wesleyshark
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This always surprises me... That there are people who have Xbox One's who don't pay for Gold. I'm sure they do actually exist, but I haven't met any so far lol.
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Halo |OT 24| In Before the Locke
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This always surprises me... That there are people who have Xbox One's who don't pay for Gold. I'm sure they do actually exist, but I haven't met any so far lol.
JumPeRJumPzZ
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From the new Gameinformer Video:
buck quips confirmed
Straight up the first level of Halo 4.From the new Gameinformer Video:
wesleyshark
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That alone is Day 1 buy.
my thoughts
ViewtifulJC
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remake???
User 73706
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Halo 5 on top. Halo 4 on bottom.
Am I delusional, or does halo 4 look superior in detail and in lighting? I know halo 5 is still unfinished at this point but... The difference is striking.
Are you kidding? No way. From a technical perspective, the H5 shot appears to have way more going on, more light sources in general, note the way the light's affecting the visor and even the top of his helmet, etc. While in Halo 4 it might be a more "natural-looking" or "smooth" light, it's using considerably less light sources and is basically just the background lighting and the single light source from the Energy Sword lighting up his whole suit.
I wasn't going to bring it up until I saw some actual in-game screens, but based on everything I've seen so far it looks like they've basically combined 4's high-level-of-detail aesthetic with the cleaner textures and brighter colors of Halo 2 Anniversary, and it looks great. The smoother armor in that H5 shot almost reminds me of Smash 4 or something.
EDIT: to clarify, beyond the lighting - there's obviously more polys and more potential for stuff going on in the H5 engine, but the reason Chief looks "less detailed" is because they deliberately dialed back a lot of the more baroque textures like scratches literally everywhere on his armor. It's a welcome choice, imo.
Orochinagis
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From the new Gameinformer Video:
Reusing assets already?
Welfare
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Oh hey, Storm Rifle.
Not a very flattering shot of Halo 5 there. Surprised they let it be released. I'd argue that the Halo 4 AR looks better.
Not sure how much of a leap you guys were expecting when they're being forced to render everything at 60fps and a higher resolution than anything on the 360, though. The Xbone isn't particularly powerful?
Not sure how much of a leap you guys were expecting when they're being forced to render everything at 60fps and a higher resolution than anything on the 360, though. The Xbone isn't particularly powerful?
User 73706
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From the new Gameinformer Video:
Anyone else notice it says "VISR LINK" on the ammo counter?
Forerunner
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ayyyy
holy shit lmao
Seriously though I'll actually wait to see it in motion before I judge.
xxANTIMONITORxx
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No argument here. With the limited amount we've seen so far, H5 doesn't look like a graphical showpiece BUT as good as H4 looked on the 360 and looks in MCC, I'll honestly be ok if graphical improvements are iterative rather than revolutionary
Is that song/overture used to close out the video available anywhere?
I remember it being used during the beta but only in videos like this
From the new Gameinformer Video:
Maybe it'd have been better to show nothing but MP until the SP showcase at the conference. First impressions etc.
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Lighting on the gun looks weird. It doesn't flow naturally between surfaces on it..
ViewtifulJC
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its the same engine, what did you think it was gonna look like lol
60fps tho
60fps tho
User 73706
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Yeah, this. It could look like 1080p60 Halo 3 for all I care, but I think Halo 4's forays into upgrading the visual fidelity of their stuff are probably going to see diminishing returns for at least another game or two. Personally, I'm glad they're sticking to roughly the same level of detail (or scaling it back with simpler textures, even) but working on improving other areas of the visual design: framerate, resolution, lighting, etc. not to mention larger environments and encounters that won't melt the game the way Halo 4's did.
I wonder what FOV it's at.
Twin Tails
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ViewtifulJC
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sniper man in his own world, follows his own rules
Orochinagis
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I dont want H4 corridors with scripted gameplay to deal with the poor IA.
Goldfishking
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That elite is hench as f**k.
I still recall people saying after the H3 Beta, "I don't see how this is next gen, it's like Halo 2.5"
Definitely a precedent here, mostly in the form of how Halo 2 and Halo 4 were able to push out so much from their respective consoles.
lybertyboy
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Bookmarking this quote for the future.
oooh. Now there is no going back folks
Looks way better than H4 to me on a technical level in every way. Lighting, tex resolution, poly detail, etc
But also need to remember this isn't final, and also 60fps vs 30fps games on previous hardware. 60fps always lowers your graphical ceiling a bit. That's just basic physics.
But also need to remember this isn't final, and also 60fps vs 30fps games on previous hardware. 60fps always lowers your graphical ceiling a bit. That's just basic physics.
JumPeRJumPzZ
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It wont look better at release... this game will be finished in what, like 3 months?
And i said many times that this will probably look better in motion.
User 73706
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Man, it's already looking like pre-rendered CGI or something. (I know it's a cutscene, but still.)
Also, for literally everyone save for Poodlestrike: "Dawn 2" just shares a similar aesthetic being a derelict UNSC object swarmed by covenant. It's basically a tutorial level, but unique in that it balances the introduction to both small-scale and large scale engagements, and based on the GameInformer article the tight-knit corridors don't make up the bulk of the level's combat areas, secret passageways / flank routes notwithstanding. It also introduces you to exponentially more of the sandbox than any other tutorial level to date, considering it uses Jackals, Elites with Energy Swords, and even a Hunter at one point. It's got a bunch of different combat rooms (think ONI), and based on the length of the encounters it sounds like the GI demo ended after taking about the same amount of time as two or three Dawns; not to mention the demo didn't necessarily end at the end of the level itself.
Some of the biggest graphical polish comes in the last two months on most games.
Just look how clean it looks, though
I'm already reminded of people saying Halo 3 looked just like Halo 2 :lol
wesleyshark
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Someone hacked MC's guns with a Glowhoo shader.
Ragnarok Flames
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Bahahahahaha
Backpedaling. Modern game Dev PR at its finest.
At least the maps are free, right. Gaiz. Is this thing on.
Twin Tails
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Take your pick. #TeamLockeChief
JumPeRJumPzZ
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Downsampled screenshots are great, arent they?
Will be interesting if they fixd that rough Aliasing and increased the Resolution.
User 73706
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Some of the biggest graphical polish comes in the last two months on most games.
Just look how clean it looks, though
I'm already reminded of people saying Halo 3 looked just like Halo 2 :lol
Yeah, this. Halo 4's bullshots looked great, but there was something really slick / shiny about them that I wasn't a huge fan of, and most of the in-game footage was visibly, well, in-game footage. All these stills from H5G are practically looking like CGI.
wesleyshark
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Take your pick. #TeamLockeChief
I'm still #TeamLocke. They all look menacing as heck. Very, very nice armor design, too.
wesleyshark
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I definitely think it'll look way better in motion, plus that it's still months away from going gold. Plenty of time to make it sing.
I was expecting PR not to just show off a recognizable corridor - something that might even need to be seen in motion. Stick to the usual camera-placed bullshots until the conference, which they otherwise have.
I mean the lighting past the gun looks nice. The elite model looks great, but it's just an underwhelming scene to show.
Well, the actual light fall-off is like... well, w/e it's a bad PR screenshot to show off. I'll leave it at that.mm.. nicer.
Must be pretty foggy in there. XD
I'm talking about the art, not graphics quality. We could be playing with stick figures and I'd be okay with it if it meant it would run at 60fps and 1080p.
ViewtifulJC
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wesleyshark
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Skittles marketing campaign confirmed.
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