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Halo |OT10| The Calm Before The Storm

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
The community wanted Action Sack, it still got deleted from Reach while a redundant 4v4 Slayer list and redundant 4-man Firefight list remain active.

Some communities get thrown under the bus, otherwise all the communities collectively go down the shitter. Just like Halo 3's matchmaking search times!

Which community wanted action sack, exactly? Shit was dumb ever since halo 2
 
The community wanted Action Sack, it still got deleted from Reach while a redundant 4v4 Slayer list and redundant 4-man Firefight list remain active.

Some communities get thrown under the bus, otherwise all the communities collectively go down the shitter. Just like Halo 3's matchmaking search times!
So 3 playlists, ffa, team, and objectives
 

Overdoziz

Banned
I honestly feel sorry for Over and Robbert. They went to First Look wanting to like the game like they saw everyone else who went to conventions do but thanks to what sounded like a horrific setup, the dudes are scarred for life.
That's just Robbert. He has never been the same since.
 
Which community wanted action sack, exactly? Shit was dumb ever since halo 2

The Action Sack community, of course

They can't give everybody a playlist, then you got a Halo Reach scenario with 20+ fuckin' playlists and different bloom settings in the same playlists.

But the FFA playlist just being Regicide is just...
 
No dedis
No custom game browser
No ranking system
No 60fps
No dropping flag/flag juggling
No sprint disabling
No text +10 disabling
No colors or terrain editing in forge
No multi-party theater viewing


yall can add more I'm going to go take some lexapro.
 

Blissful

Neo Member
No dedis
No custom game browser
No ranking system
No 60fps
No dropping flag/flag juggling
No sprint disabling
No text +10 disabling
No colors or terrain editing in forge
No multi-party theater viewing


yall can add more I'm going to go take some lexapro.

"In Halo 5, we made dramatic changes to the game. We added very unique features to the franchise, which we believe many players will enjoy"

I feel like 343 is pulling an Apple on us. Slowly giving us what we want after each title.
 

nomis

Member
No dedis
No custom game browser
No ranking system
No 60fps
No dropping flag/flag juggling
No sprint disabling
No text +10 disabling
No colors or terrain editing in forge
No multi-party theater viewing


yall can add more I'm going to go take some lexapro.

:lol in what universe were those ever on the table?
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
No dedis
No custom game browser
No ranking system
No 60fps
No dropping flag/flag juggling
No sprint disabling
No text +10 disabling
No colors or terrain editing in forge
No multi-party theater viewing


yall can add more I'm going to go take some lexapro.

Just don't buy the game then. It's gold, not much to do.
 
I have an ongoing qualm with AAs on a fundamental level. Even though it seems like Thruster is all I'll really gravitate towards, why does the game lock me into it? They barely touched the concept of swapping out AAs mid-life in Reach and it seems like it'll stay that way for 4. It just never sat easy with me that there's an element of my person that can't be changed outside of death once it's selected, that's always gone against what I know Halo to be.

Then again, I guess we're just going one step further down the rabbit hole this time with perks and whatnot. Ah well, at least Slayer Pro is a thing that exists.
 
The community wanted Action Sack, it still got deleted from Reach while a redundant 4v4 Slayer list and redundant 4-man Firefight list remain active.

Some communities get thrown under the bus, otherwise all the communities collectively go down the shitter. Just like Halo 3's matchmaking search times!

I'm so glad your not the one who decides which community to throw under a bus - In my eyes its clear that firefight and snipers 'belong' in halo more than action sack does so I support the decisions there.

I'm on my mobile now so can't really throw down a good post - but snipers has been around since halo 1 - and had a dedicated fan base since then. Action sack was hardly that great anyway - its not like bungie put fun modes into it.

Firefight is a whole different experience which deserves a 4 person mode.
 

MrDaravon

Member
It's people finding more little pointless things to complain about. I find it amusing when people complain about things because its not going to change the fact that its there. Its not like 1 day 343 was like fuck it, you can't drop the flag. No, they took a lot of time and consideration in developing what they have put in the game.

If people think that 343 is doing the things they are doing to spite you, you need to get off your soapbox. 343 is building for a larger audience than just us so attempting to cater to every possible person is impossible.

The changes that we see in Halo 4 are a product of a new developer. It was expected that there would be differences when 343 took over. Yes some of the changes or lack of things seems odd, but they have their reasons. The overwhelming majority of people on here that have played the game however like it. I think that speaks a lot for don't bash it until you play it.

Like Josh Holmes said about the leaks, he has worked on this for 3 years. The employees at 343 have poured countless hours into what looks to be a great game. Why don't we give Halo 4 a chance to release before we completely toss it back to the big salty ocean.

That is all relevant in matchmaking, and I agree at least to some extent.

However removing player control of things like sprint and flag auto-pickup in Custom Games can and should rightfully be shit on. Making custom games and gametypes, and re-making classic Halo maps has been a big thing in the community, and they are actively taking away those tools for no good reason.

Ideal but you have to keep all the stupid multiplayer achievements achievable.

If there's ONE thing I think everyone can agree on, is that at least 343 didn't fuck us with retarded multiplayer achievements like 3/ODST/Reach.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
The Action Sack community, of course

They can't give everybody a playlist, then you got a Halo Reach scenario with 20+ fuckin' playlists and different bloom settings in the same playlists.

But the FFA playlist just being Regicide is just...

Half the problem with reach (and halo 3) was keeping the maps for pay

Halo 2 had its playlists expand slightly and then compress when the maps went free

It was a beautiful system.

Ended up with too many DLC playlists on top of the "fun" modes
 
Looks like ill be getting the LE console now!!
I'll totally trade you for that unicorn emblem dawg.

If there's ONE thing I think everyone can agree on, is that at least 343 didn't fuck us with retarded multiplayer achievements like 3/ODST/Reach.
Actually, yeah, on a positive note thank god for that. So many people try to copy COD and forget that they should copy that they don't add in any ridiculous player behaviour altering achievements. There's always those DLC maps though.
 

Conor 419

Banned
Reasonable Criticisms

No dedis
No custom game browser
No sprint disabling
No colours on forge

Unreasonable Criticisms

No 60fps
No terrain editing in forge

Minor Criticisms

No text +10 disabling
No multi-party theater viewing

Criticism Based on a Lack of Information.

No ranking system
No dropping flag/flag juggling

yall can add more I'm going to go take some lexapro.

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Amazing Mic

Neo Member
Reach's launch playlist (Google'd it- no idea of it's accuracy)

Team Arena
Doubles Arena
Team Slayer
Rumble Pit
Objective
Multi Team
Invasion
BTB

Had no idea SWAT and Snipes weren't at launch. I'll just have to hope people buy into the gameplay and things expand a bit a month or two after H4 launch.
 

kylej

Banned
No dedis
No custom game browser
No ranking system
No 60fps
No dropping flag/flag juggling
No sprint disabling
No text +10 disabling
No colors or terrain editing in forge
No multi-party theater viewing


yall can add more I'm going to go take some lexapro.

um youre forgetting Forge has better lighting
 
text on screen could have been worse

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FyreWulff

Member
I'm so glad your not the one who decides which community to throw under a bus - In my eyes its clear that firefight and snipers 'belong' in halo more than action sack does so I support the decisions there.

So I show a plan that gets rid of both Action Sack AND snipers in a consolidation, so you're glad I don't make decisions because your choice would be to keep playlists that barely remain functioning because you can't separate emotions from what's needed and delete just one playlist that nobody is playing anyway. The last time I played Halo 3 Actionsack, I played games that the entire population of that playlist was in the game with me.

That kind of 'trying to please everyone' shit never works. You need to make hard decisions and have a bit of heartlessness if you ever want to effectively manage a game's online functionality. A playlist does not earn some innate right to exist forever once it's created. Look at the stats, make playlists, then get rid of them before they go completely downhill to keep the population solvent and healthy. If you really want to play gametypes from a dead playlist, customs are available.

If there's ONE thing I think everyone can agree on, is that at least 343 didn't fuck us with retarded multiplayer achievements like 3/ODST/Reach.

Interestingly, the only playlist that was locked into existence from Reach disc achievements was Invasion. Then the DLC achievements happened.
 

Conor 419

Banned
I'm sorry, but the 360 is pushing its upper limits with Halo 4 as it is, so to expect 60fps on top of this is by definition, unreasonable.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Oh I also wish I could disable all the extra medal announcer shit too

Way way way too excessive.

Considering how halo games have not been promoting community (like halo 4) I fully expect ill ear the announcements more than teammates
 

MrDaravon

Member
I'm sorry, but the 360 is pushing its upper limits with Halo 4 as it is, so to expect 60fps on top of this is by definition, unreasonable.

I think most people will agree with that.

Oh I also wish I could disable all the extra medal announcer shit too

Way way way too excessive.

Considering how halo games have not been promoting community (like halo 4) I fully expect ill ear the announcements more than teammates

Already planning on just listening to music when playing. Halo generally isn't chaotic enough to really require me to have in-game sound, although Halo 4 maybe will be different in that regard.
 
No dedis
No custom game browser
No ranking system
No 60fps
No dropping flag/flag juggling
No sprint disabling
No text +10 disabling
No colors or terrain editing in forge
No multi-party theater viewing


yall can add more I'm going to go take some lexapro.

One step forward, two steps back.
 
Gameplay decisions aside, I'm at least glad it seems like Halo 4 is channeling that magical feeling 2 and 3 had. With Halo 3 I forged like every week, did customs all the time, actively took screenshots, all of that. I utilized the entire game "sandbox" so to speak. With reach I just get on for stupid Big Team Battle and playing with GAF maybe once a month. Hopefully I'll be back to wasting my life with Halo when 4 comes out.

EDIT: can a thief/legit German show us the lighting options in forge? I mean colored orbs and stuff like in Halo 3's Sandbox/Reach forge. If we have enough tools to bathe parts of the map in dynamic colors to help alleviate the issues (especially since pieces are dynamic and white now meaning they'll absorb more light as opposed to gray) I honestly wouldn't mind being able to change object colors.
 

Skilotonn

xbot xbot xbot xbot xbot
I just got back home to see that the ViDoc is up, and the archive of the Halo 4 exhibition match is waiting for me as well.

That's an hour of Halo 4 goodness, and I'll be eating some cake with it which will taste extra special since I don't eat it that often.

Awww yeah.
 
No dedis
No custom game browser
No ranking system
No 60fps
No dropping flag/flag juggling
No sprint disabling
No text +10 disabling
No colors or terrain editing in forge
No multi-party theater viewing

Edit:

No spectator mode
No commentating broadcast thinger
No livestreaming from console
No upload to Youtube

Knew I was forgetting stuff.
 

Caja 117

Member
There were really people who thought sprint could be disabled?

It is now a basic move like meleeing, I thought it was a given that it couldn't

Welll, I don't know, maybe when you are told there is going to be a CLASSIC playlist, you are expecting to have CLASSIC settings, I fail to see how a Halo game with Sprint can be considered Classic Settings.

Halo 4 is going to be a great FPS game but a bad Halo game.
 
No dedis
No custom game browser
No ranking system
No 60fps
No dropping flag/flag juggling
No sprint disabling
No text +10 disabling
No colors or terrain editing in forge
No multi-party theater viewing

Edit:

No spectator mode
No commentating broadcast thinger
No livestreaming from console
No upload to Youtube

Knew I was forgetting stuff.


Elites are Mammals now.
 

Satchel

Banned
Why would you want to disable sprint?

Then again, I now play SWAT exclusively on Reach so I guess I'm not the best judge.

Really hope Team Doubles comes back. 2 vs 2 is so much fun. It's actually got me playing CoD again. Something CoD actually took from Halo no?
 
No dedis
No custom game browser
No ranking system
No 60fps
No dropping flag/flag juggling
No sprint disabling
No text +10 disabling
No colors or terrain editing in forge
No multi-party theater viewing


yall can add more I'm going to go take some lexapro.

1. No shit.
2. No shit, but it would be nice.
3. I'm with you there.
5. No shit.
6. Personally don't care, I'd try it out first, people who played it really liked the change from what I've seen.
7. Unlike Reach, this game was designed around sprint.
8. Minor inconvenience, not a game changer by any means. People who played it said it was barely noticeable. Still think its a bit silly though.
9. I still think changing shades alone won't make it look better 95 percent of the time. What they should have offered is different looking textures/object types. Terrain editing would have been nice, but get real.
10. What do you need this for? Honest question, just haven't thought any use for it.
 
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