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The Antitype
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The AR was a GREAT secondary to the DMR in Reach.
Stripper13
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I'm not sure I'd call the scattershot entirely pointless next to the bolt shot.
Personally, I have enjoyed a pretty good success rate with the Scattershot by utilising it differently than the shotgun and bolt shot. Both the Shotgun/Boltshot rely heavily on the 1 shot kill. Getting the range down pat, hitting once, and then melee if required to finish... if you miss, you are vulnerable. They are great for multiple kills, but only provided you catch the enemy unaware/they are baited, and you have time to reload/charge/pump between kills.
The scattershot on the other hand is best used as a spam cannon. It sports better range than both the shotgun and bolt shot, but does less damage. You can still use it as a 1 shot weapon, but you have to be more or less inside the enemy... and you are definitely disadvantaged compared to Shotgun/Boltshot. However, you can smash out 5 shots VERY quickly, it ricochets (albeit mildly), it obscures vision, and with the range advantage you can smash the trigger even if someone jumps back/turns and runs... and still score the kill.
It is, for me, one of the shortest to use weapons, simply because I crack through the ammo extremely quickly. It doesn't change the fact that the Bolt Shot is pretty much OP, but I still think the Scattershot is designed for a different purpose than the shotgun was. Less precision, more spam.
The Antitype
Banned
I see what you're saying, I just think it comes down to the same issue as dual-wielding in Halo 2... it's a spray-and-pray weapon, which means skill is out the window and you're just praying your pellets land while the other dude is busting out DMR shots.
Personally I find it ineffective, and it annoys me that it comes up in ordinance drops three times more often than the shotgun.
Legit viewers?? http://www.twitch.tv/fundie
bobs...onGaf
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Because the other games suck.
I'm really glad they are going to try and keep MLG close to classic halo MLG - should be a lot of fun
User 73706
Banned
I've been maining Hologram/LightRifle/Suppressor with Stability and Hardlight Shield/LightRifle/Suppressor with Dexterity myself. Whoever mentioned Hardlight Shield as a Boltshot counter is brilliant; not only does it stop the shots, it literally deflects them like most other Hardlight slag. In a game of Regicide the other night I was fighting the king who got a Kingtacular mid-battle and rounded a corner with a charged Boltshot; I just barely whipped out my shield causing the blast to ricochet into himself, draining his shields and letting a teammate headshot him while I handled an enemy off in the distance.
Then just use those games! If they're going to pull out sales charts, why not just use the damn game? Apparently their justification is more people bought Halo 3, so why not just use Halo 3?
xxjuicesxx
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Because you dont practice chops on a older game. You only do that with the newest iteration...
Moa
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The Antitype
Banned
I'm fine with them providing a classic-themed playlist for competitive junkies, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that a public playlist based on those settings would do (or have done) anything to curb the cratering population numbers.
Halo's gameplay need not exist in a time-warp where Halo 2 is the standard. It also need not exist in the COD penis-envy driven nightmare that is Halo 4. This is a middle-ground in there somewhere that would actually appeal - I think - to a pretty large audience.
There's a whole bunch of people out there who don't want to play another CoD clone but also don't want to play a game from 2004... again.
Moa
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To attract as many new players as possible into the competitive scene.
It is a good decision by them to try and bring in new players, just you know, vanilla Halo 4 can't be played competitively like on the scale of Starcraft II for example.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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I think are going to be pretty surprised at how low the pop. will be in the eventual classic playlist.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Casual players dont even play Halo 4. They all left for Blops II, per the population charts.
The only people that are left are mediocre halo canon fans who dont like casual or competitive gametypes. They enjoy things like Flood, Invasion, and filling bars.
No crap, its going to be about 5-10% of the 100k left playing Halo 4.
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To get the #'s back they need to MAKE A GOOD GAME. Halo 4 is below par, its unacceptable there are too many things wrong with it to be considered a good game. Regardless of IGN giving it a 9.8. It barely creates any moments of fun.
The only people that are left are mediocre halo canon fans who dont like casual or competitive gametypes. They enjoy things like Flood, Invasion, and filling bars.
No crap, its going to be about 5-10% of the 100k left playing Halo 4.
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To get the #'s back they need to MAKE A GOOD GAME. Halo 4 is below par, its unacceptable there are too many things wrong with it to be considered a good game. Regardless of IGN giving it a 9.8. It barely creates any moments of fun.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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I like invasion, filling bars and flood. Does that mean im a mediocre canon fan too?
xxjuicesxx
Member
Probably.
Most likely.
xxjuicesxx
Member
In other news Blops has more players playing Zombies at any given time than Halo 4 has in all playlists at peak hours....
Holy fuck Hire me.
Holy fuck Hire me.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Bring back armour lock 343
Moa
Member
Black Ops 2 tracks how many players simply online, in the lobby & online in games.
Halo 4 tracks people actively searching & playing games online.
They can't exactly be compared, but there is no doubt Black Ops 2 is a lot higher.
Eh, I guess I just overlooked it then. I could never kill anyone with it in Reach unless they were really bad (plus DMRs were abundant anyway)
Halo 3 is so nice to look at. I love the cleanliness of everything.
I was invited by AMD at their pre-event, some days ago, but I will not spend 600 for a flight, just for an event like this, which you can also watch on a live stream.
Edit: If I had still hollidays and AMD was going to pay the flight, then I would probably go, because I was never in Las Vegas and the CES is also pretty interesting.
The Antitype
Banned
xxjuicesxx
Member
New playlist goes up. My phone buzzes, Gamesager went live. Kid doesnt even have a license.
Moa
Member
Don't even think Gamesager attempted to play Regicide, you know, the only playlist that would have been a challenge for him to get points in.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Speedrun chat is hilarious. Swaggy Poppins and YSG are definitely getting it on later.
Is this all campaign challenges are going to be anymore? "Complete a level on X difficulty +/- X, Y, and Z skulls" again and again and again, each week going to the next campaign level, with an accompanying skull-based challenge that can be done on any level and Heroic or higher? Ten weeks in a row of the same style. Should have seen it coming when campaign commendations got the axe, but these are just kinda devoid of creativity.
I also wonder if the constant pushing for players to use automatic weapons via challenges is intentional on 343's part to bring their usage more in line with the other weapons. Frankly, I can't say I'm glad they're encouraging matchmaking randoms, inevitably placed on my team, to be even more useless than usual.
I also wonder if the constant pushing for players to use automatic weapons via challenges is intentional on 343's part to bring their usage more in line with the other weapons. Frankly, I can't say I'm glad they're encouraging matchmaking randoms, inevitably placed on my team, to be even more useless than usual.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Wtf at the challenges....
12 multikills in a single match?? Fuck outta here.
12 multikills in a single match?? Fuck outta here.
Factor in instant respawn + the fact that your multikills don't reset upon death and this actually becomes plausible.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Id consider myself a slightly above average player. No hope of me rocking 12 in one game, unless it glitches and counts 2 matches likes always. Alot of poeple wont be getting that challenge.
Also im with Havok, the Campaign challenges are so uninspired
Anyone watching the speedrun and hearing this guys laugh?? God damn thats a funny ass, completely fucked up laugh...
Is this a joke?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46106036&postcount=102
Played against a BTB team before who were mostly camo snipers with stability and ord-reroll. They must have had like 5 sniping weapons on the map at one point
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46106036&postcount=102
Played against a BTB team before who were mostly camo snipers with stability and ord-reroll. They must have had like 5 sniping weapons on the map at one point
MrGreencastle
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He said balanced for the most part. These types of things need nuking, but they happen very rarely when I play. I have no doubt there will be a sandbox balance TU some time in the future.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
That laugh...
HiredN00bs
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Rickenslacker
Banned
Everyone left now that they switched to Skyrim.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Kyle you missed the speedrun with the worlds absolute worst laugh ever. Ive never pitied someone so much and laughed so hard at the same time.
Anyone on here actually play Halo 4 anymore? I haven't touched it since the week before Christmas and I honestly don't feel the pull to get it back out and play again. Maybe the upcoming DLC and/or Title Update will give me a reason to try again, but for now there simply isn't anything pulling me away from other games I got over the holiday season.
User 73706
Banned
I do here and there. A big issue is that it has the potential to be entertaining with friends, but everyone's too busy not being online and posting about how they have nobody to play with.
Also, totally out of left field, but I got some stuff together last night and finally finished my collab with Sai from that contest for a while back. He did the mechanical percussion and sample arrangement, I did the synth and acoustic percussion + wubwubs.
Plenty of people, obviously.
Shame Harvest isn't in BTB. It works in 4v4 but makes the vehicle routes pointless for Warthogs.
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