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Halo |OT 20| It really does feel like Halo
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The Henery
Member
Sure there are workarounds but it's a fundamentally bad design, distractingly so. The focus when designing a new pad should be for seamless synergy between your input and the results on the screen. I shouldn't notice anything in particular or feel resistance. When I first held the 360 pad I instantly thought it was the best designed pad thus far in gaming; perfect analog stick and trigger placement and springy reflexive bumpers that are comfortable to hit or hold. Superior to most pads I'd used with the exception of that abortion of a d-pad. Contrast that to my first use of the One pad where it immediately feels awkward and It's difficult the hold down the right bumper for more than a few seconds without slipping off of it.
If a video exists on how to use it 'correctly' and it has 36,000 views then something's wrong
Hopefully using BJ in MCC will be ok seeing as I won't be required to hold the button down but if there was the option to use the 360 pad I'd swap it back in a heartbeat.
Its designed so you can switch between the triggers and the bumpers without picking up your finger, just slide them up. On the trigger, you are using your whole finger, not just the tips, to push down. The bumpers on the XB1 are designed similarly with the curvature to make it possible.
Anyway, I have not heard any complaints from using them during all the events this past year.
At this point, I can't go back to the 360 controller. Feels cheap and too plastic-y.. just doesn't feel as good overall.
Yeah, but, wrestling gifs? THE BEST!
Damn right.
2 had a good story. 3 was just a lot of fun to play. Better guns, better environments, better set pieces. I can play the ark through to the end of the game any time. Shit, I'll play the whole campaign because it's so good.
Honest to god, I hope it's the same guy who's been doing the coverage. He's super passionate about it.
The Henery
Member
I googled it quickly last night and there are posts permeating every forum I cared to look on complaining about the bumpers specifically. The most current xbox one console thread on Gaf is having the controller discussion in the last 24 hours: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=847211&highlight=xbox+one&page=14
The first thing my friend noticed when he bought the One were the bumpers on the pad. If it was just me saying this, fine, but it's obviously a problem for a significant number of users.
fixed for my subjective opinion
CE was great, and a classic, but 3 was the complete package. Both are good.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Yeah, why is this a thing? I want to shoot buttons with my gun, or step on switches. The sync plates in destiny are a thing I like. But I mostly want to shoot stuff like those cores in Two Betrayals.
e; wait, that's not what you do to them. Anyway, there are lots of examples of things you shoot to "break" or whatever in Halo that are much better than pressing a god damn button.
I honestly think 2 would have trumped them both had it not been for the bad ending
I agree though, Halo 3 was the shit. Only things that I really didn't like in 3 were the bad
boss battle with Guilty Spark
Sgt Johnson going down in a very unfitting way
aHebrewMenagerie
Member
YAGA!
Imo you should be able to use Kinect to press buttons. 10/10 game mechanic right there.
^^ omfg stfu
The bad boss fights and rushed brutes will always be bad to me. In fact, the whole campaign was pretty rushed iirc. We got halo 3 after 2, so it's all good.
The bad boss fights and rushed brutes will always be bad to me. In fact, the whole campaign was pretty rushed iirc. We got halo 3 after 2, so it's all good.
I AM LITERALLY SO IMMERSED RIGHT NOW
True. Halo 3 kind of had the worst boss fight though :/
I actually experimented with mapping FPS melee and grenade throws to kinect motions a couple years ago.
It sucked balls.
Halo 3 campaign has the best gameplay moments.
But I loved the environment set pieces and story of Halo 2. Being on those gondolas gave you a sense of scale that I haven't seen yet repeated in a Halo game. We got those open flying sections in Halo 3, Reach, and 4 but I'm talking about really selling the scale of forerunner architecture. Can't wait to see that shit in HD.
Might be in the minority here but I wish Bungie took the boss fights from Halo 2 and just approved upon them. I know a lot of the design philosophy went against boss fights but I think I woudld have liked them in a Halo game. They gave some variety. Regret boss fight was silly with the boarding and Tarturus was a dumb sponge that we had to wait for Johnson to randomly pop his shield. But I thought the fight against the heretic was fun with the hologram mechanic and how mobile he was.
Would not mind them bringing back some interesting boss like encounters in Halo 5. Just so the combat isn't just plasma pistol and headshot for days.
But I loved the environment set pieces and story of Halo 2. Being on those gondolas gave you a sense of scale that I haven't seen yet repeated in a Halo game. We got those open flying sections in Halo 3, Reach, and 4 but I'm talking about really selling the scale of forerunner architecture. Can't wait to see that shit in HD.
Might be in the minority here but I wish Bungie took the boss fights from Halo 2 and just approved upon them. I know a lot of the design philosophy went against boss fights but I think I woudld have liked them in a Halo game. They gave some variety. Regret boss fight was silly with the boarding and Tarturus was a dumb sponge that we had to wait for Johnson to randomly pop his shield. But I thought the fight against the heretic was fun with the hologram mechanic and how mobile he was.
Would not mind them bringing back some interesting boss like encounters in Halo 5. Just so the combat isn't just plasma pistol and headshot for days.
MaxRealflugel
Neo Member
Previously, on Lost...
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
It's not a workaround, though. It's how the controller is meant to be used. I understand that it might not be intuitive for a lot of people and that using 360 style bumpers would have caused less confusion, but I think they are totally functional as is. They work as designed for people who use them as designed. I found it only momentarily confusing, personally. I've been using Bumper Jumper like control schemes in both Titanfall and Destiny and I've been fine.
This confuses me too, though, haha. I've heard other people say that, and I don't get how it's possible. I always raise my finger.
I think the Scarab in Halo 3 was a better take on bosses than anything in Halo 2. The issue with scarabs in H3 was just the lack of variety.
Such blasphemy.
That's what I'm talking about. Use the Halo 3 scale when rating halo games. Halo 4 would be a 0.8
Don't do this to me. Don't.
You're Halo 4 to me now.
Halo 3 had Tsavo Highway. This exact moment is still epic to me years later:
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Don't do this to me. Don't.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I got that moment spoiled in some video preview before the game came out. Was kind of a bummer.You're Halo 4 to me now.
Halo 3 had Tsavo Highway. This exact moment is still epic to me years later:
Welp, now I should ask all of HaloGAF. What do you think is the best Halo mission?
My vote would probably be Silent Cartographer, followed closely by Assault on the Control Room. Honorable mention to The Maw for that 'Hog escape
TriStateTryHard
Member
Halo 2 Classic Tournament (MCC)
Columbus, OH
December 12-14
$10,000 prize pool
https://irongaming.tv/events/3
Columbus, OH
December 12-14
$10,000 prize pool
https://irongaming.tv/events/3
100 % agree.
Here we fucking go.
Cannot unsee
I remember when events like this meant I was in all weekend watching streams and playing halo. Now my weekends are pumpkin patches and antiquing. Where did I go wrong?
Can't see on mobile, are there sign ups? I'm not pro but I'd love to try this out.