It should have come out a year after Reach. I would have played it so much.
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The Real Napsta
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How do you not have an xbl account?
Silly.Mikey
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Im pretty sure COD sales on xbox are still much better than on pc.
xxjuicesxx
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Yea why dont they understand Microsoft sales equals Microsoft sales regardless of the co-op that generates them.
Poker Face
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Hardware sales. At least that was the reason I thought it was.
People won't buy an Xbox if they can just play Halo on PC.
Silly.Mikey
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Again, COD.
MrGreencastle
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Could be the glitch.
Were u in a party.
Just reset ur router and don't party up with people.
Infact just trade that game in and play something else.
Silly.Mikey
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It says partner alert for espn only. So its up.
If you play on Xbox LIVE you already have an account, durrr.
Gucci Messiah
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I don't know the password, I didn't set this up
Hydranockz
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Everything's fine.
Y'know, I'm not signed into Xbox.com yet I can see the Support status page fine.
Anyways, it's just you. If you can't connect to XBL, reboot your modem bro.
The Henery
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The game is not designed around 'classic' Halo so don't be surprised when hardly anyone's playing it. Just because they label a playlist 'classic' it doesn't mean the gameplay and maps contained therein are classic. When the game is designed around Infinity BTB don't be surprised when that's what people play.
MrGreencastle
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xxjuicesxx
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Gucci Messiah
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Nope, just playing regicide solo
Silly.Mikey
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Anniversary played great man. From the old pistol to Headlong and other classic maps, it was amazing. And yet, no one was on it.
Gucci Messiah
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Must be my router, thank you!
excuse me don't be ridiculous. I would never make a password without the numbers 123 on the end
MrGreencastle
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Headlong was my favourite map in Reach. Shit was the tits.
np brah
Ok, true, but effectively it is. It's exclusive to Microsoft, and published by Microsoft. Also, that second bit is an opinion. I enjoyed Fable 3, the most recent Fable game.
Gears isn't a Microsoft IP, Fable's essentially dead.
Silly.Mikey
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Its a damn shame it was put in so late. Plus, the BTB playlist is gone from anniversary so i guess thats it for headlong for the next 6-8 years.
MrGreencastle
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Ozzy Onya A2Z
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This is so true it's not even funny.
The old classic settings somewhat 70-95% accurate and the maps again 80-95% accurate for the engine/mechanics they could deliver viably for cost/benefit ratio and still no one got on it.
For me anniversary well and truly scratched the classic itch whenever I wanted to play those settings. The maps had a lot of love put into them too.
The Henery
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It played ok. The pistol was wildly inconsistent and there was bloom on it even when pulsing the trigger despite what 343 might say otherwise. The grenades were still Reach grenades too. Again though, you kind of proved my point: Anniversary was built from Reach, it is not its own entity. It's still sluggish Reach movement, lead weight bombs instead of grenades, ROF related bloom on the main precision weapon. It's also at its core a DLC playlist so of course its population will pale in comparison to Reach's main gametypes.
Another interesting factor in this argument is how a playlist is pushed/promoted on the MM playlist screen. You say there's low user support for 'classic' Halo going by the playlist numbers. One might agree if they saw the first month of the Anniversary playlists populations; the vast majority of the playerbase was playing Anniversary Squad, which was predominantly Reach gameplay on the classic maps. Anniversary classic was bottom of the population pile. Crucially, it was also bottom of the playlist selection screen. A month later when 343 flipped the positions of Squad and Classic in the playlist selection screen their populations exchanged 1:1. What does this tell us? Most players play the base offering from the developers, the list which the developers want most people to play: the one at the top of the screen. Labelling something 'classic' or even worse 'pro' and putting it way down the list is a sure fire way of ensuring that list is avoided by a lot of potential new players.
You're right about Headlong though. Great map in Reach, I could've played it all day, pro-pipe and snipe baby. RIP Anniversary BTB, seriously.
xxjuicesxx
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The only thing good about the CEAnniversary playlists was pooping on all those bad CE kids who thought they were the shit. but it did NOT play like CE. at all. Reach engine was too different and the weapons were nowhere close to how the CE weapons acted. Maps were all changed up...no, no it was not the same at all.
96% wins and a 1oo+ games win streak around that time.
Oh wow if you change your GT and I assume play some Reach it will update your bungie.net profile. Well essentially I guess it will create your Bungie.net new Reach profile.
96% wins and a 1oo+ games win streak around that time.
Oh wow if you change your GT and I assume play some Reach it will update your bungie.net profile. Well essentially I guess it will create your Bungie.net new Reach profile.
Silly.Mikey
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Honestly, the little things i really didnt notice the difference. 1 flag ctf on headlong Reach was just as fun for me as it was in Halo2. Even better if you count the updated visuals.
I loved it and its extremely frustrating that they entirely removed a playlist for which 2 of the anniversary maps were created for.....just fokin stupid.I would actually go back to anniversary right now just for big team on headlong. No joke.
Don't forget the "get 15 secondary weapon kills in a single match" weekly challenge.
ElRenoRaven
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That is so fucking cool. I'd kill for a cane like that. I just love watching the community do cool things like that for each other. Reminds me though. Bungie how about some damn Cane's for sale based on the franchises you still have?
Weird, I was just talking to my girl about those a minute ago.
Thought of her ass <3
I really enjoyed the anniversary maps and playlist. However I found the altered physics (most notably the jump height and "float" on the jumps - you feel like a sack of bricks) to be really distracting and awkward. I still played that list almost exclusively after it was launched, but to me it felt a bit shoehorned into the game.
At least SWAT exists for people who want to do that without reducing their effectiveness that much :/
But yeah, there are a ton of Halo 4 challenges that not only didn't learn the lessons from Reach, but go backwards from Reach's set and influence player behavior far more. A real shame.
Is this the one whose life you saved?
Prisoner is such a bad map.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Isn't that what challenges and/or achievements are by design, virtual carrots on sticks to keep people playing certain things or keep them coming back online?
Personally I've never been one for achievements or challenges hunting at all. I just play.
xxjuicesxx
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Good challenges, yes.
However Reach had things like "Get 3 sticks in a game" so all day you just had kids trying to run up to you and stick you, and it made the game stupid. It also made your teammates do really dumb stuff and go 1 and 18 because they were trying to get 3 assassinations in one game instead of actually playing the game like it shoudl be played.
However "get 100 kills today" would be considered a good challenge, it motivates players to continue playing by rewarding them but their gameplay doesn't have to change in anyway.
Best to keep your challenges generic if possible.
You can do that without dictating a specific behavior - in the case of the perfection challenge, sitting in the base trying to preserve a K/D because the game says they'll get a present if they do.
Reach challenges, while not all perfect, allowed for a broad variety of behaviors. Get a certain number of a class of medals, get a number of kills in a certain section of the game (multi/campaign/firefight) or anywhere in the game. There are right ways to reward people for playing and wrong ways. Reach had some bad ones too, like the assassination and sticky challenges, but by and large they gave more freedom to the player and didn't encourage shitty tactics as much.
Along with Chill Out they are the best 2v2 Halo maps ever made. Halo CE is best in 2v2, and most of the maps play best in 2v2 slayer (spawns work exceptionally well). Halo CE is mostly chaotic and utterly ridiculous in 4v4 on most maps, it's still fun, but it's mostly out of control. Halo 2 is when Halo really became a great 4v4 game, before that, it was all about 2v2.
Damnation, Battle Creek, Boarding Action and Hang Em High are decent for 4v4, but still, Halo CE is a 2v2 and 1v1 game. Unless you are playing Blood Gulch or Sidewinder, high player counts are too manic.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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I get you now, thanks. Do you think they should have small amounts of those behavioural ones though, just for minimal variety or less skilled or less time played sake?
Very true and surely due to the development parameters e.g. CE without xbox live so all split screen or LAN based hence the maps/gameplay are developed around that principle.
I'm not sure if the CE maps were just bad, or bad with non-CE gameplay.
Chillout worked well in Halo 3.
Beaver Creek was awesome in Halo 2, and Reach I guess. Jetpacks fucked it though.
I've NEVER EVER EVER liked Hang Em High. I think its shitty.
Bloodgulch really only worked in CE. It was ok in Halo 2.
Chillout worked well in Halo 3.
Beaver Creek was awesome in Halo 2, and Reach I guess. Jetpacks fucked it though.
I've NEVER EVER EVER liked Hang Em High. I think its shitty.
Bloodgulch really only worked in CE. It was ok in Halo 2.
@tashi https://twitter.com/fyrewulff/status/281942328934023168/photo/1
It better work this time, I had to walk through Vancouver's DTES to get it, including a final boss of one mean looking motherfucker that had a big dog off a leash that followed me to whichever side of the street I tried to cross to.
The CE maps were a product of their time, they don't really need to ever be directly ported ever again. I think Reach proved that spiritual successors are better than direct remakes. Also it was kind of pointless to burn Headlong on a game that was already being sent down the river.
It better work this time, I had to walk through Vancouver's DTES to get it, including a final boss of one mean looking motherfucker that had a big dog off a leash that followed me to whichever side of the street I tried to cross to.
The CE maps were a product of their time, they don't really need to ever be directly ported ever again. I think Reach proved that spiritual successors are better than direct remakes. Also it was kind of pointless to burn Headlong on a game that was already being sent down the river.
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