making it into MP, tho
It should release 12:01 am local time ( i.e. my XBOX says 00:01 EET)