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[User 73706]

No dedis
No custom game browser
No ranking system
No 60fps
No dropping flag/flag juggling
No sprint disabling
No text +10 disabling
No colors or terrain editing in forge
No multi-party theater viewing

Edit:

No spectator mode
No commentating broadcast thinger
No livestreaming from console
No upload to Youtube

Knew I was forgetting stuff.

No Chopper or Falcon
No Bungie
No steaks
No Kinect functionality
No button combos
No native 1080p with 16x FXAA
No retailer-exclusive weapons
No on-disc DLC
No Siege of Madrigal
No Martin O'Conservadonnell
No The Pit
No Waterworks (map)
No hope

 

[Homeboyd]

Clans/groups. Is it a thing?

 

[Rickenslacker]

No hope

No heroes left in man

 

[xxjuicesxx]

1. No shit.
2. No shit.
3. I'm with you there.
5. No shit.
6. Personally don't care, I'd try it out first, people who played it really liked the change from what I've seen.
7. Unlike Reach, this game was designed around sprint.
8. Minor inconvenience, not a game changer by any means. People who played it said it was barely noticeable. Still think its a bit silly though.
9. I still think changing shades alone won't make it look better 95 percent of the time. What they should have offered is different looking textures/object types. Terrain editing would have been nice, but get real.
10. What do you need this for? Honest question, just haven't thought any use for it.

Tons of games do tons of these things. Please remove your Good Enough™ attitude from your attitude store. Thank you.

No customizable controller configs.
No X/Y sensitivities differentiation.

 

[Plywood]

TIRO A LA CABEZA +10

Oh wait...

¿DONDE ES CLASICO HALO?

¿!DONDE!?

 

[Caja 117]

No dedis
No custom game browser
No ranking system
No 60fps
No dropping flag/flag juggling
No sprint disabling
No text +10 disabling
No colors or terrain editing in forge
No multi-party theater viewing

Edit:

No spectator mode
No commentating broadcast thinger
No livestreaming from console
No upload to Youtube

Knew I was forgetting stuff.

At least you have skins for your BR.

 

[FyreWulff]

Why would you want to disable sprint?

So people can remake old maps that they should stop remaking instead of making spiritual successors actually designed for the game they're playing.

Shouldn't be hard for anyone creative to make a Lockout-style map for sprint.

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

Tons of games do tons of these things. Please remove your Good Enough™ attitude from your attitude store. Thank you.

No customizable controller configs.
No X/Y sensitivities differentiation.

Or maybe you should remove your entitled to everything attitude from yours.

 

[kittens]

Clans/groups. Is it a thing?

So says expert zone. I reallllly hope it's in the game still. Could be amazing.

 

[Redford]

Return of the double EXP weekends to keep that dead weight off the hoppers would be awesome.

Snipers was more fun when it was for a LTO.

 

[Amazing Mic]

Really hope Team Doubles comes back. 2 vs 2 is so much fun. It's actually got me laying CoD again. Something CoD actually took from Halo no?

I'm really interested in seeing how new playlists are implemented after launch. This is the first time I've really had to go down the road of waiting for a gametype- particularly for something I consider to be "core" Halo.

I hate harping on it though.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Or maybe you should remove your entitled to everything attitude from yours.

You're right I should settle for a mediocre product and just shut up and pay my money. I as the consumer have no right to let people know what I want. I do remember learning that in my business classes thanks for the course refresher.

 

[Tunavi]

No dedis
No custom game browser
No ranking system
No 60fps
No dropping flag/flag juggling
No sprint disabling
No text +10 disabling
No colors or terrain editing in forge
No multi-party theater viewing

Edit:

No spectator mode
No commentating broadcast thinger
No livestreaming from console
No upload to Youtube

Knew I was forgetting stuff.

Only 2 of these have to do with Gameplay.

Good Job 343.

 

[Shadders]

Surely there's settings to adjust sprint speed though? Couldn't you just slow it down to be the same or slower than normal walking speed?

 

[heckfu]

Only 2 of these have to do with Gameplay.

Good Job 343.

Dude, didn't you hear? It's shit on 343 day.

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

You're right I should settle for a mediocre product and just shut up and pay my money. I as the consumer have no right to let people know what I want. I do remember learning that in my business classes thanks for the course refresher.

So the other halos were mediocre? Sure, a lot of other games have some of that stuff. But Halo 4 has a shitload of stuff that other games don't have. Name a console game that has everything you mentioned plus all the features that Halo 4 has, then you got me.

 

[Satchel]

So people can remake old maps that they should stop remaking instead of making spiritual successors actually designed for the game they're playing.

Shouldn't be hard for anyone creative to make a Lockout-style map for sprint.

So has this Grampa simpson segment of Halo GAF always been around? Or have Reach and 4 created them?

Move on people.

 

[Steelyuhas]

Half the problem with reach (and halo 3) was keeping the maps for pay

Halo 2 had its playlists expand slightly and then compress when the maps went free

It was a beautiful system.

Ended up with too many DLC playlists on top of the "fun" modes

Hopefully with a smaller playlist set and a season pass model, more people will have DLC and the implementation will work decently with larger populations.

Reach's launch playlist (Google'd it- no idea of it's accuracy)

Team Arena
Doubles Arena
Team Slayer
Rumble Pit
Objective
Multi Team
Invasion
BTB

Had no idea SWAT and Snipes weren't at launch. I'll just have to hope people buy into the gameplay and things expand a bit a month or two after H4 launch.

Difference was the Reach populations had 100 different gametypes with each one. SWAT and Snipers were in Team Slayer.

The lack of SWAT was the only surprise on the playlists (one that I'm okay with, although I assume we'll see it at some point, SWAT is just too popular).

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Jesus christ, it's like everyone hit their period at the same time today or some shit.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Only 2 of these have to do with Gameplay.

Good Job 343.

I count more than 2...

 

[Caja 117]

So the other halos were mediocre? Sure, a lot of other games have some of that stuff. But Halo 4 has a shitload of stuff that other games don't have. Name a console game that has everything you mentioned plus all the features that Halo 4 has, then you got me.

A lot of features or gimmicks in a shooting based game doesn't mean the game is going to be good.

 

[FyreWulff]

Hopefully with a smaller playlist set and a season pass model, more people will have DLC and the implementation will work decently with larger populations.


Difference was the Reach populations had 100 different gametypes with each one. SWAT and Snipers were in Team Slayer.

The lack of SWAT was the only surprise on the playlists (one that I'm okay with, although I assume we'll see it at some point, SWAT is just too popular).

MantiSWAT. Everyone spawns in a Mantis. With no shields.

I'm not sure I've thought this one through.

 

[Fuchsdh]

I see we have a junior applicant for the Kylej scholarship award for Team Downer.

No one is forcing you to buy or play the game guys.

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

Jesus christ, it's like everyone hit their period at the same time today or some shit.

This is internet.

A lot of features or gimmicks in a shooting based game doesn't mean the game is going to be good.

So are you agreeing with me?

 

[Fracas]

Some people like the game, and they're excited for the changes

Some people don't like the game, and they think the changes suck

They're locked in an eternal struggle. No one wins.

 

[Orochinagis]

Jesus christ, it's like everyone hit their period at the same time today or some shit.

There will be blood here. lol


My bad, sorry

 

[nomis]

No Waterworks (map)

Ah, yes.

 

[Tunavi]

I count more than 2...

Sprint and flag dropping. If you want to count dedi's that's 3, but I count that towards the game's infrastructure, not core gameplay.

Yes, I want 60 FPS halo too, but this game is looking damn good. Its looking like the best Halo game to come out since 2004. You're just complaining about stuff that would cost a lot more development time to implement, more so than what would be profitable. If they put everything from your list into the game, that would be awesome, but just simply a ridiculous. You're asking for an unreal amount of content. Its just a videogame.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Orochinagis, delete your post now

Spoilers are not welcome in this thread.

 

[Caja 117]

I see we have a junior applicant for the Kylej scholarship award for Team Downer.

No one is forcing you to buy or play the game guys.

Is about me? You are as a big a Junior as I am, there is only 3 month of difference in join date, I just don't post a lot, not to mention, I have been called that i was a addition to team SLRP. Funny how you are condemned around here.

And To be honest, I don't hate the game, but why would someone just accept and be happy about everything? this isnt a perfect game, and not criticizing anything about it is worst than Criticizing everything about it

 

[Reagan's BR]

Nothing too crazy, although it does taste like I am gaining levels quicker already.

Haha

Looks like ill be getting the LE console now!!

Jealous.

Only reason I'm getting the console is because ill need know for my living room and bedroom and it just makes sense.

New console will probably be out next year though. You'd better not bail on midnight with me. Actually we don't even know if they will be open yet.

 

[op_ivy]

Jesus christ, it's like everyone hit their period at the same time today or some shit.

this place can be pretty unbearable at times.

 

[Jellycrackers]

... not criticizing anything about it is worst than Criticizing everything about it

That is an opinion.

 

[Ryaaan14]

I wonder how many people HaloGAF is going to lose with all this doom & gloom.

Probably none.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I wonder how many people HaloGAF is going to lose with all this doom & gloom.

Probably none.

Most definitely none.

 

[DopeyFish]

Ways to engage community:

If you use your headset and not enter a party chat, you get a % more spartan points or XP

Ranking system

Clan system with tournaments (across all competitive playlists) and spectator mode! Whoever wins gets a fancy new armor set! (1 of say... 5... Make it hard to get)

Player of the day... Whoever is the top player of the day gets a fancy new armor set! (I would never earn this) as well as shown off on the mp menu...

Return to pay then free system on maps (so people will come back to the game)

Some sort of community run forge playlist with voting. If your map gets chosen to go into rotation, you get a new armor set!

The halo highlight reel. Players submit movie clips of what they consider their craziest sequence. At end of week... It goes to fan voting. (Using streaming video) Those with the plays of the week get a new armor set!

Ummm

I can't think of anything else

Sry just thinking how no one talks in halo anymore kinda got me started on this. Armor sets to me would work... But probably if the initial selection was more limiting IMO

Credit bonus isn't good incentive. Uniqueness is, though.

 

[Caja 117]

So are you agreeing with me?

To a certain point.

That is an opinion.

Around here is a fact because you have developers posting here so, most of this "Happy about everything" is to make an impression on the employees of 343.

 

[BlueScrote]

What was the reasoning behind no BRs in ODST?

 

[zap]

The BTS was awesome, I don't agree with some of their decisions on paper, I hope I get used to CTF changes and learn to like it.

 

[Ken]

Ways to engage community:

If you use your headset and not enter a party chat, you get a % more spartan points or XP

Ranking system

Clan system with tournaments (across all competitive playlists) and spectator mode! Whoever wins gets a fancy new armor set! (1 of say... 5... Make it hard to get)

Player of the day... Whoever is the top player of the day gets a fancy new armor set! (I would never earn this) as well as shown off on the mp menu...

Return to pay then free system on maps (so people will come back to the game)

Some sort of community run forge playlist with voting. If your map gets chosen to go into rotation, you get a new armor set!

The halo highlight reel. Players submit movie clips of what they consider their craziest sequence. At end of week... It goes to fan voting. (Using streaming video) Those with the plays of the week get a new armor set!

Ummm

I can't think of anything else

Sry just thinking how no one talks in halo anymore kinda got me started on this. Armor sets to me would work... But probably if the initial selection was more limiting IMO

Credit bonus isn't good incentive. Uniqueness is, though.

Players can award other players with "thumbs up" points for pleasant matches, good teamwork, and helpfulness. Accumulate enough "thumbs up" points and get cosmetic rewards. Spamming "thumbs up" points or trading them can get your points wiped or other terrible things.

Get 1000000 "thumbs up" points and unlock the Thumbs Up animated Spartan portrait for pre-game lobbies.

 

[heckfu]

New console will probably be out next year though. You'd better not bail on midnight with me. Actually we don't even know if they will be open yet.

I looked online and cant find anything. For Halo 3 I went to the Best Buy on 31...may have to do that again which is fine.

 

[Jellycrackers]

Around here is a fact because you have developers posting here so, most of this "Happy about everything" is to make an impression on the employees of 343.

... no. I'm happy with what I've seen because I love Halo and I'm not very critical about video games. It doesn't matter who is posting here.

Just relax, dude.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Sprint and flag dropping. If you want to count dedi's that's 3, but I count that towards the game's infrastructure, not core gameplay.

Yes, I want 60 FPS halo too, but this game is looking damn good. Its looking like the best Halo game to come out since 2004. You're just complaining about stuff that would cost a lot more development time to implement, more so than what would be profitable. If they put everything from your list into the game, that would be awesome, but just simply a ridiculous. You're asking for an unreal amount of content. Its just a videogame.

Profitable? There isn't any way or outcome that exists in this universe where Halo 4 wouldn't be profitable.

If you increased the amount of employees that all my options were implemented (ok maybe not 60fps) but everything else. You would still have a much better, still profitable H4.

 

[nomis]

No one is forcing you to buy or play the game guys.

You're mischaracterizing the relationship here. The disgruntled ones here aren't saying "Game looks complete shit, I shouldn't pay money for this", they're disappointed that things they appreciate are being omitted. Of course they're gonna buy the game, they're halo fans. It's not that they don't think it's a quality production that will still be worth getting, but they're still allowed to be disappointed. It's not like "going back to halo 3"['s net code, core gunplay and player base] is something especially viable either if they want things that experience gave them.

Wishes for options of "more classic gameplay" or "more MLG like gameplay" shouldn't be responded to with GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON, it's a different way to play, a preference, just like Grifball or Infection are. Yet 343 is excising important elements that made balanced and teamwork oriented gameplay work. Like disabling sprint or enabling dead teammate indicators or enabling classic flag behavior. Let alone bonus features that would actually dip into their development budget like dedicated servers or a spectator mode.

 

[FyreWulff]

Mantis War

Two teams start on opposite sides of the map. Offense must escort their Mantis across the map to capture points that only the Mantis can capture. Each capture upgrades the Mantis Driver's shields/health (which don't regen) and upgrades the loadouts of their escorts and drops a weapon on the capture point.

Defense wins by holding back the Mantis team from capturing all 5 points. Every time offense loses their mantis, someone is randomly chosen to be the new driver and gets spawned into a new one, and lose an upgrade level. Smarter teams will be more conservative with the Mantis and let the other players be the forward team, while other teams may attempt to have the Mantis carry the weight, trading upgrades away for speed of captures.

Two 5 minute rounds, BR/AR start, no PP, Mantis escorts get Hardlights and Sentries, defense chooses between Boost and Hologram.

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

You're mischaracterizing the relationship here. The disgruntled ones here aren't saying "Game looks complete shit, I shouldn't pay money for this", they're disappointed that things they appreciate are being omitted. It's not that they don't think it's a quality production that will still be worth getting, but they're still allowed to be disappointed. It's not like "going back to halo 3['s net code, core gunplay and player base] is something especially viable either if they want things that experience gave them.

Wishes for options of "more classic gameplay" or "more MLG like gameplay" shouldn't be responded to with GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON, it's just a different way to play, a preference, just like Grifball or Infection are. Yet 343 is excising important elements that made balanced and teamwork oriented gameplay work. Like disabling sprint or enabling dead teammate indicators. Let alone bonus features that would actually dip into their development budget like dedicated servers or a spectator mode.

There's constructive criticism and then there's whining. And then there's speculation and whining about that speculation, which is the worst. It's not hard to see that this thread has a lot of all of these in it.

 

[Reagan's BR]

I looked online and cant find anything. For Halo 3 I went to the Best Buy on 31...may have to do that again which is fine.

Yeah I don't think they've finalized the stores yet. My LE is preordered at 280 but if they don't open I'll just wait. I didn't even know they had a store on 31.

 

[Caja 117]

... no. I'm happy with what I've seen because I love Halo and I'm not very critical about video games. It doesn't matter who is posting here.

Just relax, dude.

That's why I said most, there can be exceptions like yourself.

 

[Cow]

Halo is lost without visible skill based ranking system.

 

[Doodis]

I just want Frankie/Ellis and the rest of 343 to know that there are a lot of people still hyped for the game. I'm personally amazed at all the cry baby tears being shed here. It's kind of pathetic.

Game looks awesome. Can't wait to play it.

/slrp