Ragnarok Flames
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link to shinobi's post?
also anyone want to play some Advanced Warfare to get some practice in for the Beta?
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Halo |OT 20| It really does feel like Halo
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link to shinobi's post?
also anyone want to play some Advanced Warfare to get some practice in for the Beta?
Poodlestrike
Banned
At this point, the only hope I have is that Shinobi's contacts are trolling him, but even I know I'm fooling myself with that one.
Check my post above.
That's why he said run *or* gun
Saw the footage just a little while ago.
so sad. Hi, briefly, halogaf.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What the fuck is happening.
343 happened, a long time ago.
TriStateTryHard
Member
That's exactly how Sprint and ADS change gameplay and that flies directly in the face of Halo's core experience.
Sprint - choose between full speed or being able to fire, not run and gun
ADS - choose between full speed or being able to fire accurately, not run and gun
Halo fans aren't averse to any and all changes, just ones that contradict the core experience.
Blue Ninja
Member
First post was about AR ADS.
Second was about Locke being primary character in campaign. Stinkles called bullshit on that one once before, so I guess we'll see.
If it's actually ADS, legit ADS, then fuck us. MCC must be a "we've got MCC for you" thing. We must be a statistic, a much smaller one than The ADS crowd. One that it makes more sense to ignore for bigger sales. I can't think of any other reason. You can't sell me on ADS. Not for Halo. Not ever. Just nope. I'll always buy for campaign so I guess you got me.
And if Locke is really primary character? No words.
And if Locke is really primary character? No words.
So, exactly what I already said?
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
Maybe because most of them are pros in shitty Halo games? Players who grow up with Sprint and a lack of individual skill probably aren't going to have the knowledge or the conviction to make a solid, old-school Halo game. Expecting them to have any meaningful impact on the direction of future Halo games is foolish.
Also, everyone who says, "If we just give solid, constructive feedback 343 will listen!" are kidding themselves. The exact same thing has been said for literally every Halo game since Halo 2. Halo developers don't listen to players like us, they never have and they never will. Its just the nature of the beast. No matter how much they say they're "listening to us," they really aren't. Its time to be honest with yourselves; any Beta "feedback" any of us give is going to be completely irrelevant.
I'm actually going to withhold judgement until we get more solid footage, because the only thing that really impacts the game for me is going to be how difficult it is to land shots. Everything else follows from there. With the current footage, all we know is that they're making some poor design decisions that could turn out alright depending on how they are implemented.
You have it backwards. When journalists gives Alien: Isolation a 5.9, they catch far more hell from places like NeoGAF than any amount of pressure they've ever felt from a publisher. That + Destiny + Korra + NBA Live + any other number of reviews won't sway people like you that are sure you think we're evaluating games based on anything other than the quality of the game. So why should I bother trying to convince you?
People project their own biases onto high-profile game writers. I've been labeled a "well known" fanboy for all three consoles, based on whatever opinion I happened to state on that week's show. The irony is always lost on the accusers.
Do you want to know a secret about the games business that took me a long time to figure out? Devs and PR people know whether their game is any good or not. They're never mad about 7s or 5s. They know they ran out of time or money, and they pay good money to have accurate projections for where the review scores are going to fall. Every once in a while a negative review can really come out of nowhere and surprise someone that thought they had a great game on their hands, but that's very rare.
This is why reviewers don't feel any heat to be anything but totally honest and blunt in their evaluation. It's not going to come as a surprise to the folks that worked on the product for years.
Syphon Filter
Member
Its over ,accept it people. Like death in life, you just need to accept good things don't last forever. I got to admit i should have cherished Halo 3 more than i did.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
They really think WE are what is holding Halo back. They want a new audience. They come in here to pacify the community but that's what is going on.
No other explanation to go 100% the opposite direction from what the fans want. Doesn't make numbers sense either. The H4 player population is garbage.
Let's even change the lead character in the Campaign. They are LITERALLY trying to make it another game, maybe we just have to accept it and move on.
biosnake20
Member
Syphon Filter
Member
Now that i think about it, i think he requested a ban for the upcoming shitstorm that the H5 reveal will be lol.
TriStateTryHard
Member
Do you guys remember the occasional Bungie.net thread where someone would suggest ADS in Halo?
Fuck this.
Fuck this.
AGREED. FUCK HALO 5.
What MSFT executive made this design decision? If anyone from 343 actually generated the concept, they should be ashamed of themselves and should be ashamed to call themselves a video game designer.
Microsoft executives are so fucking stupid, stop chasing the COD pie, you'll never get it.
Cry bitter tears and play MCC for the next 10 years.
Well, the MCC is there for you to continue that cherishing.
Edit: This was poorly worded. Not trying to say this means the issues with Halo 5 should be disregarded only that he can continue to enjoy Halo 3.
I feel like the MCC is 343's way of placating the Halo Community in regards to things to come. They're going to change pretty much everything in the series yet they expect us to accept it and say "Well at least we still have the MCC."
Halo 5 is the last chance I am giving 343. They know very well what fans want in a Halo game and they even said Halo 4 failed. Will they pull through and make a great Halo game? After today, I'm really starting to doubt that. But whatever, if they fail, the community will drop even harder than it did with Halo 4. This is Xbox's premiere franchise, yet it's heading to its demise thanks to decisions made by MS and 343.
Halo 5 is the last chance I am giving 343. They know very well what fans want in a Halo game and they even said Halo 4 failed. Will they pull through and make a great Halo game? After today, I'm really starting to doubt that. But whatever, if they fail, the community will drop even harder than it did with Halo 4. This is Xbox's premiere franchise, yet it's heading to its demise thanks to decisions made by MS and 343.
Poker Face
Member
can someone explain MGS2 thing to me? never played it.
Welfare
Member
Those were (hopefully) jokes from what I remember.
You play as Solid Snake for the first part of the game (like 45m-1h), and then for the rest you play as Raiden.
Onikaan
Member
Sorry I don't get it. Can ye explain?
Syphon Filter
Member
where did you hear about phasing out chief?
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Man, I hate ADS but I'll reserve judgment until we see more gameplay.
When's Project Livechamber? Are they hiring?
When's Project Livechamber? Are they hiring?
I don't know if you remember any of my posts in Beyond Entertainment or my Gamers Corner podcast in the ol days, but I predicted this should would happen. I knew ADS would eventually come to Halo.
This is so pathetic. I feel really sorry for the video game industry that they continue to think copying COD will equate to a successful ROI. (return on investment)
Horrible, horrible. If I were a 343 employee, I'd be seriously ashamed of myself.
VisceralBowl
Member
In MGS2 you play as Snake in the first chapter and then Raiden for the rest of the game. Locke is apparently main character, and in this situation, Raiden. Media up until release didn't indicate this.
In MGS2 the first part of the game was you playing as Snake, then once part 2 hits you were playing entirely as Raiden. Thing is Kojima kept secret up to MGS2's release of Raiden's existence.
He's an insider. He has a history of being accurate in his guesses.
Ein Bear
Member
The main character of Metal Gear Solid 1 is Solid Snake. In MGS2, you play as Snake for the first 45 minutes of the game, and then switch to playing a new character called Raiden for the rest. Raiden's existance as a playable character was kept a secret until release.
Why reserve judgement? It's pretty black and white...there's ADS in Halo 5. That's it. No amount of awesome gameplay will negate that.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
Jem that line of reasoning is bullshit. we shouldnt be relegated to a few games that will get ignored by the sustain team when their next abortion of Halo gets released.
Poker Face
Member
well uh...that's not cool (for halo).
guess it makes sense why locke is on the top of the cover. he's the focal point.
Even though it's an early beta, the game is set in stone right. If sprint is standard, the maps aren't going to be changed with feedback that sprint should be removed. The maps wouldn't work and I doubt the time will be spent to redo them. ADS as standard possibly means cover since you would be rooted more often so another map headache that would be a pain to change after feedback.
So, anyone on the sounds so bad but there is a chance of being awesome train or is Halo completely off the rails with no redemption.
The Monday reveal has to be the greatest or worst pitch ever.
So, anyone on the sounds so bad but there is a chance of being awesome train or is Halo completely off the rails with no redemption.
The Monday reveal has to be the greatest or worst pitch ever.
TriStateTryHard
Member
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...-doesn-39-t-have-iron-sights.aspx?PageIndex=7
"When you think about aiming down sights or iron-sights, youre kind of talking about a bullet-point on a list of design features and that in and of itself is fine, but you kind of want to think about the entire experience: 'What is an entire encounter like?'" adds 343's Chad Armstrong. "With Halo, you tend to get recognisable pacing and something like iron-sights can have a dramatic affect on what that pacing is."
"When you think about aiming down sights or iron-sights, youre kind of talking about a bullet-point on a list of design features and that in and of itself is fine, but you kind of want to think about the entire experience: 'What is an entire encounter like?'" adds 343's Chad Armstrong. "With Halo, you tend to get recognisable pacing and something like iron-sights can have a dramatic affect on what that pacing is."
Ragnarok Flames
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IGN.