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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights
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xxjuicesxx
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I was thinking about this for awhile today but I think changes actually kill a game and dont keep it fresh.
Think of CoD like a Madden of FPS. Yea it stays the same gets a fresh coat of paint. People are fucking drawn to it for some reason. It attracts fans and doesn't change from this core game that it has.
Halo changes constantly. Its pissing people off through each iteration when it fucking worked way back in the day. It didn't NEED anything. It needed no change. Guns/Melee/Nades triangle in Arena style maps, with casual BTB on the side available would have worked forever.
Think about it hard.
But to give Halo 4 a 2 is just fanboyism. Its at least a 6-7. Its glitchy as fuck and not really fun or innovative in anyway. Campaign is so boring. Unless you are a Halo fan, Halo 4 won't last. Theres a ton more interesting games out there.
Think of CoD like a Madden of FPS. Yea it stays the same gets a fresh coat of paint. People are fucking drawn to it for some reason. It attracts fans and doesn't change from this core game that it has.
Halo changes constantly. Its pissing people off through each iteration when it fucking worked way back in the day. It didn't NEED anything. It needed no change. Guns/Melee/Nades triangle in Arena style maps, with casual BTB on the side available would have worked forever.
Think about it hard.
But to give Halo 4 a 2 is just fanboyism. Its at least a 6-7. Its glitchy as fuck and not really fun or innovative in anyway. Campaign is so boring. Unless you are a Halo fan, Halo 4 won't last. Theres a ton more interesting games out there.
I had an amazing sequence in the trenches of Meltdown, where eight or so players all converged...and then a Ghost plowed in, and the one of our Ghosts, and then a Warthog. Naturally, the game was laggy and I was already rubber banding. But apparently so was everyone else. For a good 20-30 seconds we were all running around in a circle, tossing grenades, Ghosts teleporting, bodies flying all over, no one able to land headshots. Pure anarchy.
I came out of it alive, somehow. It's the sort of thing I'd have grabbed a video of, if I could share it.
Also, I'm pretty sure I saw a Ghost get tagged with four simultaneous EMP shots from a plasma pistol, one of them mine, followed by at least four plasma grenades. I almost felt bad for the guy. He must not have had the right perk.
Personally, I think that the campaign is the only thing Halo 4 has going for it.
Game definitely doesn't have the longevity that CE, 2 and 3 did though - hell, even compared to Blops II and BF3 it falls short. It's missing something in the multiplayer department... I don't know what, but it's missing. It's like the game is trying so hard to be something it's not, and that just screws it over.
Garrett 2U
Member
I have fun playing Halo 4 all day, and then I come here and some posts make me doubt my uncertain affinity for the game.
I don't want Halo 4 to become stale, I want it to last!
I don't want Halo 4 to become stale, I want it to last!
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Disagree completely. Oh well!
Rickenslacker
Banned
Is an opinion that hard to swallow?
with all of it?
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Yeah, pretty much. Game needs some tweaks, but it's a lot of fun and a great update to the series.
Disagree completely. Oh well!
I'd probably partially agree with you but I haven't played it yet. If the engine is as decent as everyone's experiences here lead me to believe then it really is not that far off from having a chance at being a great game. I'm doubtful that any meaningful changes will be made to the game's design post-launch though.
Oh well! Haha. Just my opinion. No doubt that some people will love 343i's vision for Halo's multiplayer, but I for one miss Bungie's (regardless of what happened with Reach).
Campaign is great though. I have no faults with it at all.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Opinions everywhere!
I'll have something to play for a while, and you'll have Skyrim!
I'll have that too
xxxstylzxxx
Member
Agreed. Might want to wait till that first TU drops before determining the game's potential staying power.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
Did you read the Forerunner books Crytum and Primordium before playing Halo 4?
check your pms
Also, the depths of the Extraction gametype just got fairly interesting..
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I read about half of Cryptum. Basically all I knew going in was that the Didact was a Forerunner that lead the army.
Read Ghosts of Onyx too, but nothing from that affected Halo 4.
Garrett 2U
Member
Please explain! I haven't played that gametype yet
I could go for Sprint being removed and base speed being increased. I don't actually have any attachment to the feature. Having to choose between getting somewhere with haste, or your ability to shoot, is not exactly an appetizing or gameplay deepening choice. It's just something to do.
I'm not actively against its existence, but I won't shed any tears in the event of its dismissal.
I'm not actively against its existence, but I won't shed any tears in the event of its dismissal.
NobleGundam
Banned
GameInformer gave Halo 4 Gold & 9.25 rating.
Didn't mention Campaign theater removal, terminal video content needing being in the game, or lack of enemy A.I. and vehicles variety. Etc.
They only mentioned about adjusting music or something and Firefight being gone... I'd at least expect some sort of legit excuse for their review to give their rating.
Edit: Yet IGN gave an unbiased review and 9.8 rating... Fucking Shocking... Even Kyle Avatared it lol
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
Dammit. I for sure thought taking a break and coming back to Halo 4 would change my opinion. It only solidified them. FUCK!
Should have made it scale to player count or something!
Rickenslacker
Banned
Did you rebuy it again within days of trading it in?
Halo grasp too strong.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
lol no my roommate still has his copy.
Crimson.
Fuuuuuuuuck.
I am trying so damn hard to like this game, I really am, to the point where I'm sticking solely with slayer pro (which, for some reason, has the lowest fucking population of all the playlists) and a dash of objectives just so I can avoid all the bullshit that both infinity playlists entails. Even then, I have to deal with sprint, instant spawning that completely breaks the team dynamics of the game, random weapon drops, join in progress, and fucking Complex. Without question, I would rather spend the rest of my days playing only Haven, than having to play one single match on Complex. I really didn't think they could do worse than a map like Sword Base. I was wrong in ways I didn't think possible, that transcend the known laws of reality and time to retroactively make me angry with this game before I was even born.
I don't know, part of me wants to wait and see what MLG can do with a playlist, but if they don't have the option of fixing most of the problems with this game, then what's the fucking point? The fans not only enabled most of the changes, they actively asked for it, as seen with how many people can enjoy, let alone stomach, the infinity playlists and Call of Duty-esque gameplay in modern first-person shooters. After logging in thousands of games in Halo 2 and Halo 3, I took the backseat with Reach, hoping 343 would change the course and make a game that focused equally on individual skill, team skill, and map dynamics. Instead, people can fucking see through walls now.
I am trying so damn hard to like this game, I really am, to the point where I'm sticking solely with slayer pro (which, for some reason, has the lowest fucking population of all the playlists) and a dash of objectives just so I can avoid all the bullshit that both infinity playlists entails. Even then, I have to deal with sprint, instant spawning that completely breaks the team dynamics of the game, random weapon drops, join in progress, and fucking Complex. Without question, I would rather spend the rest of my days playing only Haven, than having to play one single match on Complex. I really didn't think they could do worse than a map like Sword Base. I was wrong in ways I didn't think possible, that transcend the known laws of reality and time to retroactively make me angry with this game before I was even born.
I don't know, part of me wants to wait and see what MLG can do with a playlist, but if they don't have the option of fixing most of the problems with this game, then what's the fucking point? The fans not only enabled most of the changes, they actively asked for it, as seen with how many people can enjoy, let alone stomach, the infinity playlists and Call of Duty-esque gameplay in modern first-person shooters. After logging in thousands of games in Halo 2 and Halo 3, I took the backseat with Reach, hoping 343 would change the course and make a game that focused equally on individual skill, team skill, and map dynamics. Instead, people can fucking see through walls now.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Oh I see.
Wait, wat? I didn't send you anything...
Game needs respawn timers in a bad way, not being penalized for death in an objective game is mind boggling...
Shake Appeal
Member
SWAT is much more fun than it was in Reach, but the autoaim kinda makes it silly. If you swipe/quick-scope with the BR you barely have to aim.
User 73932
Banned
melee is even more broken than in reach. I TAPPED IT!
MrGreencastle
Member
Foundry BTB edition.
Wall hacks.
Dominant team can just sit on top of the houses and pewpew at the peasants below while being fed with personal ordnance drops so they can continue their siege upon the downtrodden.
It's also too big for 4v4.
VivaciousJazzy
Member
Its even better when you use the reload glitch.
Der Flatulator
Member
I've got multiple overkills with it and only it without the reload glitch.
It's fun going back and rereading all the bullshit said in interviews after having played the game.
http://www.gamingvogue.com/halo-4-is-the-most-expensive-microsoft-game-nothings-even-close/
http://www.gamingvogue.com/halo-4-is-the-most-expensive-microsoft-game-nothings-even-close/
Shake Appeal
Member
Can't wait until they stop forcing Regicide on us through Challenges.
Enjoying playing CTF without ever bothering to touch the flag. I used to love helping out on flag runs but now I leave that to the suicidal peons.
Enjoying playing CTF without ever bothering to touch the flag. I used to love helping out on flag runs but now I leave that to the suicidal peons.
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