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Halo |OT10| The Calm Before The Storm
- Thread starter GhaleonEB
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Steelyuhas
Member
Well the situation exists with Halo 3.
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I think I might play some H3 right now, it's been a long time.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
If we do some kind of league, I'm gonna request a 3-to-4-month sabbatical from Halo 4's release date. Wait until we're all bored of playing the same few maps and gametypes and we want to mix it up a bit.
Reagan's BR
Banned
It ended about six months after it started.
It's easy to say something stupid like that knowing you will never have to follow through with it.
Those cats are too awesome, and I hate cats!
It wasn't that bad....like 2 and half.
Still pretty bad lol
edit: Depending on what we do for the next HaloGAF "event", is there anyone that just can't/won't do a league? I'm not going to exclude anyone that wants to play. I'm completely happy regardless of what we end up doing.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah. Not gonna like that next time, one way or another.
How come he don't want me man?
If there is going to be a league, the first "season" could be this or a random assignment based of geography.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
But that makes balancing teams impossible.
I'd love to do a league but my schedule is about to turn wonky.
I understand what your saying and I don't think it is as simple as "people can't enjoy the game without a visual rank". I feel its more along the lines of the game would be just that much more fun with visual ranks.
Granted, you have also stated that you want visual ranks. I think where I slightly disagree with your point is when you state that gameplay rules all. (even though I think gameplay is very very very important for a good game, kinda goes without saying) Games like counterstrike and unreal tournament have amazing gameplay but are lacking in how players get into games with each other. When I tried to get into counterstrike a year ago I found it impossible to try and get started. No matter what server I joined I seemed to always be facing players with much more experience than myself. After getting shafted for about 20 games I simply gave up on trying to play counterstrike. I consider myself a competitive player and not having the chance to even be competitive with other players was extremely frustrating.
Halo 4 doesn't need visual ranks to match players of equal skill together, but, I would have found it reassuring if they were included. As of right now we have been told that players will be matched based on skill but other than that we have very little details on the how. This concerns me. Wouldn't it make much more sense to give the halo community an in depth explanation of how players are matched together when the system is invisible to the player, than to give us an explanation of the progression system that lies in plain sight.
I could be worried for absolutely no reason about the matchamking system. It's just the lack of details so close to launch do not inspire confidence.
User 73706
Banned
We could do a GOLDEN SHOWERS reboot. Call it GOLDEN STALLS or SILVER LININGS.
No shields, everyone gets bottomless clip binary rifles, no radar, everyone gets good camo + Stealth and Dexterity packages, 300% jump height, 90% gravity, 150% movement speed.
Oh, and it's all Oddball on Abandon.
Balance shouldn't be a concern for a league, just like RL, there are power house teams, the chance of upsets and spoilers is what makes it interesting.
Swarmer, I agree with you mostly, thanks for the level headed response. One thing to note is that PC games can't really be compared to consoles because you're comparing servers to MM.
This would probably be the easiest way to do it.
Then you wouldn't have to randomize teams or worry about teams getting stacked.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
That's a problem though because the skill distribution is skewed. There are some good players here, and they all most likely end up on the same teams, which makes sense.
So you'll have what 2, maybe 3 top tier teams with the best players. The other teams would pretty much loose every game against the best teams, with their only competition being the other best teams. And having the majority of teams competing for, at best, third or forth overall place isn't that fun or motivating.
The best way to do it, in terms of balance, is arranging teams based on skill, but that's significantly less fun than playing with your buddies. Balance is important. No one wants to compete for something they know from the start they don't stand a chance of winning.
So damm awkward to organise these things.
Great episode
Yeah, that's the main problem with letting people form their own teams. We'd have 3-4 superteams that would be the only contenders for the championship. There's nothing wrong with playing with guys you know, but having those superteams could really make the tournament not as enjoyable for many people.
Ah balls. Noted.
Now let's see if I still have my old stats documents.
Just wait for the Sword Base remake.
Gaming Age Invitational League?
Blue Ninja
Member
Anyone have a hi-res didact logo? The largest I have is 100 px or so, and I could do with something bigger.
How about pairs? You get to choose one other person to play with. Then the other pair that you are matched up with is based on skill. The biggest downside is that top-tier players might be dragged down by the other pair.
Maybe do two different tournaments, one where people pick teams, and the other not? For the random one maybe it could be balanced by having everyone who wants to play participate in one FFA match full of GAFers, then make balanced teams based on those results if that makes sense.
User 73706
Banned
I would say go in this route, except make it a mentor system. Have the pro pick their bk of choice and teach them the ways of Halo 4. Mentor + bk get matched up with another mentor + bk.
By this logic Dax would have to adopt me because of my pro pipe affinity, but then I'd offer to protect him with the Mantis and he would promptly disown me.
I'd prefer this.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
I think you might have missed the point of the post...
I never got the whole "copy cod" thing, there will be certain elements that are always similar in games that are used for the common good or what a majority of the gaming community likes. People seem to forget that gaming isn't some taboo thing done by the hardcore crowd now but something that a big blockbuster and is casual. I can't say much about Halo 4 since I've only seen countless gameplay and impressions from various people but it does get kinda of old.
Props to those in the CoD community though that don't complain when they get features that Halo started (could be wrong in some, but made big by) on console first like: ranks, theater, online stats, etc. They seem to welcome them with open arms.
That my 2 cents on it.
Props to those in the CoD community though that don't complain when they get features that Halo started (could be wrong in some, but made big by) on console first like: ranks, theater, online stats, etc. They seem to welcome them with open arms.
That my 2 cents on it.
Blue Ninja
Member
Mentor+BK isn't great. What Ram is trying to get at is that he likes playing with Captain Blood or Trasher. Those two are definitely not BKs and neither is Ram. It would be pretty unfair to say that he can't play with them because he has to be paired with Ryan or Shadow. That's why I say form your pair, rank your pair, and pair the pairs. When a "season" is over, reassign skills to the pairs, maybe switch up the pairs, and start over again.
I don't mean this to be offensive, but your system was very, very weak. I have quite a few players full stats, but it is nowhere near complete. Especially with all of the new juniors since April.
dangerbyrnes
Member
complete and utter failure in the Giantbomb stream. lol.
they got stuck in an infinite checkpoint loop.
they got stuck in an infinite checkpoint loop.
I like this idea. I need to think and discuss everything with kittens.
I'm going to refrain from disclosing details in the thread for awhile. We had this problem last time; trying to hammer out details in a public forum doesn't work, you can't please everyone.
We'll post updates but for now it'd probably be best to quietly plan. We'll take all opinions/ideas/personal schedules into account when doing this though.
I obviously haven't played it, but right now I'm definitely against Infinity Slayer for a tourney/league. I just don't see it as competitively viable for what we're wanting to do.
Yoink
2v2
No random teams
Mix of Infinity Slayer and Slayer Pro, or just Infinity Slayer
Best of 3/5 per match
Separate North American and European Leagues
Solace, Haven, Abandon and maybe Relay
You have one week to complete your match and report back
8 match season
Top 8 teams make playoffs based on record. Any ties in record to go 1 game playoff.
This is just off the top of my head so feel free to pick it apart and offer suggestions. Figured someone would need to get it started.
No random teams
Mix of Infinity Slayer and Slayer Pro, or just Infinity Slayer
Best of 3/5 per match
Separate North American and European Leagues
Solace, Haven, Abandon and maybe Relay
You have one week to complete your match and report back
8 match season
Top 8 teams make playoffs based on record. Any ties in record to go 1 game playoff.
This is just off the top of my head so feel free to pick it apart and offer suggestions. Figured someone would need to get it started.
This part is brilliant.
Exactly. You look at the schedule and you're like, "week 2 is easy, 3 is tough, we definitely gotta win this one". Would be fun.
Love it, love it all. esp the fact that it is 2v2. might actually get everyone to play each other.
why are you guys so against making your own teams? If you suck then why are trying so hard to win? if you're doing it for fun then who cares what team your on? I don't get it. just do a losers bracket if you want to keep playing after you get stomped out of the first 2 rounds.