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Bregmann Roche
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The new iTunes is the product that bumped Halo 4 off the top of my "most disappointing products of 2012" list that nobody gives a shit about.
There are so many elements of iTunes 11 that make NO SENSE AT ALL. Like columns that should line up that don't just because someone felt lazy I guess? I spent my first 2 weeks with it just trying to make it look and act more like iTunes 10.
I installed Songbird for Christ sake--and nobody's done that since 2006.
squidhands
Member
I am ready to rejoice.
I remember hearing that the map was being tweaked before it's release out into the matchmaking wilderness. Maybe there will be additional ways to get to the donut from the center. And raise the middle to obscure the insane sightline.
BlueScrote
Member
Honestly, I can only do like one simulation racing game per generation. I do enjoy them just not as much as arcade racers. I have Horizons sitting here from Black Friday, haven't had a chance to pop it in yet though.
I actually love the new version. I was getting pretty tired of the old look. Love the smart search bar, even if it is a bit slow in indexing.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Good note by Frank in the bulletin. When you actually look at what a monumental task it must have been to go from 5 people to finishing Halo 4 it must be staggering. The small bit that I know about development makes be really wish I could have seen the entire process from those initial five, to the game going gold.
Like Halo 4 or not you have to commend 343 for even existing, and making a solid product in the end. Hopefully they are true to their words when stating they are learning from the mistakes made. I guess we'll see!
Also from gaming side:
Reach better than ODST, 2, 3 and 4? Wut.
EDIT: Don't go into that thread. That goes double for Dax. Some Halo 3 campaign hate going on too.
Like Halo 4 or not you have to commend 343 for even existing, and making a solid product in the end. Hopefully they are true to their words when stating they are learning from the mistakes made. I guess we'll see!
Also from gaming side:
Reach better than ODST, 2, 3 and 4? Wut.
EDIT: Don't go into that thread. That goes double for Dax. Some Halo 3 campaign hate going on too.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Ah nothing like waking up to more discussion.
Yea I'd have to say Halo 2's Spartan look was perfect. It was honestly my favorite design. Halo 3 was close but they toned it down and made the green a lot darker on Chief's armor.
Yea I'd have to say Halo 2's Spartan look was perfect. It was honestly my favorite design. Halo 3 was close but they toned it down and made the green a lot darker on Chief's armor.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I'm fine with people liking whichever game the most, it's not that surprising that people like different things.
The thread is fine, lots of love (and hate) for every title.
Diseased Yak
Gold Member
Hey all, I have a code from Amazon that I didn't realize I still had, it's the pre-order bonus "Web" Armor for pre-ordering Halo 4. I don't want it. First person to PM me gets.
Edit: CODE IS GONE!
Edit: CODE IS GONE!
BlueScrote
Member
I do find it interesting how much tastes differ between this thread and the more general GAF community.
gAg CruSh3r
Member
I never actually did one of these but I will do it 
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How long have you been a member of NeoGAF? How long have you lurked?
Ahh since |OT11|.. It's very interesting what you guys say o.o...
How old are you? What country or state are you posting from? (Optional)
I'm 20, I'm from Idaho and no Idaho is not all about potatoes.. -.- but they are very good... We have many fun things here too!
How long have you been a Halo fan? Have you played all the games?
I been a fan since Halo CE I remember the first time my friend introduced me to this game! Oh the love and joy we had playing campaign over and over whenever I came over.
I had bought a Xbox with my own money months prior to Halo 2. I got live at least a month or two after Halo 2 was releases because I wanted High speed Internet and it took a while to get it. I used the Free 2 month trial Xbox live it came with and since then I have had live. My gamer tag is 7 years now!
I have played and bought all Halo's even Halo Wars...
What mode do you spend most of your time in?
FORGE!!! Oh how I love forge!... We have a group called the Eastern Idaho LANs and we have LANs every 2-3 weeks or so. I'm there Forge Master haha... I mostly make fun game types along with the maps I make. So if anyone wants to try Flood Race, Super Saiyan Slayer, or Hunger Games. Just ask.. I do love infinity slayer and objective game types. I wish they had big team battles with slayer and objection games in it( Good old Halo 2 BTB)...
What is your favorite playlist?
Infinity Slayer! It would be BTB but the maps have the worst vehicles and stuff in them. They should keep that damn Mantis out of it unless its Heavy Big Team... Please for the love a god they need to add objective game types! Ahhh -.- enough ranting..
Help us get to know you better. (Optional)
I am married and do have a 3 month old boy.. We where married before she got pregnant so don't judge ... I will be becoming a License Denturist here soon.( I build dentures or other prosthetic devices)
If anyone wants to play some custom games or MM you can add me but make sure you tell me your from NeoGAF or else I would delete it. I get a lot or request from noobs.. -.-
My GT is gAg CruSh3r ( Funny story about my GT I have not changed it since I made my account. Also I thought Chrusher was a sweet GT. So when I made my account it was already taken so I decided to put my initials in front of it witch is gag hahaha. I did not really think it through oh well.
Enough about me! I hope you guys enjoy me luking and commenting here on NeoGAF!
Ps: sorry for type-os haha I have to get ready for work and was in a rush.
...How long have you been a member of NeoGAF? How long have you lurked?
Ahh since |OT11|.. It's very interesting what you guys say o.o...
How old are you? What country or state are you posting from? (Optional)
I'm 20, I'm from Idaho and no Idaho is not all about potatoes.. -.- but they are very good... We have many fun things here too!
How long have you been a Halo fan? Have you played all the games?
I been a fan since Halo CE I remember the first time my friend introduced me to this game! Oh the love and joy we had playing campaign over and over whenever I came over.
I had bought a Xbox with my own money months prior to Halo 2. I got live at least a month or two after Halo 2 was releases because I wanted High speed Internet and it took a while to get it. I used the Free 2 month trial Xbox live it came with and since then I have had live. My gamer tag is 7 years now!
I have played and bought all Halo's even Halo Wars
... What mode do you spend most of your time in?
FORGE!!! Oh how I love forge!... We have a group called the Eastern Idaho LANs and we have LANs every 2-3 weeks or so. I'm there Forge Master haha... I mostly make fun game types along with the maps I make. So if anyone wants to try Flood Race, Super Saiyan Slayer, or Hunger Games. Just ask
.. I do love infinity slayer and objective game types. I wish they had big team battles with slayer and objection games in it( Good old Halo 2 BTB)...What is your favorite playlist?
Infinity Slayer! It would be BTB but the maps have the worst vehicles and stuff in them. They should keep that damn Mantis out of it unless its Heavy Big Team... Please for the love a god they need to add objective game types! Ahhh -.- enough ranting..
Help us get to know you better. (Optional)
I am married and do have a 3 month old boy
.. We where married before she got pregnant so don't judge ... I will be becoming a License Denturist here soon.( I build dentures or other prosthetic devices) If anyone wants to play some custom games or MM you can add me but make sure you tell me your from NeoGAF or else I would delete it. I get a lot or request from noobs.. -.-
My GT is gAg CruSh3r ( Funny story about my GT I have not changed it since I made my account. Also I thought Chrusher was a sweet GT. So when I made my account it was already taken so I decided to put my initials in front of it witch is gag hahaha. I did not really think it through oh well.
Enough about me! I hope you guys enjoy me luking and commenting here on NeoGAF!
Ps: sorry for type-os haha I have to get ready for work and was in a rush.
Blood Gulch in HW is better than the one in Reach.
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yeah, I did exactly this. tweaked settings as much as I could to make it more like previous iTunes. in the end I thought fuck it and went through the trouble to downgrade to iTunes 10. first time I've ever done that and I've used iTunes for a very long time.
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gAg CruSh3r
Member
Could we please get a timeline on when we will get basic features from a 5 year old game added to Halo 4?
I know 343 is very proud of assembling a team with Microsoft funds, but I've heard that like 20 times. When will we the consumer actually see some worthwhile additions to the game? The big news after winter break is we'll be getting a temporary doubles playlist?
I know 343 is very proud of assembling a team with Microsoft funds, but I've heard that like 20 times. When will we the consumer actually see some worthwhile additions to the game? The big news after winter break is we'll be getting a temporary doubles playlist?
squidhands
Member
Team Regicide was an extremely worthwhile addition to the game, and the hint of loners being able to enjoy matchmaking more is enough to get me antsy for the update. If the TU comes around the time of the next DLC, that would be great. I'm ready to hear what changes are coming any time now.
It's also interesting to note that 343 audited the playlists so you no longer have to scroll up or down to see them all. I guess they did that for the Cross-Promotional Challenge, but it's still a smart choice that hopefully sticks around. But don't take away TR to fit in other shit I won't play.
I'm a bit disappointed in the actual content of the update, but I am thankful they at least acknowledged the issues.
Basically, I said a while back if 343 didn't at least ACKNOWLEDGE the games problems then I'd be more or less done with them until further notice.
But they did... barely. Its still super vague, and there are even some decisions being made right now that make no fucking sense. Such as a TEMPORARY doubles playlist? What? It should have been standard since launch.
And super disappointing we have to wait another whole month and potentially more for file shares, but at least they're working on it.
There was mention of custom game options so at least they're looking into it.
I wish we could at least know what this next TU is about. Just tell me if its more fixing glitches oriented like last one, or gameplay/balance/features oriented like I'm hoping for.
Boltshot can cross-map now.
I'm glad that they're looking into new playlists for rotation and working on file share and customs fixes, at least. The promise of new, actual small maps (Complex is not a small map, I don't care how many times I see it in regicide or 4v4) is nice, but we'll see what actually pans out.
Can someone post the contents of the bulletin here? Waypoint is blocked at work
To summarize
Happy New Year
Letter from Frankie: Proud of what we were able to create, for a first game from a new team wasn't half bad. Realize we made mistakes, could do stuff better ie communication, DLC fiasco, features missing. We're sorry we will continue to work on this stuff, but still proud of my team and the game.
Silentium is coming out.
SpOps Season 1 continued.
Forge playlist (temporary)
Doubles playlist (temporary)
Grifball playlist (temporary)
FFA and Team Snipes maybe
Something something
<3 bsangel
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At least Fyrewulff can stop crying about 343 supporting MLG and ignoring the community cartographers since the opposite has happened.
How long have you been a member of NeoGAF? How long have you lurked?
Halo 2
How old are you? What country or state are you posting from? (Optional)
31 / New Orleans, LA
How long have you been a Halo fan? Have you played all the games?
Was debating on getting a mac just to play Halo, pumped when CE switched to xbox.
Bought a console 2 weeks from launch and been hooked since.
What mode do you spend most of your time in?
Slayer / 1 Flag
What is your favorite playlist?
Skirmish - Halo 2
Objective - Halo 3
Help us get to know you better. (Optional)
One of the original Halo GAFers
Went to the first meetup at PAX.
Kind of an asshole, probably smarter then most of you.
My girlfriend looks like jessica alba.
Soccer / kickball
Halo 2
How old are you? What country or state are you posting from? (Optional)
31 / New Orleans, LA
How long have you been a Halo fan? Have you played all the games?
Was debating on getting a mac just to play Halo, pumped when CE switched to xbox.
Bought a console 2 weeks from launch and been hooked since.
What mode do you spend most of your time in?
Slayer / 1 Flag
What is your favorite playlist?
Skirmish - Halo 2
Objective - Halo 3
Help us get to know you better. (Optional)
One of the original Halo GAFers
Went to the first meetup at PAX.
Kind of an asshole, probably smarter then most of you.
My girlfriend looks like jessica alba.
Soccer / kickball
Zeouterlimits
Member
Both blocked here. Websense, you devil.
GrimBrother One
Member
Excellent work.
Yeah I mean I feel like every weekly bulletin is the same.
Very proud of the team, we did a lot with a little... no. Every business is hard as shit to build, every product is hard as shit to launch, the difference is most businesses aren't a wholly owned subsidiary of Microsoft. There are no cafes in most businesses. There are no lounges with plasma TVs. There are no trips to NYC to hang out with celebrities. I've never seen a group of people congratulate themselves more on doing their job than 343. I completely understand being proud of the team and what people have accomplished, but don't try to frame it as though the struggle excuses some of the faults.
There are approximately zero people reading this:
that were disappointed with Halo 4, but will now return to the game because of that statement. It means nothing to anyone but the people who already know you made mistakes.
There are approximately zero people reading this:
who then feel better about playing a Halo game with the worst frame-rate drops in the series.
Then I read this
is it the community's fault that we're missing features from Halo 3? Frankie talks about how by all objective measures Halo 4 was a success. Missing core components of your predeccessors is a pretty damn objective failure.
and I read this
What was influenced by the community? Any examples? Was FUD or TTL asking for Complex? If the community is such a direct and democratic extension of the team, which part of the community asked for the first map pack to be big brown maps? Was that ReadyUpLive or r/Halo's fault? Could you guys have democratically put up a vote with the major communities asking if recreating Seattle during crunch time was a good idea? I just find it hilarious that after a year of Trust Us, Feels Like Halo, now suddenly the community is apparently a direct extension of the team and there are just too many gosh darn voices to be heard to make people happy. To extend this makeshift olive branch while simultaneously refusing to outline the next title update is hysterical to me. To this day, we still have no idea who, why, or how 343 makes any of their matchmaking decisions. We open up the weekly bulletin every week and hope there's something interesting. That is literally the only involvement we get with matchmaking updates.
No end user gives a rat's ass about the development process of anything. You don't think about the thousands of man-hours that go into the labeling of every single product in a grocery store, you just buy it. Give us some actual hard definable timelines for when we'll be getting fileshare, when we're getting a ranking system, when we're getting video uploading. Where are these features? Everything is always one or two weeks away. We'll have more details to share in a bit! As someone who hasn't played Halo in over a month, all I took from that update is that video game development is hard and that we'll be getting minor playlist updates in 3 or 4 weeks. Well, no shit. Sometime in the future we'll get missing features added and a title update. Oh and we have more outsourced table-scrap maps to look forward to that we'll have to pay for. Halo 4 is hitting all time low daily peak populations right now, there are 200 people in the playlist of their new DLC pack, and a 4 year old download-only PC game is ahead of it in activity, but who cares, the team is working hard! Puhleaze. I'm sure Frankie will respond to this by calling me a troll and that I hate Halo and hate everything and am moving the goalposts and should leave GAF as I have been told by him before, which is fine, but it doesn't change the fact that all the 9.8's and long hours in the world can't stop this game from falling further on its face if they keep heading down this same path.
Zoso Achilles
Member
From last night:
It's called jetpack. Camo is also an accepted answer.
Bulletin copypasta (minus image):
I feel like we haven't talked since last year
Greetings and salutations, dear reader, and welcome to the first Bulletin of 2013. I wanted to write you an eloquently penned introduction, full of cleverly-crafted phrases intended to evoke emotional responses relevant to the recent warm and festive holiday season, except I couldn't remember the name of the traditional party favor typically used during celebratory occasions. So I opened up my favorite search engine, typed in "things you blow at parties", and proceeded to get lost in the deepest, darkest depths of the intertubes. Suffice it to say that it wasn't safe to go alone. Thankfully I wasn't truly alone, because after a few weeks of operating at partial capacity, 343 as a collective entity is officially back and running full steam ahead into the anxiously awaiting arms of the New Year.
Earlier this week, as people across all disciplines of the studio readjusted to the daily grind, we took several hours to get together as a group and sync about what we accomplished last year and what we hope to accomplish this year. As we looked back at 2012, we called out the positives, talked extensively about the negatives, and eventually switched gears to everything that is and will be 2013. I'll touch on some of the lattermost things shortly but first Frank would like a few minutes of your time. When he initially mentioned he wanted to write part of today's Bulletin, I was all, "You want to do half of my work?" And he was all, "Yes, but only half. Don't even try to pawn the whole thing off on me." Then I was all, "Whatevs, dude. Just start writing already." And he did.
From the face of Frank
A look at early 2013
While Frank's words present the perfect note to end on, I'd like to share a little about the future he spoke of. One of the best parts about being blessed with the caretaker role of such an expansive universe is the opportunity for exploration, and books play an important role in that. Halo: Primordium came out in early 2012, and Halo: Silentium, the third novel in the Forerunner Saga written by Greg Bear, is slated to be released on March 19, 2013. Here is a little about it, for the fiction fans amongst you:
As far as Halo 4 goes, we have some fun stuff planned for late January and beyond. After the Infinity Challenge concludes, regular Matchmaking updates will start up again (and that includes the return of the second half of Spartan Ops Season 1, which features brand new stories, missions and locations). It's important to note the below scheduled is not finalized and could very well change, but as of right now, here is what we're tentatively planning:
Matchmaking updates go live every Monday, and potential playlists for the month of February include both FFA and a new and improved version of Team Snipers. Late February will also bring both a Title Update and the Majestic Map Pack (which includes two small maps and one medium-sized map) to Halo 4 as well. Expect more information on all of those things next month.
While we're excited about our upcoming Matchmaking updates, I'm also excited about some of the things that may be low on your priority list but are high on mine. Take communication, for instance. I believe we need to work harder to get you information. We communicate through Bulletins, blog articles, social media channels and our forums. While that may sound like a lot, there are still numerous people asking questions about information that is already out there. That means we need to work harder to make sure the information is where you are. We've already started this effort on the forums (which is the first and most important place we look for feedback). We launched a "News" section, where we provide links to all headline articles, press releases, and blog articles we publish on a daily basis. There are also threads in that section where you can suggest a topic (Battle Rifle bulletology, anyone?) or ask a question for a future Bulletin. We'll continue working on our communication, and you can gage our efforts by keeping an eye on the following forum accounts:
For now, I'm going to let you soak up all of the above information. Fret not, though, because we'll meet again. Same time, same place next week, as a matter of fact. Until then...
<3,
bs angel
P.S. Discuss.
I feel like we haven't talked since last year
Greetings and salutations, dear reader, and welcome to the first Bulletin of 2013. I wanted to write you an eloquently penned introduction, full of cleverly-crafted phrases intended to evoke emotional responses relevant to the recent warm and festive holiday season, except I couldn't remember the name of the traditional party favor typically used during celebratory occasions. So I opened up my favorite search engine, typed in "things you blow at parties", and proceeded to get lost in the deepest, darkest depths of the intertubes. Suffice it to say that it wasn't safe to go alone. Thankfully I wasn't truly alone, because after a few weeks of operating at partial capacity, 343 as a collective entity is officially back and running full steam ahead into the anxiously awaiting arms of the New Year.
Earlier this week, as people across all disciplines of the studio readjusted to the daily grind, we took several hours to get together as a group and sync about what we accomplished last year and what we hope to accomplish this year. As we looked back at 2012, we called out the positives, talked extensively about the negatives, and eventually switched gears to everything that is and will be 2013. I'll touch on some of the lattermost things shortly but first Frank would like a few minutes of your time. When he initially mentioned he wanted to write part of today's Bulletin, I was all, "You want to do half of my work?" And he was all, "Yes, but only half. Don't even try to pawn the whole thing off on me." Then I was all, "Whatevs, dude. Just start writing already." And he did.
From the face of Frank
A look at early 2013
While Frank's words present the perfect note to end on, I'd like to share a little about the future he spoke of. One of the best parts about being blessed with the caretaker role of such an expansive universe is the opportunity for exploration, and books play an important role in that. Halo: Primordium came out in early 2012, and Halo: Silentium, the third novel in the Forerunner Saga written by Greg Bear, is slated to be released on March 19, 2013. Here is a little about it, for the fiction fans amongst you:
As far as Halo 4 goes, we have some fun stuff planned for late January and beyond. After the Infinity Challenge concludes, regular Matchmaking updates will start up again (and that includes the return of the second half of Spartan Ops Season 1, which features brand new stories, missions and locations). It's important to note the below scheduled is not finalized and could very well change, but as of right now, here is what we're tentatively planning:
Matchmaking updates go live every Monday, and potential playlists for the month of February include both FFA and a new and improved version of Team Snipers. Late February will also bring both a Title Update and the Majestic Map Pack (which includes two small maps and one medium-sized map) to Halo 4 as well. Expect more information on all of those things next month.
While we're excited about our upcoming Matchmaking updates, I'm also excited about some of the things that may be low on your priority list but are high on mine. Take communication, for instance. I believe we need to work harder to get you information. We communicate through Bulletins, blog articles, social media channels and our forums. While that may sound like a lot, there are still numerous people asking questions about information that is already out there. That means we need to work harder to make sure the information is where you are. We've already started this effort on the forums (which is the first and most important place we look for feedback). We launched a "News" section, where we provide links to all headline articles, press releases, and blog articles we publish on a daily basis. There are also threads in that section where you can suggest a topic (Battle Rifle bulletology, anyone?) or ask a question for a future Bulletin. We'll continue working on our communication, and you can gage our efforts by keeping an eye on the following forum accounts:
For now, I'm going to let you soak up all of the above information. Fret not, though, because we'll meet again. Same time, same place next week, as a matter of fact. Until then...
<3,
bs angel
P.S. Discuss.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Kyle I feel like you'll never like Halo again. Not that anyone could fault you, but damn.
NullPointer
Member
What you fail to grock here is what you've always failed to grock. The Halo community is more than just you and your friends. By the numbers most Halo players are in it for campaign and not the strict parameters of multiplayer that many here seem to require.
Its like you live in your own little bubble.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Minus the image? Well what's the point then?
You undermine your self with your own argument a bit, but I get what you're saying.
So does anyone here really.
Sure, but that player base is a significant bubble.
Hard to look at those population numbers and not think there must be dissatisfaction out there. Not necessarily the same dissatisfaction.
I want some facts, but at least there is acknowledgement that they fucked up... then proceeded to mention it's the best halo game that won awards.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt though, since that's about as much as they can say as the face of microsoft gaming. I've stopped playing the game. We'll see what the TU does for me in 2 months.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt though, since that's about as much as they can say as the face of microsoft gaming. I've stopped playing the game. We'll see what the TU does for me in 2 months.
GrimBrother One
Member
Kyle, genuinely asking...
Is there a "point of no return" for you in regards to coming back to the franchise? While I certainly don't share your views, I appreciate the fact that you at one time were very passionate about the same game(s) I am passionate about, and I do think that it sucks that it's gone down this path for you.
It feels like reading about someone talking about a failed marriage (not to bleed hyperbole). Often times that person who is so right for someone else for the long term just doesn't last and stand the test of time when paired with another.
Is there a "point of no return" for you in regards to coming back to the franchise? While I certainly don't share your views, I appreciate the fact that you at one time were very passionate about the same game(s) I am passionate about, and I do think that it sucks that it's gone down this path for you.
It feels like reading about someone talking about a failed marriage (not to bleed hyperbole). Often times that person who is so right for someone else for the long term just doesn't last and stand the test of time when paired with another.
GrimBrother One
Member
I've got to be honest on that one though. 4 might be the best looking of the campaigns, but its the worst or at best 2nd worst campaign out of all of them. The encounters are smaller / the AI is more shallow and less reactive / the scripted parts are routine / the vehicle trench runs were overdone / the new enemy classes lack feedback, hierarchy, and are a chore to fight / memory constraints created a disappearing weapon problem.
NullPointer
Member
I think those population numbers are cherry picked to show the worst as they are never anywhere near that low when I play (8-10pm PST). And at least from my anecdotal perspective many players I know just don't get what makes Halo tick (how to properly change things up for Halo's shields and sandbox), still can't get that in a few matches, and go back to COD where its comfy and warm, with small levels and SMGs. Its a game with some stiff competition.
And they made Reclaimer, which to me is the worst Halo level in the history of ever, even though I'm sure it seemed great on paper. Composer on the other hand is the real star of the Halo 4 campaign for me. Its hit or miss really, with some of the best encounters to be found in Spartan Ops, which is kind of surprising.
JohnOfMars
Banned
Agreed here.
It's not just Multiplayer features that were lost. Things like Campaign and "Firefight/SpOps" Theatre are big omissions for me. And the replacement of Firefight with the travesty that is Spartan Ops.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
RIP Halo
Blue Ninja
Member
1) You're quoting something that has no connection to your point
2) I'm not sure I have ever said I want the game tailored to my own interests. For years the things myself and others have requested would benefit nearly every person who plays the game. Hell I include like 6 wildly different communities in that post alone. What you fail to grock is that I don't play MLG, I'm not an ultra competitive unemployed 17 year old. When I want customizable controls, or more display options, or a better framerate, or want better Forge for map designers, or want a more intuitive matchmaking lobby, or want to be able to share cool moments with my friends like old times, these are not requests that benefit only myself or only HaloGAF. They improve the game for everybody.
Yes if all the people who I enjoy playing Halo with stop playing Halo. I'm pretty close now after Halo 4. juices, devo, tawpgun, tunavi, Ken, thermite, ram, trasher, capt blood, overdoz, plywood, booties, free, all my friends from somethingawful, all the other long-time halogaffers like metroidvania, eazy, vhfive, backflip, etc. Everyone stopped playing. Removing Squad Slayer for no reason got rid of half of them, Halo 4 got the rest. I didn't play Oddball Swordbase because it was fun to play alone, I played it because it was an excuse to bullshit and goof around with cool people. That's the only reason I play Halo. 343 is chasing a market they'll never get at the cost of killing off parts of their fanbase.
I like this comment. Salty or not, it certainly seems to be true at the moment.
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