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Halo |OT 23| Thruster is Love, Thruster is Life
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Better campaign, no bloom, no armor lock...should I continue?
SaganIsGOAT
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NobleGundam
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NobleGundam
Banned
My fault, thought you mean Anny Slayer.
Don't even think I touched that playlist. Stuck to Invasion, SWAT, or Arena.
Just curious, in what way would you the Halo 4 campaign was better than Reach? In my opinion, from a gameplay standpoint, and then maybe story standpoint? And I mean self-contained in the game itself. Everything about the Halo 4 campaign was bad to me. From sound, level design, enemy encounters, piss-poor story. I only beat the Reach campaign twice, and yet I could tell you what exactly happened where, tell you all memorable parts of the campaign, the major deaths, even tell you the music that was playing. Halo 4, despite beating it, replaying it over and over for achievements, I can't tell you much of what happened. Just one big jumble. It was a slog to get through. I can't tell you what music played where, any defining levels beyond the first, maybe when you land on Requiem, and maybe the last level.
Also, yeah bloom sucked and armor lock(jetpack as well) were horrendous additions to the gameplay, but are you really going to overlook instant respawn, global ordnance, personal ordnance, killcams, universal sprint, almost identical armor abilities to Reach (but because there are so many more variables they don't influence gameplay as much as Reach), perks, flinch, no X on death, weapon loadouts, and then locked specializations for a lot of people including most of Europe who couldn't do anything beyond SR70 if they didn't pre-order, lets not forget double XP where people photographed bags of Doritos to get 200 matches of double XP which meant they unlocked stability before anybody else etc.
Then again, your opinion just as valid as mine. Campaign wise, Reach ranks very highly for me, for a myriad of reasons, how it played, how I felt etc.
Personally, the presentation was the best in the series next to Halo 2. While it was incredibly short even on Legendary, it had great pacing and keep me more engaged than Reach's cookie-cutter campaign(
). Reach was pretty forgettable(again, opinions) with the whole Noble Team premise and Halo 4's did have it's flaws as the whole Chief/Cortana love affair and rampancy was just corny. Jetpack was my most used AA in Reach though, did work with it on Sword Base.
Even with all the flaws you listed, still had more fun playing Infinity Slayer than with the tank like Spartans in Reach. It was far from perfect, but it played much closer to H3 than Reach did. Outside of ordinance, don't really think the other stuff hinder gameplay much.
it's CE rehashed
Even with all the flaws you listed, still had more fun playing Infinity Slayer than with the tank like Spartans in Reach. It was far from perfect, but it played much closer to H3 than Reach did. Outside of ordinance, don't really think the other stuff hinder gameplay much.
Oh I'm not poking fun. I'm in the same situation as you, I have a console I don't really want anymore now that I returned MCC. I hope Forza 6 turns out great because this might be the biggest waste I've done in gaming. $400 I could have put towards my future PC purchase.
Fun you playing any halo right now? Was thinking of maybe hopping on that halo ce
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Reach Spartans had the best proportions. Actually a filled out human inside those suits.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Finished a little while ago. I'll invite you next time I get on.
Ashes2Bashers
Member
You>Others
My Opinion>Your Opinion>Other Opinions
I think 4 is more casual than previous games but I don't think that makes it worse. If you remove the ordnance and add weapons to the map like it is on the MCC it's actually really fun. I love sprinting around killing people. It feels so much more fast paced than previous Halos (I know, I know it's not technically faster paced at all however I don't really care about technicalities; it feels faster and that's what I care about). Halo 3 feels like you're walking in treacle but you have spring boots and the BR is an atrocity, CE's movement is bizarre and so is its weirdly inconsistent pistol (probably a combo of lag and broken auto aim). Halo 2 on the other hand still feels great, the BR is fun to use and the movement feels fine.
I never felt that the loadouts had that big of an effect for most battles. I hardly ever even noticed perks, the worst was eject but thankfully I didn't encounter that much. The armour abilities never bothered me either; sure jet pack probably ruins the flow of a map and Promethean vision is just Uber motion tracker. However I never cared about that mid game because I had people to shoot in the head.
My two biggest points of consideration when it comes to judging FPS games are 'how the movement feels' and 'how the gunplay feels'. They trump everything else. And because of that IMO...
2 > 4 > 3 > CE* > Reach
*CE's multiplayer is admittedly based off of playing on the MCC. I did play it quite a lot on the PC but I can't remember it very well
Campaign wise it's a bit different:
First half of 2 > 3 > CE > ODST = 4 > second half of 2 > Reach
Sadly I'm not joking. In a laggy game it feels like there's a massive FPS drop. Even the bloody UI starts stuttering. It's bizarre.
I never felt that the loadouts had that big of an effect for most battles. I hardly ever even noticed perks, the worst was eject but thankfully I didn't encounter that much. The armour abilities never bothered me either; sure jet pack probably ruins the flow of a map and Promethean vision is just Uber motion tracker. However I never cared about that mid game because I had people to shoot in the head.
My two biggest points of consideration when it comes to judging FPS games are 'how the movement feels' and 'how the gunplay feels'. They trump everything else. And because of that IMO...
2 > 4 > 3 > CE* > Reach
*CE's multiplayer is admittedly based off of playing on the MCC. I did play it quite a lot on the PC but I can't remember it very well
Campaign wise it's a bit different:
First half of 2 > 3 > CE > ODST = 4 > second half of 2 > Reach
Sadly I'm not joking. In a laggy game it feels like there's a massive FPS drop. Even the bloody UI starts stuttering. It's bizarre.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
This MCC game. Custom parties drop out, can't join, black screen P2P customs when all players are from the same state...
No party matchmakimg ever works, try solo again after that and no players found.
Oh well back to GTAV.
No party matchmakimg ever works, try solo again after that and no players found.
Oh well back to GTAV.
Boy, you want the bad opinion train all for yourself huh?
Lack of pause = a disaster
Different audience perhaps and they are catering to the Halo channel with quick content videos. Not my cup of tea but kids looking for some Halo stuff, probably works for them. I don't know what 343 are doing these days. Maybe the disconnect is a result of the Halo machine, devs give no fucks beyond the game, the other 343 departments give no fucks about the game, focused on merchandising, expansion etc. which rings completely hollow like in that video. 343 Factories. Sure there is passionate people there but the whole operation comes across as clinical, how 343 don't see this I don't know, $$$ probably. Mission statement feels like exploit every angle for maximum profit rather than make a great game first. I'm still interested in Halo 5, the campaign particularly now to see were they take it but the studio needs to cut down on the hollow fluff, gives us some free of PR insight, good and bad. Just be honest without running it through the marketing machine, less buzzwords and community back slapping quotes which are meaningless dribble. It would probably save you money! Keep things simple, keep it clean. There is a place for marketing, competitions, merchandise. Give the community a choice to follow, not lump everything in some Christmas Tree of PR.
ElzarTheBam
Member
I uninstalled MCC today, I won't be playing anymore Halo till 5.
The Real Napsta
Member
That seems extreme.
ElzarTheBam
Member
2 issues contributed to it really.
1. I don't think they're as good as they once were. Nostalgia and all that.
2. It worked very little for me.
Implying that MCC would let you.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Ayeee
Yea. Sadly no. 1 is also accurate for me.
Will be playing Destiny, Titanfall(what gen are you scrub) and diablo
Bungie built out gametypes and specific bugfixes just for the playlist and was the one that put out the call for Forge remakes.
*shrug*
edit: for example they deployed an update to all gametypes where the Camo powerup kept you completely camo'd no matter how fast you moved just to make that playlist work.
Blue Ninja
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The Bam has fallen. Repent, the end is nigh.
Forerunner
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As much hate as Reach gets, it was my most played Halo, it was just fun. It was more of a love hate relationship though.
User 73706
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I definitely think I played the most, like, traditional PvP multiplayer in Reach. It was just one of those situations where the community / matchmaking were still strong enough to keep playing it for years on end. Halo 3 had a solid community too, but with all the new features that were introduced the fandom was way more compartmentalized. Minigames, machinima, forging, etc. I think I only played like 300 ranked matchmade games in all of Halo 3's lifespan. Spent wayyyy more time in customs doing dumb minigames and shit.
game was frustrating but the community was sooooo good at the time
i would hop on and there would always be at least 5 people playing
HigherLevel
Member
What's the current state of the MCC? Still broken? I'm really wanting some Halo in my life right now but I don't know if I wanna spend money on something that won't work.
Welfare
Member
The Halo 4 playlist works, for me at least.
Latvian Hitman
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With a party, or just by yourself? I've yet to encounter any playlist that behaves in a satisfactory manner with a party at any time during this game's lifespan.
Never tried with a party no. However in solo it works just as well as any other game. Takes less than 30 seconds to find a game every time. The only issue I had was that 1 game ended early out of about 30.
Don't buy it. Networking issues aside, Halo 2 classic suffers from terrible hit detection, Halo CE has game breaking reticle magnetism, and you will encounter glitches in single player.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Gen 2.
I don't think I want to regen in that game again, don't like losing all my unlocks.
RowdyReverb
Member
I hope that extra week of work on the next CU was well spent. Really optimistic that it will finally fix the game instead of putting band aids on issues.
Even if it takes another month, it would be worth it to finally have a great, easy way to enjoy legacy Halo games for years to come, i.e. What MCC was supposed to be in the first place.
Even if it takes another month, it would be worth it to finally have a great, easy way to enjoy legacy Halo games for years to come, i.e. What MCC was supposed to be in the first place.
Garrett 2U
Member
Agreed
I barely touch my Xbox anymore because it just depresses me
Would be nice for the CU to fix the game finally
SmartWaffles
Member
The more I play Titanfall, the more I hate how MCC was ruined.
I'm also not happy because my headphone adapter broke.
I'm also not happy because my headphone adapter broke.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Titanfall Gen 1 life. Too bad they gave us a damn emblem because that empty space was cool.
Prestiging is so silly.
Prestiging is so silly.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I'm still shook about how fucked the MCC was/is
like damn that was a dream game man...
like damn that was a dream game man...
SmartWaffles
Member
I'm Gen 8 on PC, probably not going to regen past 2 on Xbone tho, if not for the achievement.
AnonomissX
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Dang, refresh the page and you changed ethnicity, lol. But I've posted on waypoint before, that the support of the community, the custom maps and games is what goosed the longevity of Halo 3. It was a second golden triangle of gaming, if you will. Some social matchmaking, then some ranked, and then kick it in customs. Even more fun when you could do it in a party that stayed intact all night, even as players dropped in and out, like a train riding a circuit to different stations along the way. All the arguments over what we going to play next, because THERE WAS SO MUCH TO CHOOSE FROM AND IT ALL WORKED!
343i and Microsoft...face palm, face palm, face palm...
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Yup, if only we had a Custom Games Browser and Matchmaking toggles to play what we want, when we want. You'd see Halo's popularity increase if they focused on that. Imagine being able to see that a pro match is happening on the browser and jumping into it as a spectator? Imagine having a consistent server to join with a group you enjoy being around without tediously searching for people to set up Custom Games?
A CGB is necessary and is the reason why Halo isn't as popular as it could be. Someone call Conor, we'll need him to infiltrate 343 and plant the CGB seed for Halo 6.
A CGB is necessary and is the reason why Halo isn't as popular as it could be. Someone call Conor, we'll need him to infiltrate 343 and plant the CGB seed for Halo 6.