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[CyReN]

Isn't XboxSupport1 a fake account? Xbox Support is @XboxSupport (https://twitter.com/XboxSupport)

They have multiple accounts, from their twitter background.

I keep on meaning to give it a shot again. I didn't like it much back when HaloGAF first got into it, but I've heard there's been a lot of improvements.

Murder Miner devs have been following the Treyarch/Riot strategy of listening to their customers, they added an aim acceleration toggle I believe too.

edit: Yep they did, "sliders for aim acceleration/red reticle sensitivity/aim assist"

 

[Tawpgun]

Why bother making another Halo when we still have Halo 1 and Halo 2 on PC? Those are the real halo experiences, any other dev taking up the task would just be different, just like what we're seeing with 343. There's no reason to stagnate on iterating that when you can innovate in an entirely different direction.



The poster child of absolutely fantastic dev/community relations at the moment are the guys behind Natural Selection 2. The original game was a mod many years ago and has now been made into an extremely successful retail game, and the best part: most of the content in the game is made by the community that plays it, and it's open source

Then there's SOE, making what must be the only AAA game that isn't sequel bait, Planetside 2, and it's designed as a LTE game to run and evolve into wholly new experiences over many, many years. Most of the core gameplay was playtested and redesigned several times over the course of a several month long beta, and the game is no where close to being done now that it's been "released." It's everything I've ever wanted in a game (basically all the cool shit that happens in the Halo universe, but actually player directed and controlled), and it's completely player controlled. SOE is just continually pushing out content to expand what is possible for players to do. And it's F2P.

The devs for this game are constantly online in forums, reddit, twitter, and livestreaming the game regularly. Communicating with the people who play the game and engaging in real discussions.

Yeah that's what I thought. Only PC games have that absurd amount of support. Mainly because patching/fixing them is so easy.

Don't have a good PC so I guess I'll put up with Halo 4 for now.

PS How is the netcode on Halo 2 Vista? Halo CE netcode is terribad.

 

[TheOddOne]

Just got:

Score the killing blow on a Mantis.

Pretty funny chievo, wasn't even trying.

 

[Killer]

I'm surprised so much of the old guard has put up with this shit. I pop in here occasionally to check up on HaloGAF, but every time I do I'm reminded of 343's absolutely abysmal community relations. They're silent on everything and give no indication as to what's happening inside their studio. Why don't you guys move on to something else? 343's Halo is moving in a different direction that what nearly any vet wants while there are other developers out there providing fantastic experiences spawned directly from their communities and not some contrived internal vision.

Isn't Respawn making something similar to Halo? It will be interesting to see what they come up with.

 

[Franklinator]

I really hope a developer comes along and just basically steals the classic halo gameplay - there is a lot of money to be made by a company who makes a really good classic halo clone.

I've been saying it for a while, but it's only a matter of time before someone does it. Of course, they won't hit Halo or CoD numbers, but there's definitely a big enough market for someone to be successful making a classic arena game.

 

[Tunavi]

Too good

 

[BlueScrote]

Just got:

Score the killing blow on a Mantis.

Pretty funny chievo, wasn't even trying.

Trying harder than anyone on my team, they try their best to ignore the mantis marauding around the base.

 

[willow ve]

I'm surprised so much of the old guard has put up with this shit. I pop in here occasionally to check up on HaloGAF, but every time I do I'm reminded of 343's absolutely abysmal community relations. They're silent on everything and give no indication as to what's happening inside their studio. Why don't you guys move on to something else? 343's Halo is moving in a different direction that what nearly any vet wants while there are other developers out there providing fantastic experiences spawned directly from their communities and not some contrived internal vision.

I'm not an old guard on HaloGAF, but I started playing video games as my main source of entertainment when Halo:CE was first released. I've been hooked to the series ever since. Halo 3 was the only reason I bought an Xbox 360.

That being said I'll be ditching Halo 4 in another week when the latest BF3 DLC becomes available for those of us without a premium account. I'll most likely, eventually, find my way back to this game. But for now a lot of the sandbox feels broken and unbalanced. For the next week the new DLC (hooray, free!) will hold my attention. In the end I have more fun playing BF3 at this point. Hopefully 343 can fix some of the larger issues with the game soon.

 

[Booties]

Just got:

Score the killing blow on a Mantis.

Pretty funny chievo, wasn't even trying.

Those are the best ones, but no one who makes achievements seems to understand that.

Too good

Woah, master chief wasn't really in reach. Immersion ruined. Go read a book you rube.

 

[Poker Face]

I really hope a developer comes along and just basically steals the classic halo gameplay - there is a lot of money to be made by a company who makes a really good classic halo clone.

I will purchase this.

 

[Hey You]

Xbox Support peeps wouldn't know if there were any discussions being made until they were told.

 

[Tunavi]

Woah, master chief wasn't really in reach. Immersion ruined. Go read a book you rube.

Okay fuckface, I'll read the Fall of Reach, which follows Master Chief on his adventures before arriving to halo.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

So, the maps are still free? And they still haven't talked about it, apologized for those who paid or anything of the sort?

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I don't like Shatter at all. =(
Harvest is OK, Wreckage is awesome.

I'd have taken a Chief Halo 4 helmet for the LE. Even though people make fun of the "cat helmet" it's still one of the coolest LE things I own. Not too big on statues anymore.

I have been saying this since the beginning, its the best way to handle LE's. Statues or something else of the sort, otherwise it turns into this digital nonsense which turns into a mess and it just sucks for all involved. Im not a fan of locking out armor, guns skins etc for LE's either, it just seems unfair, and plus how much is that really worth? I was hoping the Halo 4 LE had more of a physical presence, but alas it kind of sucked.. even the steelbook felt cheap.

 

[squidhands]

there's definitely a big enough market for someone to be successful making a classic arena game.

No there isn't, and certainly not on a console.

Unreal Tournament?
Quake?

These would be HUGE on the console now if the market demanded it. It doesn't, and we are now faced with what we have in Halo for the forseeable future.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

Okay fuckface, I'll read the Fall of Reach, which follows Master Chief on his adventures before arriving to halo.

Don't buy the hardcover. Due to a glitch with the publisher, you can get the trade paperback for free.

 

[Kuroyume]

Why would anyone who paid for the le be so mad? Didnt you pay so you could get all that other crap they packaged in the LE? The diaries and avatar junk.

 

[Homeboyd]

Just got:

Score the killing blow on a Mantis.

Pretty funny chievo, wasn't even trying.

Yeah I got that (along with a couple others) last night, and returned to find them relocked in a later session.

Eh

 

[Tunavi]

Don't buy the hardcover. Due to a glitch with the publisher, you can get the trade paperback for free.

FREE PRINTED READABLE CONTENT???

 

[Bregmann Roche]

FREE PRINTED READING CONTENT???

There were some trees that 343 couldn't save. Their sacrifice will not soon be forgotten.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Why would anyone who paid for the le be so mad? Didnt you pay so you could get all that other crap they packaged in the LE? The diaries and avatar junk.

Its all really shitty tbh. I was happy with the Reach diary, etc, but not this.

 

[Gazzawa]

FREE PRINTED READABLE CONTENT???

if u get the limited edition you have the safety of knowing u paid for it tho.
only an extra 30bucks

 

[Mayyhem]

just finished my last exam. going to dive into these new maps for the first time

if anyone wants to play, add me (Mayyhem), I get bored quick playing alone

 

[wwm0nkey]

I feel like the Kill Cams they have in Far Cry 3 would have been far better in Halo 4 than the CoD kill cams.

 

[Orochinagis]

Why would anyone who paid for the le be so mad? Didnt you pay so you could get all that other crap they packaged in the LE? The diaries and avatar junk.

The war pass (or the crimson map pack) and the spec unlocks is free for anyone who played the first two weeks, the diary is basically the Instruction manual, the avatar stuff is useless with the new interface. And dont forget the DLC issues locking your content before the recent fix.

I cant stop comparing this mess with GOW3 marketing.

 

[JB1981]

The global/random ordnance is STILL fucked up and doesn't work properly. How could something as basic as this not work properly? Am I correct in saying that Global Ordnance is supposed to appear on the HUD whenever it's available or it it just at the outset?

 

[Pop]

I'm surprised so much of the old guard has put up with this shit. I pop in here occasionally to check up on HaloGAF, but every time I do I'm reminded of 343's absolutely abysmal community relations. They're silent on everything and give no indication as to what's happening inside their studio. Why don't you guys move on to something else? 343's Halo is moving in a different direction that what nearly any vet wants while there are other developers out there providing fantastic experiences spawned directly from their communities and not some contrived internal vision.

Really sad but true

 

[Karl2177]

The global/random ordnance is STILL fucked up and doesn't work properly. How could something as basic as this not work properly? Am I correct in saying that Global Ordnance is supposed to appear on the HUD whenever it's available or it it just at the outset?

It only pops up on your HUD if you are within a certain proximity of it or if you are looking directly at it(like the snipers on Solace).

 

[Tunavi]

I really think the 3 maps should be officially free to make up for all the problems the launch had like File share, specializations, and infinity game-modes. Would be a nice gesture. And then give something free to the LE/season pass owners

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

I really think the 3 maps should be officially free to make up for all the problems the launch had. Would be a nice gesture. And then give something free to the LE/season pass owners

I'll take more tequila. *Looks at Frank*

 

[willow ve]

The war pass (or the crimson map pack) and the spec unlocks is free for anyone who played the first two weeks, the diary is basically the Instruction manual, the avatar stuff is useless with the new interface. And dont forget the DLC issues locking your content before the recent fix.

I cant stop comparing this mess with GOW3 marketing.

It only pops up on your HUD if you are within a certain proximity of it or if you are looking directly at it(like the snipers on Solace).

Although at the beginning of the match it appears for the entire map... on some maps. For instance NOTHING appears on Ragnarok at initial spawn. However on Shatter your HUD will be filled with white ordnance locators for the entire match (both snipers, needlers, saw, and rockets ... maybe more)

Are you sure? We have no way of verifying the intended design because the game behaves erratically.

Yep.

 

[HiredN00bs]

It only pops up on your HUD if you are within a certain proximity of it or if you are looking directly at it(like the snipers on Solace).

Are you sure? We have no way of verifying the intended design because the game behaves erratically.

Ugh, what a shit show.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

I really think the 3 maps should be officially free to make up for all the problems the launch had like File share, specializations, and infinity game-modes. Would be a nice gesture. And then give something free to the LE/season pass owners

I completely agree. They should be honest, say they screwed up, it wasn't their plan but then make em for free and then include another map pack for the season pass down the line.

 

[Fracas]

Even though it'd be a good solution, there's no way all the map packs become free. Wouldn't that just screw over LE and Map Pass owners even more?

 

[Karl2177]

Are you sure? We have no way of verifying the intended design because the game behaves erratically.

Ugh, what a shit show.

I've only dealt with initial ordnance, because I hate the idea behind random ordnance. That shit could be completely different for all I know.

 

[MrBig]

Yeah that's what I thought. Only PC games have that absurd amount of support. Mainly because patching/fixing them is so easy.

Don't have a good PC so I guess I'll put up with Halo 4 for now.

PS How is the netcode on Halo 2 Vista? Halo CE netcode is terribad.

It doesn't have to be confined to PC games, the problem is with the general consensus that a game has to be "done" when it's released. From that thought you see things like Microsoft's absurd tens (hundreds?) of thousand of dollars game update fee. Instead of consoles being a standardized platform for games they've become fortresses that make it extremely hard to do anything besides what the mass market expects, but the mass market expects whatever MS or whatever other giant advertises.

I don't know the state of PC Halo titles, I've moved on from Halo. I do know of some old friends that are still happily doing what they love, making content for Halo CE, though

 

[Tawpgun]

imo no point in fixing global ordnance hud glitches

imo best way to fix is to just introduce static drops

imo save halo

 

[Bregmann Roche]

if u get the limited edition you have the safety of knowing u paid for it tho.
only an extra 30bucks

Not available in Europe of course.

 

[CyReN]

Even though it'd be a good solution, there's no way all the map packs become free. Wouldn't that just screw over LE and Map Pass owners even more?

As a LE owner, give it out to everyone for free and I'll take the "bullet". Yea it sucks, but I honestly feel worse about the European Halo crowd with specializations, plus it would boost the dwindling population and make 343 look good to the majority of players.

A lot of their problems are common sense fixes, I just don't get it. 343 needs a PR person.

 

[willow ve]

As a LE owner, give it out to everyone for free and I'll take the "bullet". Yea it sucks, but I honestly feel worse about the European Halo crowd, plus it would boost the dwindling population and make 343 look good to the majority of players.

343 needs a PR person.

BS Angel and her rambling updates aren't cutting it for you?

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Even though it'd be a good solution, there's no way all the map packs become free. Wouldn't that just screw over LE and Map Pass owners even more?

Not "all" the map packs. Just this one. Then add another one on the end for LE/pass folk.

 

[CyReN]

BS Angel and her rambling updates aren't cutting it for you?

I don't know what BSangel can say and not say. So I can't blame her.

 

[senador]

As a LE owner, give it out to everyone for free and I'll take the "bullet". Yea it sucks, but I honestly feel worse about the European Halo crowd, plus it would boost the dwindling population and make 343 look good to the majority of players.

343 needs a PR person.

I'm disappointed, but what the fuck ever. I think I'd rather take the hit too and have everyone get them. That at least means they'll come up more. Do the same for the next 2 for all I care. I'd pay some more even if it means DLC shows up.

BS Angel and her rambling updates aren't cutting it for you?

You seem to be doing a lot of rambling as well.

 

[BlueScrote]

Yeah that's what I thought. Only PC games have that absurd amount of support. Mainly because patching/fixing them is so easy.

Don't have a good PC so I guess I'll put up with Halo 4 for now.

PS How is the netcode on Halo 2 Vista? Halo CE netcode is terribad.

Can anyone comment on this? I haven't even looked into buying H2 Vista because I thought the MP was dead/terrible.

 

[Gazzawa]

Not available in Europe of course.

we'll email u the last page!

 

[Pop]

imo no point in fixing global ordnance hud glitches

imo best way to fix is to just introduce static drops

imo save halo

How many people are going to be around for the ranks coming in Jan

Spoiler

haha waypoint

? I will come back and try them but at this point with all the shenanigans, my trust in them to come through with classic feel is gone.

 

[Rickenslacker]

Can anyone comment on this? I haven't even looked into buying H2 Vista because I thought the MP was dead/terrible.

I can't comment on the netcode because the online play is dead. Unless you like the one server hosting 24/7 Coagulation with BR and random secondary spawns.

 

[Bregmann Roche]

we'll email u the last page!

Consider it a gift!

If 343 is made up of people who came to the studio specifically to work on Halo, how many of those people wish they had applied for a job at Digital Extremes?

 

[Orochinagis]

Even though it'd be a good solution, there's no way all the map packs become free. Wouldn't that just screw over LE and Map Pass owners even more?

make a free map pack or the FOTUS for free....j/k

 

[enzo_gt]

More beautiful Halo 4 environmental art.

Few more after the jump. Lol @ portal gun.

 

[squidhands]

Not real sure what the random global ordnance was supposed to achieve. If it were to make the game more friendly to newer players, why not just introduce the HUD waypoint on the normal static drops? Seems like such a simple addition to the series that would have caused much fewer problems than what we have now. The introduction of random weapons on seemingly random timers is just bizarre and counters so much past Halo history of having map flow and combat directed by weapon/powerup locations.