From left to right: Jetpack, Thruster, Camo, Hologram, Hardlight, Sentry, Promethean, Regen
It's like halfway through they said "Fuck it, let's just copy the rest" :lol
That is fucking ridiculous.
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Halo |OT10| The Calm Before The Storm
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That is fucking ridiculous.
Cat and Mouse is played with Wraiths!
I rest my case.
Hydranockz
Member
There is totally a cost. Great job thinking throwing more employees is the solution. The cost comes directly from the very limited hardware. Throw in all those features? Plenty of them will either run like shit or have piss poor depth. The 360 has limited space, limited RAM, limited everything. Infinite resources making features does not translate to infinite features on the 360. Look at how every 360 port of a game that is also on PC (or ask Letters) sacrifices something to run on old hardware. At least with PC gaming, the hardware market is expanding far more regularly. Consoles are limited to the optimisation that the devs can get out of it.
Hire Juices, he knows one half of his arguments.
As far as the default Halo 4 experience, sprint and not being able to drop the flag is fine. But it's very surprising that 343 included no options to make classic Halo. Then again, Bungie wouldn't let us turn off bloom so...
One more small complaint. The white text is a non issue guys... Seriously. What's more disconcerting is I relied on the white text more than the medals. The medals all look way too similar. They all have the same color scheme. Like I couldn't tell you what the killing spree medal looks like in Halo 4.
One more small complaint. The white text is a non issue guys... Seriously. What's more disconcerting is I relied on the white text more than the medals. The medals all look way too similar. They all have the same color scheme. Like I couldn't tell you what the killing spree medal looks like in Halo 4.
But a wraith would take up like the whole width of meltdown
And I just thought... Maybe it should be 3v3. That way there's someone to distract the mantis on offensive
Jellycrackers
Member
I'm with this guy.
So your issue lies with Microsoft and their budget for halo 4, not 343.
Jellycrackers
Member
This guy, too.
A lot of people are excited, but it's only human nature to have "sibling jealously" with new features for one group and others not getting what they wanted.
Except for the whole ranking thing which drove the popularity of H2/3 up and drove reach into the ground
Im in semi disbelief. I get that there's things that people used that are missing but seriously, supplemental stuff that i barely ever looked at. Give me good weapons good graphics and good map design. Oh noes i cant set the game to make me a pot of coffee every 3 games and update my twitter every time i get a headshot!! Who gives a fuck. Game looks awesome.
thezerofire
Banned
the BTS was really good, but I still can't buy into the CTF changes. Not at least until I've played it. Flag running was too much of a part of what CTF was for me for that.
I highly doubt that having a custom option to remove sprint and have Flag dropping could had pushed the boundaries of the XBOX 360 hardware. but, Im no System Engineer.....
Hydranockz
Member
xxjuicesxx
Member
O really does the 360 have limited RAM? Please tell me about that because I have no idea how anything works!
I don't think their popularity was put solely down to ranking systems (although I agree Reach's approach went in the wrong direction).
Reach came out at a time when there were much more options available to 360 players, and it tried to compete with games like CoD in various ways. When Halo 2 (and even 3) were in their prime, nothing really came close to what they did online (on consoles anyway). Sure, CoD4 was around a few months after Halo 3, but the fever didn't really kick in until MW2 swung around.
Long story short; Reach was a great game, but failed to capture what people want these days out of an MP game. Plus it pissed off a bunch of H2/3 fans.
Hydranockz
Member
Sorry, lemme hire more people so I can better answer you.
Ice Lightning
Member
Has anything been announced as to when Spartan Ops missions will be released each week? Seeing as the release date is a Tuesday, I would assume that's when SpOps missions can be accessed weekly.
Everyone on one team starts in Mantises and the other team has no vehicles and has Rockets and Splazers. The team in the mantises can't get out and also have over shields and only 1 life each. After all of the Mantises are dead the round ends and they switch sides. The team who survives the longest in the mantises wins the game. And every time the Mantises get a kill it adds 10 seconds to their survival time.
Or it can be switched where the team with the Splazers and Rockets have over shields and have to survive against the Mantises and every time they kill a Mantis they add 20 seconds to there survival time.
From left to right: Jetpack, Thruster, Camo, Hologram, Hardlight, Sentry, Promethean, Regen
It's like halfway through they said "Fuck it, let's just copy the rest" :lol
Or because the last 4 are promethean and there isn't really much you can do with them.
I went from playing halo 2 all the time
To playing halo 3 all the time
Then reach for a week
Then nothing...
It's kinda hard for people to think their criticism can construct much of anything when the game has already gone gold, and 343i assures everyone that changes were only made after careful deliberation.
Why does it have to be either/or? Jesus, this whole Saltminer vs. D Slurper dichotomy is the stupidest shit I've ever heard.
I'm hyped beyond fuck for this game. Campaign, Multi, Spartan Ops, in that order. Why isn't that allowed to coexist with the fact that I find some of these changes boneheaded, even without trying them myself? Specifically classic flag usage, red X's over teammates, and actually much less importantly, disabling sprint. I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting. I fully accept that 343 is trying to leave their own stamp on their matchmaking multiplayer, and I actually think their design philosophy will make for a fun experience once I try it. HOWEVER, the decision to not keep these legacy aspects in as an option in custom games is completely asinine, and nothing will convince me otherwise. Halo pioneered custom options on console.
Here's hoping for some kind of patch before the new year.
*high-fives you* SERIOUSLY, all fuckers do is complain complain complain on videogame forums, it's like "why don't you get a new hobby if you think there's something wrong with a videogame?"
xxjuicesxx
Member
Meh it lies with not enough upgrades being present, not enough options. The fact I can't play it on better hardware. The fact I'm pretty sure this Halo is going to be more of the same very quickly.
I never had the privilege of experiencing Halo 2 online (I was a PS2 kid), but I've played more than my fair share of Halo 3 MP.
Reach... maybe 10, 12 hours tops. It's a shame because I thought the campaign was brilliant (and beautiful!), if not a bit cliche at times.
Hydranockz
Member
Plenty of HaloGaf played this game religiously for it's lifespan (maybe vut the last 5 months off).
Shake Appeal, Blueblur and Zeouterlimits are the only people I can think of that really haven't played the game a whole lot, besides yourself of course.
I know Ghaleon was never really into the MP but he has plenty of FF picture stories.
The reason why we complain is because we want 343 to succeed. We want halo 4 to be an untouchable experience.
We WANT to throw our money at them.
Some aspects makes sense. Some don't. Community drives everything.
We want every type of player to pick up the game and be in love.
lol I swear everyone, there aren't THAT many open vacancies for employment at 343, don't try too hard to be the most outraged over people criticizing the fact that the Halo series' design has stagnated and the handful of people here who want better design and better features (who, puzzlingly enough, aren't playing a different game at this point) have to wait another few years to play the "did this simple functionality change that I've been waiting years for make it in?" lottery
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Did that EGL place ever play the game?
TWD starting tonight makes Halo 4 come that much faster :]
TWD starting tonight makes Halo 4 come that much faster :]
Phalanx
Offense starts with the Oddball and Hardlight shields. Jumping disabled.
Offense (Ball team): DMR, BR, 2x Frag Grenade
Defense (protecting the cap point): Sniper Rifle, Explodey Attachy Pistol Thing
Offense must take the ball (which awards no points for being held) to a cap point and then defend it for ____ seconds to capture. Making it across the map requires offense to coordinate their hardlight wall to block shots. Ball carrier has really fast shield regen.
And don't try to hard yourself to get your panties in a twist over some bleep bloop bleeps in a video game.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
The anti-backlash force has arrived and formed up like mothafuckin' VOLTRON in this thread
Xbox 3 doesn't exist so not sure what you mean by better hardware. PC version? that would rock but I'm not sure why anyone would be expecting that. MS killed PC halo long ago.
Also, Reach was an entirely different game compared to conventional Halo and the series lost a lot of fans because it tarnished the core gameplay Halo was famous for.
343 created new enemies, new gametypes, new enemies, new storyline, instated many fixes for the crucial problems that Reach had.
If your problem is that it "looks like Halo," what exactly did you want from Halo 4?
Welp, I've already watched that new ViDoc about 4 times. It's a pretty sweet one, lots of stuff to take in. One thing I didn't even catch until like the last time I watched it was when David was talking about Spartan Ops and mentioned how players in some cases might even have a direct impact on what happens in the following week's episode. I'm curious to find out what way they could do something like that.
that bodes well for halo 4
I would've played the game already but there are no conventions in my neck of the woods and I can't afford to fly anywhere.
I don't doubt that the game will be fun. I'm just supremely irritated by all the things they've omitted. I liked using the Falcon and the Revenant, I really enjoyed the grenade launcher, I want to be able to play Juggernaut and 3-Plots and Assault, I want to be able to place power-ups in Forge, and I liked being able to go into a playlist and play a large swath of maps and game types. Unfortunately, I won't be able to play with those vehicles and weapons and I can't do any of those other things in Halo 4.
That's what grinds my gears.
I don't doubt that the game will be fun. I'm just supremely irritated by all the things they've omitted. I liked using the Falcon and the Revenant, I really enjoyed the grenade launcher, I want to be able to play Juggernaut and 3-Plots and Assault, I want to be able to place power-ups in Forge, and I liked being able to go into a playlist and play a large swath of maps and game types. Unfortunately, I won't be able to play with those vehicles and weapons and I can't do any of those other things in Halo 4.
That's what grinds my gears.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Its just you'll play another 400 games of that next Halo. While I'll have knocked that out in the first couple weeks. I'll go onto playing the game 15 times as much as you, then you ask me why I want better things for my Halo. Ask me why I bitch about this game.
BlueScrote
Member
About 200 Pages into First Strike and I'm really enjoying it. It finally shed's some light on how
. Also like the references to the biofoam whihc I just realized is used in ODST. I also liked the way they introduced the H2 pistol and the BR. The use of engineers in Fall of Reach and First Strike is also kind of cool since they only appear in ODST.
Johnson made it off of the original Halo
ArbiterMajor
Member
My third fav track!
I'm okay with the criticism, I just love a good debate.
Rickenslacker
Banned
I'm of the opinion that people can slurp or debbie down as much or as intensely as they want, but the moment it starts being separate from the game and projected onto eachother then it gets stupid.
Side 1: I dislike that (simple feature or functionality change) was not included because players have complained for years spanning multiple games about it not being present
Side 2: There are other games available to play, why don't you play one of those if you don't like this one? Actually, if you're so smart, why don't you make your own?
Hydranockz
Member
It's just a videogame man. You don't have to play something you find incredibly flawed and mediocre. You will though.
Hire juices.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Its when it gets personal that it pisses me off. If i respond to your criticisms of the game with counterpoints and you tell me to change my attitude, its obviously not me who needs the change in attitude.