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Halo |OT 23| Thruster is Love, Thruster is Life
- Thread starter VisceralBowl
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I agree, that would be the ideal situation.
Eh, you probably would. Halo needs us more than we need them. If that's what they're going to make BTB, I'd rather go play Battlefront or Call of Duty. Sure it'll sell like hotcakes and Halo 5 is probably going to outsell every other exclusive to date, but if 4v4 arena is marginalized or has to compete with 4v4 Infinity or BTB Infinity, it's going to be Halo 4 all over again.
That perk so useless though. Nemesis right? Rest so valuable to have rather than this.
One of my fondest Halo 4 memories was using the hard light shield in close quarters to deflect a rocket back at an opponent and he kills himself...
I gotta go check if that's still saved on my Xbox 360 theater... that shit's gif worthy.
...and my near-immediate suicide with said rocket launcher mere 10 seconds later
GringoSuave89
Banned
This is the one thing that scares me the most. This damn section of the preorder pages. Everything I've seen and experience made me think that 343 saw what went wrong and that they're addressing fan concerns, but this one little bit could ruin all of it.
Honestly, I'm at the point I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop.
If you guys think you've seen the last of perks, loadouts, or killstreaks, you're kidding yourselves. It's coming. BTB is going to be enormous and ridiculous, and a lot of you are going to hate it - myself included. Pray we get more than six arena-sized maps at launch (not forge) and a few decent 4v4 playlists. I wouldn't expect any more than that.
jailbird20022
Banned
did the same with the incineration cannon, killed him and 2 others. Not sure if he quit of if he got betrayal booted but it was hilarious.
Hardlight shield was GOAT, could block tank shells head on
YourExWife
Member
Same. Methinks it's because they don't want to ruin the goodwill 4v4 arena multi-player and beta gave them. The last thing they need is perks and loadouts and some new killstreak stuff being shown and then getting several months of 'Halo is dad' posts on forums.
They've been VERY particular about their wording on arena multi-player, and VERY particular about the scope of multi-player and how there is more planned. This was deliberate in them not showing vehicles, not showing a single thing beyond 4v4. Something else is coming, and I'm not sure I'll like it.
Fata1moose
Banned
Jet packs absolutely ruined Reflection. I recall being fond of Ivory Tower split screen, but going into the MCC I had a sour taste in my mouth for the map after Reach, though that was gone after being re-acquainted with the map in Halo 2.
Computer
Member
Halo Online is a Halo 5 BTB beta test.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I fully support 343 going nuts with BTB. BTB has always been a sloppier, less refined experience and I'm cool with them trying whacky new things.
Fata1moose
Banned
Sometimes I think I'd like something new akin to Battlefield, though I also like classic BTB and the size of those games/maps. Though I'm definitely open to some change. I'd probably be happier if they changed the format of the campaign to be more open world though.
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Seriously go nuts...infinity style stuff, battlefield style, loadouts, whatever
The core team slayer needs to not have loadouts and infinity but for btb the experience has always been leashed by the more real halo multiplayer modes
BTB has always been the "real" Halo multiplayer.
I'm just kidding, play what you want to play. Although I've always thought BTB was the best part of Halo. Where's the fun without vehicles?
Fata1moose
Banned
I don't like getting in vehicles, though I sure enjoy blowing up people in vehicles. The exception to this being the Mantis, there was nothing good about the Mantis, it killed map flow.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
lmfao you know it's going to happen, but at least we have the remixes to look forward to!
The good ol' bait and switch. Can't believe Reach shipped with <10 maps..
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"That is the sound of... inevitability."
"It is the sound of your death."
"Goodbye, Mr. Anderson."
RowdyReverb
Member
I agree. Maps with a Mantis become "Whose team is best at staying indoors?" contests. I always preferred that vehicles play the role of high risk + higher reward. While it's fine for a vehicle to be a killing machine, it should also be a fun target for the opposing team to challenge.
Poodlestrike
Banned
The core problem isn't that it was too tough, it's that it was too tough for how tall it was. Nothing that can take that kind of punishment should have that kind of LoS.
I'm fine with super tough vehicles, that's the only way we'll get proper tanks.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Works both ways. The longer they wait to detail everything, the scummier it looks.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Mantis would have been cool as a really fast, but low armor vehicle.
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That's what I always thought as well. Make it quick and agile, but weak. Maybe even have the driver exposed from certain angles. It would make it both more interesting to drive and more interesting to fight against.
Poodlestrike
Banned
But see, now I'm imagining a "quick, low" mantis, and it just looks like the mini-mech from Gurren Lagann.
Also, if it's not a mech, you are describing a gungoose.
That also true. Would definitely start to feel like a Bair and switch then. But I think we'll know by E3 for sure. Won't be able to hide any outlandish things for long. The problem will be having to hear from Jem and the others how we should wait to try it, how it could be good
and how we'll still have 4v4 arena to play if not. You ideally want something that complements the game play with clear negatives for every advantage. Even then, it's still tough to balance vehicles like Scorpion or Gauss Hog in multi-player. Most human vehicles are also transport heavy or meant for map traversal. Scorpion can carry people, Warthog, Hornet, Falcon, even Mongoose. And then came the Mantis. Single person only, and before it was nerfed, it was able to move quicker than a Scorpion, had the power of a warthog chain gun, rockets that could be fired single or volley, plus it had a foot stomp that could destroy a ghost in one stomp, hit everyone within a huge radius. It essentially became a camp vehicle. Easily took more damage than even a Scorpion to destroy, while was far more versatile. Sometimes when I'd have it, I'd use my vehicle loadout that allowed for quicker recovery from pistol emp, etc. It was the antithesis to everything vehicles had been for me and I hope it doesn't come back.
Well, I was thinking keep it the same size and make it as agile as a standard spartan but faster with reduced armour.
GringoSuave89
Banned
That also true. Would definitely start to feel like a Bair and switch then. But I think we'll know by E3 for sure. Won't be able to hide any outlandish things for long. The problem will be having to hear from Jem and the others how we should wait to try it, how it could be good
I want to give 343 the benefit of the doubt, and see how it plays before anything, but it still has to be Halo. I don't want a Halo take on Battlefield, I want Halo. The changes in Arena were enough to shake things up without being a complete departure, but if worse comes to worse over BTB.... Idk man. I have a bad feeling...
Mah man
The Prototype mech suit could easily be implemented into the actual games. As you said it would need some tweaks to balance it but I think it fits Halo's sandbox (especially H5's) perfectly. Though I'd almost consider it a power up as opposed to a straight up vehicle thinking about it. You'd essentially be more of a temporary one man army. It'd probably work best in large game modes where teams could take it down with coordination. Perhaps have a light version of it and a heavy version for different game types.
Main Functions
- Chain Gun (Impedes suit movement)
- Lock on Missiles (limited?)
- Anti-Vehicle Grenade
- Enhanced thruster pack/jump pack
- Deployable Bubble Shield (breakable)
- Self detonation (?)
- Enhanced melee
Boarding the suit would be similar to the concept for boarding Hunters. The suit wouldn't have a shield and instead would have a Deployable bubble shield that can be broken (one time use maybe?). Limit the weapons on the Light suit type to a Chain gun and grenade. Heavy type has a chain gun, grenade, and lock on missiles. Give both the ability to use a heavy melee.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
A Forerunner mech you fight over as the neutral vehicle on the map. Super powerful, but with an exposed driver. When it gets destroyed, it blows up into several pieces like the Incineration Cannon.
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Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
HLS is so good, love deflecting tank rounds too.
That rocket, oh shit indeed.
BTW thanks for the CE aiming tips...how'd I do?
The Real Napsta
Member
I wish I could try it but it's not compatible with my controller scheme.HLS is so good, love deflecting tank rounds too.
That rocket, oh shit indeed.
BTW thanks for the CE aiming tips...how'd I do?
jailbird20022
Banned
my only gripe with switching to bumper jumper, can't use hardlight shield any more
jailbird20022
Banned
I think right after you pick your data center in Halo 5 you get a prompt that asks if you want want to search for warm-up/social matches (has radar) or Competitive/Ranked matches (no radar) and then from there you can choose your playlist.
We need to deeper
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Cool lol, feels good right? When I learned that it's better to aim with the outside of the reticle to lead the target instead of the center, my effectiveness with the Magnum skyrocketed. Can't tell you how many times when playing people on XBC I would be like "Jesus, RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THE RETICLE and it's not hitting! What kind of lame game is this??" It's funny, the first time I played online it was a 2v1 on Hang 'Em High. The player would get Camo every time, so he was always invisible. "Is this guy cheating??"
And here we are today hahah
The fact that we haven't had ranked matchmaking for 5 years just boggles my mind. My competitive drive has slowly died out.
Orochinagis
Member
I hope the plasma grenades will be kick out to oblivion in BTB
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
That was a lazy article. Could probably have pulled more information from random HBO forum posts.
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