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Halo |OT14| They call it Halo
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User 73706
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I don't know if any other halogaffers are even into it, but did anyone else get some major Homestuck Ancestor vibes when we saw The Lord of Admirals in the terminals? He was like a human E%ecutor Darkleer or something.
Please please please tell me the Forerunners use Promethean Cloud Storage and those guys are still safe. I would pay billions to get to see Lord of Admirals caught up to speed, dumped into a brain jar attached to a huge combat suit and see him wreck house.
Please please please tell me the Forerunners use Promethean Cloud Storage and those guys are still safe. I would pay billions to get to see Lord of Admirals caught up to speed, dumped into a brain jar attached to a huge combat suit and see him wreck house.
Hydranockz
Member
Poker Face
Member
Nope. Team Throwdown is a godsend. I played a game where 3 of my teammates quit out at the beginning of the game, and only lost by one point.
THANK YOU 343 FOR DOING THIS
Tha Robbertster
Member
Steelyuhas
Member
First game of Throwdown.
Already down a player in the lobby.
NOPE.GIF
Already down a player in the lobby.
NOPE.GIF
The Librarian
Banned
If you guys want a blank case sitting around for a year I made this.
(click on the link to download the pic)
That's awesome. Can that be the boxart? Please?
Edit: Hm, on second thought, I'd get rid of the Destiny symbol on the front cover.
Hydranockz
Member
Agreed.
If you guys want a blank case sitting around for a year I made this.
(click on the link to download the pic)
That's fucking gorgeous.
Amazing. Actually going to print that but could you try making one with this?
http://www.bungie.net/pubassets/674/destiny_desktop.jpg
Will attempt that.
Also got a new slightly fixed version up and an alt version
Just click on them again to download the image and go get them printed off if you want.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
Agree 100%, at some point at least for online population they need to admit failure. The playlists are still a mess, Team Throwdown is a mix of all kinds of objective types as well. Just Make a Team Slayer Ranked Classic playlist, HOW HARD IS THAT!
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
Huh? So by your logic that is at least 3 books. How the hell would you know which ones unless you read them all?
You don't think Fall Of Reach has any kind of canon influence on this game? I do. I don't know what the hell you are defending, they put a core part of the story in videos buried deep inside the Waypoint app. I mean c'mon.
At least this guy get's it.
Take my money!
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
343 is at least listening to those of you who want the more classic experience. Those settings are pretty nice.
I've read nearly all the books and I still didn't understand the Didact's motive, he acted more like a child and seemed a little out of character. Sure he was ruthless and cold, but he saw logic where it made sense. 343's version of Didact:
I don't think spoiler tags are necessary, but I'm going to add them anyway.
Inb4: Terrible usage of commas
"I don't think Humanity is ready to take on the Mantle, so rather than letting them attempt it and (maybe) failing, then coming back and helping them/picking up the pieces, I'm just going to try to completely oppress them, WHOOO!
Inb4: Terrible usage of commas
EagleBurnn
Banned
His character was just so shallow and there was nothing interesting about him. He was just your typical evil guy with an evil motive that doesn't have any sensible justification.
Talking about H4 Didact only.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
jip is not needed, there are only 5k people playing TTD. You have a lot of quitters because there are to many gametypes in there and if someone wants team slayer and KOTH gets picked they are going to quit.
User 73706
Banned
Given what the books told us it makes complete sense that the Didact's a ruthless, overcomplicated villain. 343 just told the wrong story despite them making it up.
To elaborate:
-Didact's wife is a space hippie and cares more about the enemy that's destroyed countless worlds than him.
-He meets a promising successor but ultimately gets betrayed by one of the most powerful figures of his race forcing him to burn out his "successor"'s collective consciousness and hijack his soul just to be able to survive.
-Meanwhile, while his old, pristine body is now completely open to Flood infection which means god knows what given he has the clearance to activate the entire fucking halo array with the push of a button.
-He finally has to kill his own god
-He's shot point blank in the chest twice with the most overpowered weapon in the series and then kept in isolation for a hundred thousand years, while his entire legacy is immolated all around him.
-The cherry on top is wiping the galaxy of all life only to find his wife's purported treachery managed to get his past enemies in the most powerful state they've ever been.
To elaborate:
-Didact's wife is a space hippie and cares more about the enemy that's destroyed countless worlds than him.
-He meets a promising successor but ultimately gets betrayed by one of the most powerful figures of his race forcing him to burn out his "successor"'s collective consciousness and hijack his soul just to be able to survive.
-Meanwhile, while his old, pristine body is now completely open to Flood infection which means god knows what given he has the clearance to activate the entire fucking halo array with the push of a button.
-He finally has to kill his own god
-He's shot point blank in the chest twice with the most overpowered weapon in the series and then kept in isolation for a hundred thousand years, while his entire legacy is immolated all around him.
-The cherry on top is wiping the galaxy of all life only to find his wife's purported treachery managed to get his past enemies in the most powerful state they've ever been.
The Librarian
Banned
You just butchered the use of parentheses. They are no longer a valid form of grammar.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Going to try to ignore the currfuffle as best I can and just offer my opinion:
Spartan Ops Episode 10 & Conclusion:
The opening cutscene was mediocre and not particularly interesting. Not caring about anyone but Halsey will do that. I'd hoped the Didact symbol showing up would have meant more.. :-/
2 player coop, on Heroic. I only played Chapter 3 & 5, being told they were the good ones.
Which they were.
Team Throwdown
They're getting there, it's an improvement.
-Don't show the SR if it's not an indication of skill, it makes your matchmaking look poorer than I'm guessing it is.
-Time to get rid of Sprint
-Increase weapon spawn timers
-Harshly, harshly punish quitters
Spartan Ops Episode 10 & Conclusion:
The opening cutscene was mediocre and not particularly interesting. Not caring about anyone but Halsey will do that. I'd hoped the Didact symbol showing up would have meant more.. :-/
2 player coop, on Heroic. I only played Chapter 3 & 5, being told they were the good ones.
Which they were.
Having A.I. members who didn't die instantly and behaved, at least in kills and endurance more like actual Spartan's was appreciated. Chapter 3, was enjoyable, because no one segment lasted too long. The lich boarding itself, once you grab the jetpacks was overly short if anything, and gunning for the exit made for a good enjoyable moment.
Chapter 5 was alright, although I bet it was a nightmare on Legendary as somehow 343 though bringing back loads of FRGs was a good idea. Someone in 343 must have a sick love for them, right? The rest of it was fine. The gameplay shift was very cool... except it didn't happen in combat for me. Which makes it kind of pointless.
Limiting the cool new thing to a non-combat segment.. gah.
So it ends on a good enough note. I hold to the idea that it should be 3 missions, of superior quality & cost, like I'm guessing these ones were.
The conclusion... gah. Gah. Ye couldn't even kill Palmer. I don't give a damn about any of the Sp Ops characters aside from Halsey and maybe Lasky.
And I'm left cold by the ending. People riot, I don't even feel enough either way about it.
I'd no expectations for 343 to make me happy at this stage.
I feel the same about SpOps as I do about Halo 4.
343 showed great potential with the opening cutscene of Halo 4 and have failed to live up to it since. I wanted to "Beli343" so much and admire so many people working there, it's a damn shame.
Dumb Questions I do want to ask:
What's Jul's relationship with the Didact right now? Is Halsey going to be trading snipes with the fucking Didact in future cutscenes? *smh*
Chapter 5 was alright, although I bet it was a nightmare on Legendary as somehow 343 though bringing back loads of FRGs was a good idea. Someone in 343 must have a sick love for them, right? The rest of it was fine. The gameplay shift was very cool... except it didn't happen in combat for me. Which makes it kind of pointless.
Limiting the cool new thing to a non-combat segment.. gah.
So it ends on a good enough note. I hold to the idea that it should be 3 missions, of superior quality & cost, like I'm guessing these ones were.
The conclusion... gah. Gah. Ye couldn't even kill Palmer. I don't give a damn about any of the Sp Ops characters aside from Halsey and maybe Lasky.
And I'm left cold by the ending. People riot, I don't even feel enough either way about it.
I'd no expectations for 343 to make me happy at this stage.
I feel the same about SpOps as I do about Halo 4.
343 showed great potential with the opening cutscene of Halo 4 and have failed to live up to it since. I wanted to "Beli343" so much and admire so many people working there, it's a damn shame.
Dumb Questions I do want to ask:
What's Jul's relationship with the Didact right now? Is Halsey going to be trading snipes with the fucking Didact in future cutscenes? *smh*
Team Throwdown
They're getting there, it's an improvement.
-Don't show the SR if it's not an indication of skill, it makes your matchmaking look poorer than I'm guessing it is.
-Time to get rid of Sprint
-Increase weapon spawn timers
-Harshly, harshly punish quitters
Finished SpOps.
What the fuck, man? So
Also the mission with the Lich was pretty good. The others were incredibly bland. It's like someone broke a Fuel Rod Gun Elite General pinata over every single mission. Who still thinks that's okay? Who's still alright with the heavily shielded enemy holding a weapon that kills instantly? Who's okay with putting more than half a dozen of those in to a single encounter and then having that encounter ten times?
EDIT: Well, on the upside,
What the fuck, man? So
the Artifact that you grabbed for Glassman was anchoring you in orbit the entire time? I thought we figured out that the Infinity was anchored a few episodes ago and stopped it then?
What the fuck is with Halsey defecting? I hate what 343's turned her in to, but honestly this was out of fucking nowhere. She was injured while being used as a human shield - in the arm, no less. A non-lethal hit if there ever was one. Why would she automatically assume that Majestic was trying to assassinate her (which of course Sarah Palmer was, but how would she be able to figure that out with one shot that appeared to be, by all accounts, a misfire?
What about John? What about all of the other S-IIs who just a few months ago she was willing to lie her life down for and kidnap to an entirely alien planet knowing in he heart of hearts that they were destined to lose the war with the Covenant? Did that single shot immediately take away all of her love for those kids? Did it make her so furious that she's willing to ally herself with the faction that holds all the same sentiments that those who killed her would-be husband and daughter? Did it make her so completely blind with rage that she would side with those who have burned thousands of planets, murdered billions of people, and killed many of the child soldiers she thought of as her own?
What the fuck 343?
What the fuck 343?
Also the mission with the Lich was pretty good. The others were incredibly bland. It's like someone broke a Fuel Rod Gun Elite General pinata over every single mission. Who still thinks that's okay? Who's still alright with the heavily shielded enemy holding a weapon that kills instantly? Who's okay with putting more than half a dozen of those in to a single encounter and then having that encounter ten times?
EDIT: Well, on the upside,
the Prometheans are dead, so we're never going to see them ever again.
User 73706
Banned
I CAN'T AFFORD BULLET POINTS IN THIS ECONOMY
Captain Blood
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xxjuicesxx
Member
"Saying that I'm extremely excited about the Team Throwdown playlist would be an understatement. I can personally attest to how much time, work and effort were put into these settings by the entire team, as well as the whole Halo community. These maps, game types and settings bring out a classic, competitive feel, and even provide room for the evolution of a strategic skill gap." - Eric "Ghostayame" Hewitt
I am excited to have a playlist that has the most competitive weapons, settings and maps that Halo 4 has to offer! - David Walshy Walsh
The first time I played these settings, I hit a quick scope to win a 49-49 standoff what else can you ask for in a competitive playlist? You may not be able to get the rush of a tournament every day, but with this new playlist, you can experience the best competitive settings Halo 4 offers. I like the Battle Rifle start, which adds a definitive skill gap. I personally can't wait to start dominating in Team Throwdown and get my level 50!" - Michael StrongSide Cavanaugh
I am excited to have a playlist that has the most competitive weapons, settings and maps that Halo 4 has to offer! - David Walshy Walsh
The first time I played these settings, I hit a quick scope to win a 49-49 standoff what else can you ask for in a competitive playlist? You may not be able to get the rush of a tournament every day, but with this new playlist, you can experience the best competitive settings Halo 4 offers. I like the Battle Rifle start, which adds a definitive skill gap. I personally can't wait to start dominating in Team Throwdown and get my level 50!" - Michael StrongSide Cavanaugh
bobs...onGaf
Member
That last weeks set of Sparton Ops episodes was great from a gameplay perspective, it was also the first time we really had a intro that led into the missions, a coherent story all the way through the weeks episodes, and a conclusion. If they did this through all the weeks worth of content it would have been a lot better.
Also had a lot of fun with the Liche mission, drove a fully loaded hog onto the thing and then bailed out leaving the marines on it, which was hilarious.
On a story level though, holy shit how terrible has the Halo writing been the last few years? Between Greg Bear/ Karen Traviss and whoever wrote Spartan Ops Halo is basically generic fluff from a story standpoint.
Also had a lot of fun with the Liche mission, drove a fully loaded hog onto the thing and then bailed out leaving the marines on it, which was hilarious.
On a story level though, holy shit how terrible has the Halo writing been the last few years? Between Greg Bear/ Karen Traviss and whoever wrote Spartan Ops Halo is basically generic fluff from a story standpoint.
Requiem just exploding, Halsey being a one armed evil scientist working with the enemy for revenge. I would cry if it wasn't so hilariously bad.
Just think about that Halo "event" next to the London Bridge and everything else will look immensely better
xxjuicesxx
Member
Yea you kind of need a motivation (rank) to ensure people play competitively and the whole way through. If people are getting donged on they will just leave...and go get a better MM game.
There already is a quitting ban if these people habitually quit.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
Karen Traviss' shitty writing wins again. Ruined Gears, Star Wars and now Halsey.
Brian Reed and Stu Aitken shouldn't be able to write anything for Halo anymore.
What the fuck? at least i know Destiny will have a decent story.
Brian Reed and Stu Aitken shouldn't be able to write anything for Halo anymore.
What the fuck? at least i know Destiny will have a decent story.
thezerofire
Banned
Sig is sloppy today
What ever happened to Nylund? Seriously?
Reagan's BR
Banned
Huh. No idea why they don't use that in MM.
Did you read the post I linked? The process of testing and implementing a MM game type does not last too terribly long.
You say that there is a protocol. Who does 343 have to answer to for MM changes other than themselves? My point is that 343 could return the game to classic settings but they have chosen not to because they think their vision of the game is good.
Asked this awhile ago but it really needs to be asked again and again.
I thought she did a good job with the Gears 3 Campaign.
I do miss him, though. Loved the diary for Reach.
Hydranockz
Member
I thought your point was that they are too lazy to take 15 minutes out of their day + testing time to roll out a proper playlist.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
Nylund was the best Halo writer.
the two guys that wrote Spartan Ops are shit, Karen Traviss ruins series. and 343 just lets this shit happen.
they dont really care about the story of Halo. they dont care about the Universe, the multiplayer, any of that.
this is what a great series has become. Generic gameplay and generic writing/storytelling.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I'm guessing Nylund doesn't want to be tied down to Halo. He obviously has done great stuff but clearly doesn't want to be "that guy".
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
True, but to take the stuff he has written an give it to Karen Traviss... Seriously? i'm at a loss for words.
First off, look at the population. If the game was intrinsically better or catered to more players, then the numbers would be better than they are. Hell they'd be better than what Reach's were in the first 6 months.
Second, don't say "something something something.... at the end of the month" as a counter to my argument. It only further proves my point.
Third, the majority population is in those gimmicky playlists because the people they want to play the game quit.
If you're going to be an asshole, at least be correct.
Reagan's BR
Banned
No, they could but they won't because they think everything is fine as is.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Yeah, they made huge improvements on so many levels in isn't even funny. I actually had fun with the second half of Sp Ops..
That said, it still has issues and did not live up to my expectations.. It doesn't really tough the highs of either SP or FF, and it needs a makeover in some departments. If a season 2 happens, I hope it plays out more like a SP expansion pack rather than the same formula we had in Sp Ops. A lot of the things David said were cut would go a long way to help.
I also want to be part of more than just a blank slate character/team. If a season 2 happens, give us some AI buddies with actual characters, and make them part of the CG.
It seriously feels like a poorly done fan fiction. 343 really, really fucked things up with the story. Dudebro-y Spartans, stereotype scientists, goofy dialogue and voice acting, cheesy, over the top dudebro-y plot. Blah. Lasky and Roland were the only good characters, and even Roland should be dialed back a bit.
The new Spartans suck. They lack the charm of ODSTs or the efficiencies of Spartan 2's.. They feel like some sort of GI Joe cartoon rather than Halo. Blah. I just don't fucking like what 343 did at all. Its really bad. They have talented people there, no doubt, but they went in the wrong fucking direction.
343 really has damaged the Halo story/universe. It really has taken a fucking cheesy, generic nose dive. Its a shame, because their idea if making all the expanded fiction count is great, but their execution.. ugh.
I feel like 343 has tried to replace everything in Halo with thier own version while devaluing and sweeping the old version under the rug. Cool Spartans! Big ships! Bigger guns! Meaner Covenant! Monster-like forerunner tech! And they did this on the gameplay side of things also.
And they fucking devalued the end of Halo 3, because the Covenant as far as I can tell still are at war with us and nothing has changed. Its just... ugh.