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Halo |OT 20| It really does feel like Halo
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Halo Bulletin:
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/...-halo-bulletin-assault-on-controller-settings
Goes into Controller setting details (universal controller settings, options, etc.)
Edit: Aw, no impulse triggers in Halo CE, CEA, or 2 SP. 3 out of 4 ain't bad.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/...-halo-bulletin-assault-on-controller-settings
Goes into Controller setting details (universal controller settings, options, etc.)
Edit: Aw, no impulse triggers in Halo CE, CEA, or 2 SP. 3 out of 4 ain't bad.
use equipment?
Yessss, even better since now I'm going to directly stream it to twitch with Xbone anyways.
Demoncarnotaur
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Poker Face
Member
why wouldn't it? it runs off of halo 4's engine lol
You're banned, I don't know how, but I don't really care either.
The counter to your points is that medals serve two main purposes: 1) reward the player for their actions; and 2) allow the player to identify the result of their action with ease. In order to do this, the color palette must be varied enough to quickly distinguish one medal from another. In addition to the color palette, the overall shape must follow a certain theme for the type of medal being rewarded. Halo 4's medal chest didn't give much for the player to quickly distinguish what they just earned, forcing them to rely on the kill feed and on audio cues.
Funny enough, Bungie's color palette progression was mimicked through both sprees and multikills, as you can see below.
In the end, it's all about giving information to the player. A designer wants to give the player the most precise information that they can, otherwise the player is going to feel like something is being withheld from them. When I played Halo 4, I found myself ignoring the medal feed completely, relying entirely on the kill feed. Older Halo games had me utilizing both; medal feed to glance and see the basic shape and color, kill feed to get more detailed info.
Think your right.
BigEvilTurtle
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You're banned, I don't know how, but I don't really care either.
The counter to your points is that medals serve two main purposes: 1) reward the player for their actions; and 2) allow the player to identify the result of their action with ease. In order to do this, the color palette must be varied enough to quickly distinguish one medal from another. In addition to the color palette, the overall shape must follow a certain theme for the type of medal being rewarded. Halo 4's medal chest didn't give much for the player to quickly distinguish what they just earned, forcing them to rely on the kill feed and on audio cues.
Funny enough, Bungie's color palette progression was mimicked through both sprees and multikills, as you can see below.
In the end, it's all about giving information to the player. A designer wants to give the player the most precise information that they can, otherwise the player is going to feel like something is being withheld from them. When I played Halo 4, I found myself ignoring the medal feed completely, relying entirely on the kill feed. Older Halo games had me utilizing both; medal feed to glance and see the basic shape and color, kill feed to get more detailed info.
Beautiful post.
Frankie said in June that is was 3 and 4, might have changed since (?) or just confirmed to the guy that there is 3 and 4 with his question.
Pretty awesome to have it included in that, can get some great shots for montages now.
aHebrewMenagerie
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Recon as universal default? Correct choice, well done Frankie.
That seems correct to me. There has definitely been work put in since Halo 4 that has been applied to H2A, and subsequently to Halo 5.
My advice on graphics is, they're hitting 1080p 60fps on a console that has a hard time doing it with many other games. Let the art speak for the visuals but don't expect the most effects-heavy game ever. They're definitely prioritizing nailing the general feel over wowing with graphics, which is absolutely the right move in a game like Halo.
Nice to see Karl2177 still knows his shit about Halo after a few years.
GringoSuave89
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You're banned, I don't know how, but I don't really care either.
The counter to your points is that medals serve two main purposes: 1) reward the player for their actions; and 2) allow the player to identify the result of their action with ease. In order to do this, the color palette must be varied enough to quickly distinguish one medal from another. In addition to the color palette, the overall shape must follow a certain theme for the type of medal being rewarded. Halo 4's medal chest didn't give much for the player to quickly distinguish what they just earned, forcing them to rely on the kill feed and on audio cues.
Funny enough, Bungie's color palette progression was mimicked through both sprees and multikills, as you can see below.
In the end, it's all about giving information to the player. A designer wants to give the player the most precise information that they can, otherwise the player is going to feel like something is being withheld from them. When I played Halo 4, I found myself ignoring the medal feed completely, relying entirely on the kill feed. Older Halo games had me utilizing both; medal feed to glance and see the basic shape and color, kill feed to get more detailed info.
Way to go God Mode on us. Great post, I had no idea there were color conventions.
BeamImpact
Member
just read the bulletin, once again no option to deactivate aim assistant and look speed range 1-10
id really like to see it being increased to 20 at least, 10 as maximum just feels so slow compared to other games, its almost painfull
only GoW and Destiny have a turnspeed being equally slow, no other games are this slow
id really like to see it being increased to 20 at least, 10 as maximum just feels so slow compared to other games, its almost painfull
only GoW and Destiny have a turnspeed being equally slow, no other games are this slow
You're banned, I don't know how, but I don't really care either.
The counter to your points is that medals serve two main purposes: 1) reward the player for their actions; and 2) allow the player to identify the result of their action with ease. In order to do this, the color palette must be varied enough to quickly distinguish one medal from another. In addition to the color palette, the overall shape must follow a certain theme for the type of medal being rewarded. Halo 4's medal chest didn't give much for the player to quickly distinguish what they just earned, forcing them to rely on the kill feed and on audio cues.
Funny enough, Bungie's color palette progression was mimicked through both sprees and multikills, as you can see below.
In the end, it's all about giving information to the player. A designer wants to give the player the most precise information that they can, otherwise the player is going to feel like something is being withheld from them. When I played Halo 4, I found myself ignoring the medal feed completely, relying entirely on the kill feed. Older Halo games had me utilizing both; medal feed to glance and see the basic shape and color, kill feed to get more detailed info.
Great post Karl. That's exactly what I think about the medals. Sometimes people think too technically than practical. I'm sure the rage in art design these days is minimalist and standardizing to seamlessly blend in to UI elements. But I'm playing a shooter here. I need quick visual feedback within seconds. It wasn't a problem in previous games, it was a huge problem in Halo 4, where I just didn't care. I couldn't tell what I got, or why. Did I get this medal because I pumped two shots into a vehicle someone else killed, did I get it because I died 4 times in a row before getting another kill. Plus I think unlike Halo 3 and Reach, they didn't even really show who got the top medals last game, how many.
The Halo 4 medals may look clean and blend in, but they do a worse job at conveying info, which is the point of them.
ElzarTheBam
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Amazing post, Karl.
Especially since the point of having those distinct color schemes was to display information indirectly. If you're in the middle of donging your 4th dude after getting a triple kill, you're not looking right at your medal feed, but you can confirm through the colors slightly to the side of where you're looking that you're getting your kills in time. Having to actually look right at the medals to tell what they're for because they all look similar makes using them as a peripheral sense impossible.
Poker Face
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Yea I'm kind of surprised they waited this long to confirm it.
Well *every* Halo runs off a previous version of the engine I think. They're just heavily modified every time. You can see some of the nuances of the Halo 4 engine in H2A gameplay.
NobleGundam
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Halo 4 medals looked kinda uninspired and lazy design overall.
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kittens
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Added you! My GT is kittens dx.
Sweet.
I'm rocking BF4 at the moment if anyone else is looking to kill time before MCC comes out.
Would be nice if there were custom gamerpics for Live. (outside of the avatar picture thing)
FUBAR McDangles
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Decided to search her for the first time in a while and found out she did not in fact retire at the beginning of the year like I thought.
Bah. Gawd.
This got me thinking: EA Access: Anyone got and if so, how is it?
You got a lot of Fap-tching up to do, eh?
Does it give you access to the DLC's?
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kittens
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I'm taking a pseudo-break from gaming this month, but once 11/11 hits it's fuckin on.
Unpopular opinion time.
I actually don't mind Halo 4's medals.
The frequency that you receive them can be comical at times, but the medals themselves are fine in my book.
I agree with the person that said you should be able to recognize the medals in your peripheral vision rather than being confused even when you look at them.
To each their own I guess!
Poodlestrike
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Unpopular opinion time.
I actually don't mind Halo 4's medals.
The frequency that you receive them can be comical at times, but the medals themselves are fine in my book.
Ditto. There's too many of the damn things, and they hand them out too readily, but I actually like the designs. I think if there were fewer, they'd be easier to distinguish.
Exactly.
But I feel that the "common" medals are easily distinguished by their colors even up to Halo 4.
The uncommon ones tend to be more similar color wise, but in the heat of things those don't really matter. That's more for post-game checking in my opinion.
edit: I would be able to get by with just the first two rows, if not fewer. These show plenty of info at a quick glance I think.
Finally got an Avatar after like 5 months of lurking mostly!
I got it from a small poster I found while cleaning a couple months ago:
Man, this brings back memories of Magazines and Halo 2.
Greatest issue of all time.
Unpopular opinion time.
I actually don't mind Halo 4's medals.
The frequency that you receive them can be comical at times, but the medals themselves are fine in my book.
i also don't mind the H4 medals
There's a difference between not minding the medals and not recognizing they do a worse job than those that came before it. You can't just say, "oh if they only had fewer medals it'd be better" because they don't. They have more medals, and they all look alike. Even in the above photo, only the first row is distinguishable at a glance, why? Because they use varying colors and designs. The second row blends in. You have made 1-4 seconds to see them in your peripheral vision, and they need to be distinguished.
I get if they don't bother you, you don't mind them, but what are you arguing against then? Is there any argument that can be made, from a medal standpoint, how they're better than Halo 3 or Reach medals?
I get if they don't bother you, you don't mind them, but what are you arguing against then? Is there any argument that can be made, from a medal standpoint, how they're better than Halo 3 or Reach medals?
FUBAR McDangles
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Unpopular opinion time.
I actually don't mind Halo 4's medals.
The frequency that you receive them can be comical at times, but the medals themselves are fine in my book.
Agree. It's fun. Gets too much hate.
Hmm... looks like according to the layouts I'll prolly be using "Universal Reclaimer". I've always used defaults in the Halo games but switching between Halo 3 and all the other games will throw me off badly, I suspect. I've gotten used to Halo 4 melee on right bumper and I'd much rather have reload/action be on X like it should be.
(Reloading being on Right bumper has always felt wrong. I sometimes miss those black and white buttons on OG Xbox...)
(Reloading being on Right bumper has always felt wrong. I sometimes miss those black and white buttons on OG Xbox...)
NobleGundam
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Ahhh Ninja Gaiden, Halo 2, and Project Gotham Racing 2 made OG Xbox.
My posts weren't for the sake of argument. They were my opinions on the medals.
With all of the negative views towards the medals I figured it couldn't hurt to say that there was at least one person that didn't mind them.
edit: It would be nice to have an option to customize which medals you wanted shown in game/match, and have all the others you don't much care for saved for the post-match stats page.
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